2,156 Destroyer_KuroshioKai WoWS Community Contributors 3,466 posts 13,652 battles Report post #1 Posted January 31, 2020 On top of the recent gun DPM buff the ship received a main battery firing angle buff. I have felt the only thing ever holding this ship back was being a one off and most players would not have a 19 point captain. The ship was so so at 12 points, solid at 15 points, and by 18 points (where I added DE) a damage farming machine. This ship just prints Witherer and Arsonist flags, a feature not always discussed with premium ships. I keep ships around that will help keep me in combat signals, and Blyskawica is a favorite of mine. I know there is a lot of people on the forums thinking that OWSF nerf killed the boat. I wasnt one of them, but what do you guys think now? Have WG fixed the issue for you? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,816 [1984] monpetitloup Members 4,480 posts 21,506 battles Report post #2 Posted January 31, 2020 I picked her up during the snowflake extravaganza. Only taken her in coop because only have a 10pt captain and am focusing other lines at the moment. Seemed ok, but not sure if dpm is in line with mahans, german dd (those darn numbers, never remember which), and brit dd at tier 7, not to mention tier 8-9 dds in her mm spread... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,156 Destroyer_KuroshioKai WoWS Community Contributors 3,466 posts 13,652 battles Report post #3 Posted January 31, 2020 5 hours ago, monpetitloup said: I picked her up during the snowflake extravaganza. Only taken her in coop because only have a 10pt captain and am focusing other lines at the moment. Seemed ok, but not sure if dpm is in line with mahans, german dd (those darn numbers, never remember which), and brit dd at tier 7, not to mention tier 8-9 dds in her mm spread... Wait till you can have both BFT and SE at 13 points before judging her. That’s when I really started to feel her potential. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,146 [ARGSY] centarina Members 10,326 posts 16,093 battles Report post #4 Posted January 31, 2020 I picked it up for coal and only have few match as I am grinding captain (friesland captain at 13 point) still very strong bote IMHO even before the buff. probably one of stronger t7 DD. torps reload fast and guns are strong. not sure why people do poorly with it. I do have SE, but not BFT yet have DE though. :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,349 [S0L0] iRA6E [S0L0] Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters 4,742 posts 7,281 battles Report post #5 Posted January 31, 2020 I really need t start playing this one more... Can't bring myself to start captain training and always seems to be something else going on. I've only played it a couple of times pre-buff and the concealment was a real struggle? I'm going to give it a try again after watching... Though, I can farm Witherer or Arsonist far faster in Ark Royal or Indomitable I expect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
21 [SALVO] ORPBury Members 57 posts 14,579 battles Report post #6 Posted January 31, 2020 Błyskawica is, due to my heritage, the ship I wanted ever since I started the game. Since I got her, I’ve done poorly in her. It’s time I started working on improving my abysmal WR it this beautiful ship. Ever since I’ve started to watch your videos, my DD gameplay improved dramatically. So there, many thanks Kuro! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
145 [CAG-1] BenAubrey Members 216 posts 12,781 battles Report post #7 Posted January 31, 2020 Playing Co-ops as I grind the captain...just got BFT.....seems to help a good bit....and the torp angles seem much better. Still don't know how the AA will do....haven't had ONE CV battle yet since the buff/upgrade.....lol....when ya want a CV in the mix...can't find one! Guns not as fast as Mahan...but better torp reload by far. Guns on par with Ganja...better torp reload by far....and can torp DDs.... Anyone's thoughts on the AA in randoms would be appreciated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,769 [WOLF2] HazardDrake Beta Testers 6,725 posts 13,009 battles Report post #8 Posted January 31, 2020 A whole bunch of ships have yet to be adequately compensated for OWSF removal. This buff certainly helps, but still doesn’t overcome the post 6.3 game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,816 [1984] monpetitloup Members 4,480 posts 21,506 battles Report post #9 Posted January 31, 2020 3 hours ago, Destroyer_KuroshioKai said: Wait till you can have both BFT and SE at 13 points before judging her. That’s when I really started to feel her potential. I think you’re right but I already have bft. PT, LS, BFT, CE, maybe AR I might have boosted capt to 12pts. Do you have a recommended build? Sorry if you mention in video, haven’t been able to watch it yet ;-) general question, do you run aft on your dds? Since the nerf i dont run it since it boosts detection. Would you consider it on bly? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
111 [WOLF4] Tim__2016 Members 394 posts 17,281 battles Report post #10 Posted January 31, 2020 I have not played the ships recently. I have always liked the Blys. I have always thought a small drop in concealment would make this ships much more competitive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,533 [S-N-D] _Caliph_ Banned 3,327 posts 7,738 battles Report post #11 Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) 23 hours ago, monpetitloup said: I think you’re right but I already have bft. PT, LS, BFT, CE, maybe AR I might have boosted capt to 12pts. Do you have a recommended build? Sorry if you mention in video, haven’t been able to watch it yet ;-) general question, do you run aft on your dds? Since the nerf i dont run it since it boosts detection. Would you consider it on bly? Priority Target, Preventive Maintenance, Expert Marksman, Last Stand, Survivability Expert, Basic Firing Training, Demolition Expert, Concealment Expert. BFT, LS, PM would be 14-19 skill points in that order. I suppose you could swap BFT for Demo Expert if you preferred it. One thing about Blys and any DD to be honest is not completely neglecting AP rounds against CAs that you happen to get in broadside with. In desperate situations you can punish them if they think all you can do is burn them. AFT is decent for high ROF agile ships but Blys lacks the agility to really use it well, in my opinion. Her ROF is a little low too. Lo Yang and Anshan as example are two cases where harassing people out at long range is fun. If you did go with AFT your only option is giving up concealment expert which isn't impossible to do as she has terrible stealth anyway. You will get the extended range albeit less accurate long range shots but slightly better accuracy in closer range. I'd rather have the stealth on her though. Edited February 1, 2020 by _Caliph_ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,769 [WOLF2] HazardDrake Beta Testers 6,725 posts 13,009 battles Report post #12 Posted January 31, 2020 53 minutes ago, monpetitloup said: general question, do you run aft on your dds? Since the nerf i dont run it since it boosts detection. Would you consider it on bly? I don’t run AFT on mine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
212 [WAP] Tibson Beta Testers 326 posts 11,182 battles Report post #13 Posted January 31, 2020 The AP has always seemed like hot garbage to me. Am I missing something? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,156 Destroyer_KuroshioKai WoWS Community Contributors 3,466 posts 13,652 battles Report post #14 Posted January 31, 2020 2 hours ago, ORPBury said: Błyskawica is, due to my heritage, the ship I wanted ever since I started the game. Since I got her, I’ve done poorly in her. It’s time I started working on improving my abysmal WR it this beautiful ship. Ever since I’ve started to watch your videos, my DD gameplay improved dramatically. So there, many thanks Kuro! If you would like PM me a replay of a Blyskawica game. I’ll send you a private commentary video that might help solve some problems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,156 Destroyer_KuroshioKai WoWS Community Contributors 3,466 posts 13,652 battles Report post #15 Posted January 31, 2020 1 hour ago, BenAubrey said: Playing Co-ops as I grind the captain...just got BFT.....seems to help a good bit....and the torp angles seem much better. Still don't know how the AA will do....haven't had ONE CV battle yet since the buff/upgrade.....lol....when ya want a CV in the mix...can't find one! Guns not as fast as Mahan...but better torp reload by far. Guns on par with Ganja...better torp reload by far....and can torp DDs.... Anyone's thoughts on the AA in randoms would be appreciated. The AA is trash tier. Use good positioning that I mention in my videos and it really cuts down the CV harassment though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,156 Destroyer_KuroshioKai WoWS Community Contributors 3,466 posts 13,652 battles Report post #16 Posted January 31, 2020 1 hour ago, monpetitloup said: I think you’re right but I already have bft. PT, LS, BFT, CE, maybe AR I might have boosted capt to 12pts. Do you have a recommended build? Sorry if you mention in video, haven’t been able to watch it yet ;-) general question, do you run aft on your dds? Since the nerf i dont run it since it boosts detection. Would you consider it on bly? Sorry I’m out of my office right now and can’t link my build. It is linked in the video description like all of my new videos are. I tend to not run AFT on my non-Russian DDs. There are some exceptions like Akatsuki where I gun spec it but in general I like smaller gun bloom, to the extent I will run stock GFCS on my TRB boats out ships that are inefficient at mass range like the USN DDs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,156 Destroyer_KuroshioKai WoWS Community Contributors 3,466 posts 13,652 battles Report post #17 Posted January 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Tim__2016 said: I have not played the ships recently. I have always liked the Blys. I have always thought a small drop in concealment would make this ships much more competitive. The problem with that is the HP pool combined with the speed (It’s pretty damn fast) and gun alpha. The ship hits like a truck. I think it suits good enough to play sort of like a Russian DD but with better torps. Sort out the event DDs support and dealing with the enemy DDs is easy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,156 Destroyer_KuroshioKai WoWS Community Contributors 3,466 posts 13,652 battles Report post #18 Posted January 31, 2020 21 minutes ago, Tibson said: The AP has always seemed like hot garbage to me. Am I missing something? It’s felt good to me as far as getting pen damage. Getting close enough for citadel hits is more rare. Try it out in the training room. I learn a lot by testing a new ships AP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,112 [TARK] Daniel_Allan_Clark Members 7,331 posts 2,839 battles Report post #19 Posted January 31, 2020 Im not very experienced at DD play (only up to tier 5 in any tech tree... ...and only a 3 point captain in Blys when i got her for coal. ...and i had fun in each match. Totally felt there was a lot of potential to do better in her too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
212 [WAP] Tibson Beta Testers 326 posts 11,182 battles Report post #20 Posted January 31, 2020 28 minutes ago, Destroyer_KuroshioKai said: It’s felt good to me as far as getting pen damage. Getting close enough for citadel hits is more rare. Try it out in the training room. I learn a lot by testing a new ships AP. You're of course right. That's the best way to know. My anecdotal experience was never good when I've tried it but that doesn't mean it is useless. Only that you need to understand where it's actually a good option. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,194 [DVYJC] RainbowFartingUnicorn Members 3,674 posts 8,784 battles Report post #21 Posted January 31, 2020 I really love Blyskawica, even if I can't fully explain why. I do have a 19-point commander that she shares with Friesland, although that commander is optimized for Friesland and therefore has no torpedo buffs, but Blyskawica is mostly a gunboat anyway. Plus the gorgeous 303 Squadron camo. I have appreciated the buffs and will take her out more often. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
154 [WOLFB] Saidalphon Members 439 posts 8,277 battles Report post #22 Posted January 31, 2020 Certainly love the Blyska, still working on getting that commander up to 19 points (currently at 15 or 16 i forget). I have been wondering though, how would a .2 conceal buff work on it, would taking it from 6.8km conceal to 6.6km be too much? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
325 Sou1forge Members 663 posts 5,969 battles Report post #23 Posted January 31, 2020 5 hours ago, Destroyer_KuroshioKai said: Wait till you can have both BFT and SE at 13 points before judging her. That’s when I really started to feel her potential. Counter point: needing a high skill commander for the ship to function isn't a pro when it comes to how good the ship is (barring edge cases such as IFHE ships). If you need a captain that outclasses the competition to compete, then that’s a bad sign. That said I’m not a Blyska hater. It’s my favorite tier 7 ship hands down. I’ve ran through two ranked sprints with her (pre buffs) and loved it. I never felt like I was playing down because of the ship I was in. For me, she is essentially a Russian gunboat, but comfier. The alpha over DPM game suits what I like to do, and as long as fires cooperate with me a bit I think I can handle all of the other ships in that bracket well. You have to outplay people to win engagements, but it’s tier 7. That’s usually not a difficult task, so I don’t miss whatever 15% efficiency I lose from not playing more “meta” ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
477 [-VT-] vikingno2 Members 1,025 posts 27,555 battles Report post #24 Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) The buff was nice but didn't really do much, they buffed the wrong thing. It's 6.8 conceal is the killer in this ship. Not saying it should be the most stealth they just should have lowered the gap some drop it to 6.5 or 6 .4 at tier 7 you will run into DDs that out spot you by a full kilometer or more. Edited January 31, 2020 by vikingno2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
174 [-BSK-] Groo_ Members 484 posts 20,864 battles Report post #25 Posted January 31, 2020 one of my first premiums, always have and always will love this little Polish boat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
