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When "Permanent" Cammo is taken away by WarGaming

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Situation: 

  • I obtained the Gorgon permanent Cammo by playing countless Halloween battles.  This was for Shokaku CV, I had not researched the Sokaku
  • The CV rebalance came and the offer to turn in your Premium CV's,  I took up WG on its Offer (I still did not research or own the Shokaku)
  • Fast forward to today, I research the Shokaku   No Permanent Cammo wth?
  • Support Ticket to WG hey where is my Cammo dude? 
    • WG Reply:  You SOLD it. 
    • My Reply:  No I did not , Im like, how can one sell "Permanent Cammo",
    • WG Reply you sold Shokaku, we gave you 5K doubloons
    • My Reply:  Never owned Shokaku, take 5k doubloons from my account and please restore
    • WG Reply: You sold other CVs so, we cant restore 
    • My Reply: Please escalate never sold Shokaku never owned it until now
    • WG Reply: No cant be done

It is like I am being penalized for having taken up WG for their offer to buy back Premiums because they changed them,  HEY WG I paid $ you gave me doubloons in return.

Funny thing now is I have all of those premium CV's back, and enjoy playing CV's and I would actually buy the current one but WTH?   When does selling one ship affect another?  When is permanent cammo NOT permanent.

WG support refuses to escalate, its not like I am a bad customer, I have spent THOUSANDS on this game.  (ok so call me foolish)

Am I being treated fairly?

 

 

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If you never researched or owned it, why does your wows-numbers profile show three games played in RTS Shokaku?

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7 minutes ago, HooplaJones said:

Am I being treated fairly?

Yes, you are.

When you sold your RTS carriers at rework launch, you were telling WG "I don't want any of these any more; take them and everything to do with them."

That's who the trade-in was for - people who knew WITH CERTAINTY that they never wanted to play carriers again.

Now you have seller's remorse. 

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2 minutes ago, Edgecase said:

If you never researched or owned it, why does your wows-numbers profile show three games played in RTS Shokaku?

I recently researched it that is why I was asking for the permanent cammo I earned.

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2 minutes ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

Yes, you are.

When you sold your RTS carriers at rework launch, you were telling WG "I don't want any of these any more; take them and everything to do with them."

That's who the trade-in was for - people who knew WITH CERTAINTY that they never wanted to play carriers again.

Now you have seller's remorse. 

If I sell a North Carolina, are you going to take away my cammo from my Bismark?

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3 minutes ago, Edgecase said:

If you never researched or owned it, why does your wows-numbers profile show three games played in RTS Shokaku?

LOL.

 

From the WOWS Players index:

 image.thumb.png.2657ceb49c6c11d3f517b6bc1da9c405.png

 

Now, OP, let's talk about you never having owned the RTS Shokaku.

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1 minute ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

LOL.

 

From the WOWS Players index:

 image.thumb.png.2657ceb49c6c11d3f517b6bc1da9c405.png

 

Now, OP, let's talk about you never having owned the RTS Shokaku.

That is the NEW Shokaku not old....LOL  

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3 minutes ago, HooplaJones said:

If I sell a North Carolina, are you going to take away my cammo from my Bismark?

Of course not.

 

You sold your North Carolina, and thus everything that was attached to it. Why would they remove the camo from Bismarck?

 

You sold your RTS Shokaku with 3 games played on it, thus what was attached got removed as well.

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2 minutes ago, HooplaJones said:

That is the NEW Shokaku not old....LOL  

No. That is the Old Shokaku. Shokaku < 23.01.2019  is the RTS version that went out when the rework dropped.

You owned the Old Shokaku.

This is your new Shokaku:

image.thumb.png.67b95b2e81ecbd4da672c775873f7171.png 

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WG didn't take your camo.  You sold it back to them.

Edit: See Fem's post above.

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4 minutes ago, HooplaJones said:

That is the NEW Shokaku not old....LOL  

Negative.

The indicator for prior to the CV rework denotes the old ship.   A current ship has no such denotation.

 

cvs.jpg.6bd5917e390104807d497dd6c9e362bb.jpg 

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3 minutes ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

No. That is the Old Shokaku. Shokaku < 23.01.2019  is the RTS version that went out when the rework dropped.

You owned the Old Shokaku.

This is your new Shokaku:

image.thumb.png.67b95b2e81ecbd4da672c775873f7171.png 

WoWs-Numbers show the same:  2 different Shokaku

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Just to put a cap on it, OP, here are BOTH your Shokakus on the same page.

image.thumb.png.2cc970854720af31f369bfa726a81455.png

I really think it's time for you to just back down, admit your memory was flawed, and leave it at that.

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22 minutes ago, HooplaJones said:

(ok so call me foolish

Yup.

Read the fine print. It's important when dealing with WarGaming (or any business, for that matter).

Take your loss and learn from it.

 

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2 minutes ago, Daniel_Allan_Clark said:

Yup.

Read the fine print. It's important when dealing with WarGaming (or any business, for that matter).

Take your loss and learn from it.

 

There was no loss, WG bought it back (in doubloons).

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1 minute ago, Burnsy said:

There was no loss, WG bought it back (in doubloons).

He is feeling a loss...it may not be justified...but the feelings still exist.

All I'm saying is that he should take those feelings as motivation to behave differently next time.

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23 minutes ago, HooplaJones said:

I recently researched it that is why I was asking for the permanent cammo I earned.

Re-read what he said. You played RTS shokaku, which means you researched and owned the Shokaku. When rework came you turned it in along with anything to do with it, including that camo. It was in the clearly bullet pointed list of what will happen if you participated in that offer. This 100% on you, not WG.

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I take it you got something good with the doubloons or if you still have them, you can buy the camo back, easy peasy. WG is right.

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21 minutes ago, Sovereigndawg said:

I take it you got something good with the doubloons or if you still have them, you can buy the camo back, easy peasy. WG is right.

I offered that they said Nyet, live and learn.   One thing for certain the shills have been revealed.

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1 minute ago, HooplaJones said:

I offered that they said Nyet, live and learn.   One thing for certain the shills have been revealed.

You can't buy it back, that does suck.

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14 minutes ago, HooplaJones said:

I offered that they said Nyet, live and learn.   One thing for certain the shills have been revealed.

It was a one time, irreversible offer from WG.  They were very clear on that.

Recanting what an offer was, doesn't make someone a shill.  That simply was the offer that you agreed to.

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8 minutes ago, HooplaJones said:

One thing for certain the shills have been revealed.

Shills? You were caught in a blatant lie. You escalated it beyond an honest lapse of memory when you doubled down on it after being called out.

An honest reply would have been to go look at your player profile, realise that you HAD in fact owned and played RTS Shokaku and then say to yourself (when refused by WG) "I owned RTS Shokaku? Oh cr*p, so I did. Damn." And it need never have made its way here.

They gave us a whole patch to turn in our even-tier RTS carriers, a whole patch in which we could look carefully at the conditions of doing so. You took advantage of that, and WG fulfilled its part of the conditions.

Now we can argue until we're blue in the face as to whether the permacamos should have been converted to doubloons or dismounted to inventory against future need, but conversion to doubloons was what WG undertook to do, and you had a whole patch to read carefully and be sure of what you really wanted to do.

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1 hour ago, HooplaJones said:

I offered that they said Nyet, live and learn.   One thing for certain the shills have been revealed.

The only thing that’s been revealed here is your dishonesty and poor reading comprehension. 

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