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NOTE: Premiums ships are a rare drop. You may buy/earn many containers and not get a premium ship. Only buy containers if you are happy with the least of the rewards in the container.

 

 

Santa Gift Containers

The rules for ships from containers has changed this year. If you have all the ships on the list, getting doubloons for a duplicate ship will only happen in a special case detailed below.

NOTE: Premiums ships are a rare drop. You may buy/earn many containers and not get a premium ship. Only buy containers if you are happy with the least of the rewards in the container.

There are three types of Santa containers and you can get them for free from T10 Snowflakes, Directives, the Ship Building Collection, Daily Shipments, the Armory, the Victory Container Ship, and Dockyard Phase rewards. Santa gift containers will likely be sold from the Premium shop, but we do not know pricing at this time. The 1 from 86 in the pictures in the spoiler almost certainly comes from the fact that there are 86 ships on the premium ship list. If your Cmdr slots are full, a Cmdr slot will be provided.

 

$1 each or 8 for $7.49 ($0.94ea) or 20 for $17.99 ($0.90ea)

A Santa's Gift container drops one of the following rewards:
A Premium ship, port slot, and Commander with 10 skill points OR,
300 doubloons OR,
2,500 Coal OR,
10,000 Free XP OR,
30 days of Warships Premium Account OR,
4x New Year Streamer one-use camouflages OR,
4x Frosty Fir Tree one-use camouflages OR,
50x Zulu signals OR,
50x Papa Papa signals OR,
50x Zulu Hotel signals OR,
50x Equal Speed Charlie London signals


 

$3 each or 8 for $21.59 ($2.70ea) or 20 for $47.99 ($2.40ea)

A Santa's Big Gift container drops one of the following rewards: (Note, while this has a larger chance of a ship drop than a Gift container, the chance is still very small)
A Premium ship, port slot, and Commander with 10 skill points OR,
1,000 doubloons OR,
7,500 Coal OR,
90 days of Warships Premium Account OR,
12x New Year Streamer one-use camouflages OR,
12x Frosty Fir Tree one-use camouflages OR,
15x Dragon special signals OR,
15x Red Dragon special signals OR,
15x Wyvern special signals OR,
15x Hydra special signals OR,
15x Ouroboros special signals OR,
15x Basilisk special signals OR,
15x Scylla special signals OR,
15x Leviathan special signals

 


$5 each or 8 for $33.99 ($4.25ea) or 20 for $74.99 ($3.75ea)

A Santa's Mega Gift container drops one of the following rewards: (Note, while this has a larger chance of a ship drop than a the other Gift containers, the chance is still very small)
A Premium ship, port slot, and Commander with 10 skill points OR,
2,000 doubloons OR,
12,500 Coal OR,
180 days of Warships Premium Account OR,
20x New Year Streamer one-use camouflages OR,
20x Frosty Fir Tree one-use camouflages OR,
5x Mosaic one-use camouflages OR,
5x Asian Lantern one-use camouflages OR,
5x Spring Sky one-use camouflages OR,
30x Dragon special signals OR,
30x Red Dragon special signals OR,
30x Wyvern special signals OR,
30x Hydra special signals OR,
30x Ouroboros special signals OR,
30x Basilisk special signals OR,
30x Scylla special signals OR,
30x Leviathan special signals

 

NOTE: Premiums ships are a rare drop. You may buy/earn many containers and not get a premium ship. Only buy containers if you are happy with the least of the rewards in the container.

 

Rules of Compensation for premium ship drops
 - If a container drops a ship that is already in your Port, your New Year gift will be replaced with a supercontainer that will drop another ship from the list, a Port slot as well as a Commander with 10 skill points.
 - If you already have all the ships from the list in your Port, your Santa's container will drop a different reward out of those that can possibly drop from it.
 - If you didn’t immediately open your container, and prior to opening it you obtained a ship that could drop from the container, it’s possible for a duplicate ship to be dropped. If this occurs, you’ll receive compensation equal to the ship's cost in the form of doubloons, a Commander with 10 skill points, and a Port slot.

Note: This third rule is the only way to get doubloons for a duplicate ship drop this Christmas. I do not recommend trying to force doubloons, but if you do ok.

Here is what can happen for the second rule. I have all the ships except Georgia and Freisland. IF I earn/buy containers and get Georgia & Freisland ship drops, every container earned/bought after that would roll something other than a ship on the list.

Here is what can happen for the first rule. I have all the ships except Georgia and Freisland. I earn/buy a container and it rolls Atlanta. I have Atlanta already, so it gives a supercontainer and rolls either Georgia or Freisland. So if you get a ship in a Santa box, it was rolled directly. If you get a ship in a supercontainer, it was a duplicate and the ship is re-rolled for another ship you don't have.

 

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Santa crates ship list

IJN = Japan, US = United States of America, RU = Russia, KM = Germany, UK = United Kingdom, Fr = France, PA = Pan-Asia, Itl = Italy, Pan-Am = Pan-American, Pan-EU = Europe, DD = Destroyer, CL = light cruiser (155mm or less guns), CA = heavy/super cruiser 156mm+ guns, BB = battleship, CV = aircraft carrier

IV RU BB Imperator Nikolai I
V RU DD Gremyashchy
V IJN DD Kamikaze (clone of Kamikaze R)
V IJN DD Fūjin (clone of Kamikaze R)
V Itl BB Giulio Cesare
VII UK CL Belfast
VIII RU CL Mikhail Kutuzov
VIII US CV Enterprise
IX US BB Missouri
IX IJN BB Musashi
IX RU CA Kronshtadt
IX US DD Benham
IX US BB Georgia
IX FR BB Jean Bart
IX US CA Alaska
IX US CA Azuma
IX Pan-EU DD Friesland (no torps)
VIII KM CV Graf Zeppelin
VIII Itl BB Roma
VIII UK BB Vanguard
VIII IJN BB Kii (has torps)
VIII US BB Massachusetts
VIII KM BB Tirpitz (has torps)
VIII FR BB Gascogne
VIII US BB Alabama
VIII PA CL Irian (Kutozov variant)
VIII US CA Wichita
VIII RU BB Lenin
VIII US CV Saipan
VIII IJN CV Kaga
VIII KM CA Prinz Eugen (Hipper variant w/heal)
VIII FR CL Bayard
VIII IJN CA Atago (similar to 203mm Mogami)
VIII UK DD Cossack
VIII FR DD Le Terrible
VIII IJN DD Asashio (deep water torps only hit BB/CV)
VIII US DD Kidd
VIII PA DD Loyang (normal torps)
VII UK BB Nelson
VII UK BB Duke of York
VII UK BB Hood
VII KM BB Scharnhorst (has torps)
VII IJN BB Ashitaka
VII US CL Atlanta
VII Itl CL Duca degli Abruzzi
VII Pan-Am CL Nueve de Julio (Boise clone)
VII US CL Boise (Nueve de Julio clone)
VII RU CL Lazo
VII US CA Indianapolis
VII IJN DD Yūdachi
VII KM DD Z-39
VII Commonwealth DD Haida
VII RU DD Leningrad
VII US DD Sims
VII Pan-EU DD Błyskawica
VI US BB Arizona
VI IJN BB Mutsu (has torps)
VI US BB W. Virginia 1941
VI KM BB Prinz Eitel Friedrich
VI UK BB Warspite
VI UK CV Ark Royal
VI Itl CL Duca d'Aosta
VI FR CL De Grasse
VI KM DD T-61
VI FR BB Dunkerque
VI PA CL Huanghe
VI Commonwealth CL Perth
VI KM CA Admiral Graf Spee
VI FR DD Aigle
VI US DD Monaghan
VI RU CL Molotov
VI UK DD Gallant
VI PA DD Anshan (normal torps)
V RU BB Oktyabrskaya Revolutsiya
V Pan-EU BB Viribus Unitis
V Itl CA Genova
V US BB Texas
V UK CA Exeter
V IJN CL Yahagi
V US CL Marblehead Lima (Marblehead clone, Omaha variant)
V US CL Marblehead (Omaha variant)
V RU CL Murmansk (Omaha variant)
V RU CL Krasny Krym
V US DD Hill
V FR DD Siroco
V RU DD Okhotnik

From the article, this is the same list as above
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Pics of the Santa crates

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NOTE: Premiums ships are a rare drop. You may buy/earn many containers and not get a premium ship. Only buy containers if you are happy with the least of the rewards in the container.

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7 minutes ago, ClassicLib said:

Tilting at windmills, tilting at windmills my friend...

Every time someone complains, copy/paste this thread. 

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The whole reason this gambling mechanic is used is because it works on people sadly.  People can't resist the thrill of possibly getting something for cheap.  They end up spending more than if they had merely bought what they wanted.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Kizarvexis said:

Every time someone complains, copy/paste this thread. 

I guess I’d have to care

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While the rates I'm fairly certain grow smaller with each passing year to boot, has anybody managed to get any idea of just how low we are talking for at least the mega boxes?  5%?  3%?  1%?

Amusing how even China of all countries cares enough to protect its people to mandate that games divulge lootbox rates but here in late-stage capitalist West, we aren't even allowed to have this information. 

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3 minutes ago, Kizarvexis said:

Every time someone complains, copy/paste this thread. 

The thread says "PSA Santa crate ship drop rates are very small" … 

I see large red letters and many caveats saying "don't complain", yet nowhere do you actually say what the drop rates are … 

Do you see the problem with this post?

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1 minute ago, Commander_367 said:

Do you see the problem with this post?

Yes I do. Can you guess what it is?

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4 minutes ago, CaliburxZero said:

While the rates I'm fairly certain grow smaller with each passing year to boot, has anybody managed to get any idea of just how low we are talking for at least the mega boxes?  5%?  3%?  1%?

Amusing how even China of all countries cares enough to protect its people to mandate that games divulge lootbox rates but here in late-stage capitalist West, we aren't even allowed to have this information. 

Exactly this ^

Nobody knows and WG will not publish those numbers

 

Interestingly, console game developers will be required to publish odds for loot boxes in 2020 

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5 minutes ago, 0NutsNBolts0 said:

The whole reason this gambling mechanic is used is because it works on people sadly.  People can't resist the thrill of possibly getting something for cheap.  They end up spending more than if they had merely bought what they wanted.

There are other things in the boxes that some will value as worth the price. Others will not. Only you can decide if the value is worth it.

 

4 minutes ago, ClassicLib said:

I guess I’d have to care

:Smile_teethhappy:

 

1 minute ago, CaliburxZero said:

While the rates I'm fairly certain grow smaller with each passing year to boot, has anybody managed to get any idea of just how low we are talking for at least the mega boxes?  5%?  3%?  1%?

Amusing how even China of all countries cares enough to protect its people to mandate that games divulge lootbox rates but here in late-stage capitalist West, we aren't even allowed to have this information. 

No, WG has not and will likely will not state the odds unless forced to.

 

Just now, Commander_367 said:

The thread says "PSA Santa crate ship drop rates are very small" … 

I see large red letters and many caveats saying "don't complain", yet nowhere do you actually say what the drop rates are … 

Do you see the problem with this post?

"PSA Santa crate ship drop rates are very small" defines a range of rates. WG does not, has not and likely will not give exact rates. WG does state that the Mega gift crate has the largest chance, but it is still very small. Reminding people that the drop rate is very small is a useful function. If you don't like it, start your own thread with your opinions.

 

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3 minutes ago, Kizarvexis said:

No, WG has not and will likely will not state the odds unless forced to.

"PSA Santa crate ship drop rates are very small" defines a range of rates. WG does not, has not and likely will not give exact rates. WG does state that the Mega gift crate has the largest chance, but it is still very small. Reminding people that the drop rate is very small is a useful function. If you don't like it, start your own thread with your opinions.

It's your thread and you brought it up … which begs the question "what are the drop rates"?

It's not my fault you cannot answer the question you yourself have posed 

 

 

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Just now, Old_Baldy_One said:

So let me get this straight...are the premiums a rare drop?

 

*Ducks long range fire*

Depends on what your definition of rare is. 

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1 minute ago, Commander_367 said:

It's your thread and you brought it up … which begs the question "what are the drop rates"?

It's not my fault you cannot answer the question you yourself have posed 

 

 

Look up the usage of “begs the question.”

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So...dip into my 401K and buy ALL crates.  Roger that! :Smile_honoring:

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16 minutes ago, CaliburxZero said:

While the rates I'm fairly certain grow smaller with each passing year to boot, has anybody managed to get any idea of just how low we are talking for at least the mega boxes?  5%?  3%?  1%?

Amusing how even China of all countries cares enough to protect its people to mandate that games divulge lootbox rates but here in late-stage capitalist West, we aren't even allowed to have this information. 

If memory serves, tests showed that 1$ containers have a tiny chance and 3 and 5$ ones had around 10-12.5% chance. There was a huge pool of people participating on reddit last year.

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1 minute ago, ClassicLib said:

Look up the usage of “begs the question.”

My point is this and it should be obvious to you … 

The OP does not know what the drop rates are any more than my cat :)

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There probably are some people out there who loves statistics, and also have money to burn, who probably have a decent idea of the past santa crate drop rates.  The problem is, to get a decent sample size, you'd have to buy like 1000 of each at least....and even then, that's not enough.  Considering the cheapest box is 5 bucks (I think), that's $5000 right there  if you do that, please message me because I want to be your friend!

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1 minute ago, Old_Baldy_One said:

There probably are some people out there who loves statistics, and also have money to burn, who probably have a decent idea of the past santa crate drop rates.  The problem is, to get a decent sample size, you'd have to buy like 1000 of each at least....and even then, that's not enough.  Considering the cheapest box is 5 bucks, that's $5000 right there  if you do that, please message me because I want to be your friend!

I thought the cheapest were a dollar?  Serious question, I never bought any in the past.

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3 minutes ago, Commander_367 said:

It's your thread and you brought it up … which begs the question "what are the drop rates"?

It's not my fault you cannot answer the question you yourself have posed 

Very small is the best we have. I never said different. That was QUITE clear in the title. If you do not like the fact that we do not have a numerical value, I can not help you. Complain to WG as they have the values. The mods that answer here on the forum will very likely not know the value. The devs who talk here may or may not know. For someone so upset about this, you sure are complaining about a post with warnings in it.

Do you have some other rare ship drop rate? Do tell us oh font of wisdom. :Smile_smile:

 

1 minute ago, Burnsy said:

So...dip into my 401K and buy ALL crates.  Roger that! :Smile_honoring:
 

That is on you. Just be sure you like all the drops in the crate before you do.

 

1 minute ago, Commander_367 said:

My point is this and it should be obvious to you … 

The OP does not know what the drop rates are any more than my cat :)

Never said I did! Is English NOT your first language?

Might I suggest the following?

https://education.cu-portland.edu/blog/classroom-resources/ten-free-reading-comprehension-exercises-online/

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1 minute ago, Burnsy said:

I thought the cheapest were a dollar?  Serious question, I never bought any in the past.

In the past, they were $1, $3, and $5. No values released yet for the 2019 Santa boxes that should appear in the premium shop.

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1 minute ago, Old_Baldy_One said:

There probably are some people out there who loves statistics, and also have money to burn, who probably have a decent idea of the past santa crate drop rates.  The problem is, to get a decent sample size, you'd have to buy like 1000 of each at least....and even then, that's not enough.  Considering the cheapest box is 5 bucks, that's $5000 right there  if you do that, please message me because I want to be your friend!

The drop rates can change at any time, even during an event … what happened yesterday or a year ago is not reliable 

Rates are different for each dollar amount and there could easily be special promotional crates given out to CCs … 

Nobody knows until WG decides to make those numbers fixed and public 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Commander_367 said:

My point is this and it should be obvious to you … 

The OP does not know what the drop rates are any more than my cat :)

I don't think he is claiming to know what the rates are, except to say that from his experience, the drop rate is very low.  Ultimately the goal of his post is to try and prevent the dozens of angry posts we get each year from people who did not get the ship they wanted, or any ships at all, from the boxes they bought.  Setting the expectation as low as possible means that hopefully people are happy with the least of the prizes, and therefore will be ecstatic if they get a ship and besides themselves if they get the ship they want.

He also is trying to avoid the inevitable complaints about not getting doubloons for duplicates.  These posts will come regardless but can't fault someone for trying.

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1 minute ago, Old_Baldy_One said:

I don't think he is claiming to know what the rates are, except to say that from his experience, the drop rate is very low.  Ultimately the goal of his post is to try and prevent the dozens of angry posts we get each year from people who did not get the ship they wanted, or any ships at all, from the boxes they bought.  Setting the expectation as low as possible means that hopefully people are happy with the least of the prizes, and therefore will be ecstatic if they get a ship and besides themselves if they get the ship they want.

He also is trying to avoid the inevitable complaints about not getting doubloons for duplicates.  These posts will come regardless but can't fault someone for trying.

Exactly! :Smile_honoring:

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4 minutes ago, Old_Baldy_One said:

There probably are some people out there who loves statistics, and also have money to burn, who probably have a decent idea of the past santa crate drop rates.  The problem is, to get a decent sample size, you'd have to buy like 1000 of each at least....and even then, that's not enough.  Considering the cheapest box is 5 bucks (I think), that's $5000 right there  if you do that, please message me because I want to be your friend!

WG like to give CCs bundles of crates, so if you get enough CCs together to compile their results it really wouldn't be that hard.

Only issue is that this year you get no ship doubloons if you have every ship, so nobody with all the ship would have valid data. Still not what I'd call a common group, but the point stands.

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