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Took out my tier 8 Fantasque for the first time since the nerf. Figured it would have a chance since it's spotting range remained the same. Was not a horrible game but DDs and light CAs were pretty much able to spot and dodge my torps at will. The 1.8 detection range has made them pretty sad as a weapon. Consider the Pan Asian boats that get torps that go 8 klicks. The are slower but very little detection. I think now I would rather have something like that than the crap I am launching now.  French DDs have pretty much vanished from randoms. That says a lot about the hammer of god that was lowered on them.  Sad.

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The game is centered around BBs and guns since 2017...

The WOWS identity of paper/rock/scissors is dead..

We shall adapt or move on...

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13 minutes ago, Navalpride33 said:

The game is centered around BBs and guns since 2017...

The WOWS identity of paper/rock/scissors is dead..

We shall adapt or move on...

Have you heard of our lord and saviour: carriers?

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If you use french dds for their torpedos, youre focusing on the wrong thing.

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2 minutes ago, mcgibe said:

Have you heard of our lord and saviour: carriers?

Oh yeah they where screwed rather then BUFFed since 2017...

In context, the game is centered around BBs.  Not CVs.

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6 minutes ago, Amgen said:

If you use french dds for their torpedos, youre focusing on the wrong thing.


This, they are gunboats and the torpedoes are only for targets of opportunity or the occasional ambush torpedoing.

 

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But they go 8km..... at 75 knots

 

I'll gladly give up .4 torpedo detection for 75 knot screamers.

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You want torpedo-based destroyers? You'll need to try a different line.

French dd's are gunboats first and foremost—use them like a Russian dd (the main tech line, not the sub-line).

 

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1 hour ago, Toxic_Potato said:

Wait-  There was a Nerf to the torpedoes?

The detection range of the torpedoes was increased?

 

tier 8 and up

but 75 knots....

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3 hours ago, handybilly said:

Took out my tier 8 Fantasque for the first time since the nerf. Figured it would have a chance since it's spotting range remained the same. Was not a horrible game but DDs and light CAs were pretty much able to spot and dodge my torps at will. The 1.8 detection range has made them pretty sad as a weapon. Consider the Pan Asian boats that get torps that go 8 klicks. The are slower but very little detection. I think now I would rather have something like that than the crap I am launching now.  French DDs have pretty much vanished from randoms. That says a lot about the hammer of god that was lowered on them.  Sad.

Nobody has tagged you directly yet but the general consensus seems to be French DDs are gunboats not torpboats.

If you're running them as torpboats you missed the point. Especially if you are trying to torp DDs in them in the 1st place when your guns can generally shoot most of them down in less time than it takes you to line-up/aim/launch the torps.

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Those torps are basically Shima F3 torps.

 

And Shima F3 torps aren't bad.

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La Fantasque torpedoes were not nerfed. They were already useless enough.

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47 minutes ago, Vekta408 said:

tier 8 and up

but 75 knots....

Great, so you can miss faster.

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46 minutes ago, HazardDrake said:

Great, so you can miss faster.

:Smile_teethhappy: *points*

 

People seem to still hit ships with IJN torps so  try more I guess

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It is the lack of smoke that makes me treat French DDs like the Simple Jacks of wows.

A DD without smoke?

It's insane, is what it is.

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5 hours ago, AlcatrazNC said:

Those torps are basically Shima F3 torps.

 

And Shima F3 torps aren't bad.

Yeah, they take some special techniques to use properly, but I generally prefer them on any IJN DD I can get them on. Admittedly, I work mostly in co-op these days, but seeing as bots know where your torps are the minute you drop them, it's often actually harder to hit bots than real people. It's part of why I've gotten extremely conservative with my torps and rarely drop them at ranges beyond 6-8 km anyway, as anything further away pretty much isn't going to hit the intended target.

And as for the OP, what's wrong with wooden rifles? Before the 1950's the average rifle was upwards of 60% wood (by volume, not so much weight) and wood can make for some darn beautiful rifles. :Smile_trollface:

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A small sampling of my personal collection, all three from the former Yugoslavia, including my much beloved M48 (at the bottom) that was factory refurbed to practically brand-new condition.

 

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7 hours ago, AlcatrazNC said:

Those torps are basically Shima F3 torps.

 

And Shima F3 torps aren't bad.

Yeah, but the Shima gets to enjoy 5.6km concealment to put them to better use.

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8 hours ago, Shadow_Storm419 said:

Only the t9 and t10 got nerfed. Fantasque torps remained the same. 

https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/general-news/update-090-british-cruisers/

You are incorrect. The Le Fantasque French torps have been reset to 1.8 km. They were 1.4 pre-patch. I know they did not mention it in the notes but it is the case. 

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8 hours ago, SkaerKrow said:

La Fantasque torpedoes were not nerfed. They were already useless enough.

Have to disagree, this was an amazing torpedo boat.  I would still play her if they had removed the rapid reload and left the torps the same.  She is still playable and can have success as her detection range was not fooled with unlike the other two. My complaint is that a really fun multidimensional boat is not pretty much a boring one dimensional boat.  Any nerf that makes a funbote into a mehbote is not a move in the right direction. French dds have pretty much disappeared from randoms. That pretty much says it all. Can't argue that they might have needed a nerf but this one is obviously wrong. 

I do enjoy fast torpedoes. I use the F3 on Japanese boats and like them. But I can't see any reason for boosting a ships torpedo speed and then giving it a very high detection range.  That just negates the advantage of speed. Just give them normal fish.  Fast fish will mess up inexperienced players as they do not know how to react and sometimes just blunder into them, but I am really more worried about fighting good players rather than knocking about noobs. 

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