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IFHE Henri relevant in 2020?

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Is IFHE Henri still useful in 2020 or did they nerf it into the ground? Would you recommend using the UU, Concealment, or Double Rudder? I find Concealment questionable due to constant firing.

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I actually agree with the acceleration nerf. But wish they'd give it its old DPM back.

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1 hour ago, Swadian said:

Is IFHE Henri still useful in 2020 or did they nerf it into the ground? Would you recommend using the UU, Concealment, or Double Rudder? I find Concealment questionable due to constant firing.

DPM wasn't changed, pen wasn't changed, only thing they screwed up was the acceleration. IFHE is still useful.

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well, the T9 and 10 RN CAs have the amount of HE pen that Henri would have if it runs IFHE baked into them stock, so ima say no

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 so now, you have to play HIV like a ship, not a tank.     lol.   just move on to hindy .    or smolensk  :D

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Henri is still a beast.

Yes the nerf hurt, I take a bit longer to reach full speed, oh no. You still melt Kurfursts and Kremlins, lolpen RN cruisers, and provide top tier flanking and harassment.

People saying to sell and claiming the ship's unplayable are overreacting.

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11 minutes ago, Junko_Zane said:

Henri is still a beast.

Yes the nerf hurt, I take a bit longer to reach full speed, oh no. You still melt Kurfursts and Kremlins, lolpen RN cruisers, and provide top tier flanking and harassment.

People saying to sell and claiming the ship's unplayable are overreacting.

Henri IV's maneuverability was key factor in her effectiveness. Sure she can still fire but now I see most have adapted to making her just another range modded CA that sits behind islands now and not a kiter like she was meant to be. TOTAL "Richard" move by WG, I guess it was to make the new British line CA's look better but that's just sprinkles on turds. 

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3 hours ago, Swadian said:

Is IFHE Henri still useful in 2020 or did they nerf it into the ground? Would you recommend using the UU, Concealment, or Double Rudder? I find Concealment questionable due to constant firing.

the first of many ships going to be nerfed to fit the new sub line in. henri and kleber were just the begining.

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1 hour ago, Botcha said:

Henri IV's maneuverability was key factor in her effectiveness. Sure she can still fire but now I see most have adapted to making her just another range modded CA that sits behind islands now and not a kiter like she was meant to be. TOTAL "Richard" move by WG, I guess it was to make the new British line CA's look better but that's just sprinkles on turds. 

Don't get me wrong, I don't think it was the right attribute to change if they wanted to nerf Henri (which it's debatable whether they needed to in the first place) but the amount of people throwing tantrums and claiming she's unplayable is just ridiculous.

I've had plenty of great games in her post-nerf. And I expect to have many more. If you feel it too much, just adjust your build. Work in propulsion mod and you barely feel it.

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As a BB main, I haven't noticed any difference. For me, it's all about doing damage and kiting away. Acceleration doesn't help if you never slow down and stay near max range anyway.

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2 hours ago, Junko_Zane said:

Don't get me wrong, I don't think it was the right attribute to change if they wanted to nerf Henri (which it's debatable whether they needed to in the first place) but the amount of people throwing tantrums and claiming she's unplayable is just ridiculous.

I've had plenty of great games in her post-nerf. And I expect to have many more. If you feel it too much, just adjust your build. Work in propulsion mod and you barely feel it.

yup, 100%

Henri is still a really good ship.

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HIV is on the "not relevant" list.

Not to be confused with being irrelevant.

 

The stronger T10 cruisers are Hindenburg, Yoshino, Stalingrad, Smolensk and Venezia.

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21 hours ago, MrDeaf said:

HIV is on the "not relevant" list.

Not to be confused with being irrelevant.

 

The stronger T10 cruisers are Hindenburg, Yoshino, Stalingrad, Smolensk and Venezia.

Yoshino? Isn't Yoshino the "mehbote" that no one wanted? And doesn't Venezia have poor DPM?

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15 minutes ago, Swadian said:

Yoshino? Isn't Yoshino the "mehbote" that no one wanted? And doesn't Venezia have poor DPM?

Now that HIV cannot throttle dodge, it's squishier than Yoshino with more HP and Venezia, which has troll armor.

For kiting, Yoshino is extremely strong.

Venezia has surprisingly good DPM in higher tiers, where everything is extremely obese and easy to nail.

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On 1/16/2020 at 9:23 PM, Junko_Zane said:

Henri is still a beast.

Yes the nerf hurt, I take a bit longer to reach full speed, oh no. You still melt Kurfursts and Kremlins, lolpen RN cruisers, and provide top tier flanking and harassment.

People saying to sell and claiming the ship's unplayable are overreacting.

A bit??  Who is not being realistic now?  It's by far the worst accelerating high tier cruiser there is.  I bet Georgia could beat it in a 0-35 race. 

Yes it can still set things on fire, but when those things shoot back, they are much more likely to hit it.  If you take evasive action, it takes so long to regain the speed it is the same thing as a speed nerf. 

Is Henri playable... yeah sure... is it still good... I don't really think so. 

I'm not selling it, with the hope that eventually they will undo some of it, but it the mean time I've stripped the boat and reassigned the captain.

 

I don't expect to see many at all in the next CB season.  If I do, then I'll maybe admit I'm wrong, but I really doubt it.

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