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I even got new software and everything but my son said the FTC gonna be dropping fines come 1 January!?

Wth!!

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10 minutes ago, JaysUsedBoatParts said:

I even got new software and everything but my son said the FTC gonna be dropping fines come 1 January!?

Wth!!

Youtube is an awful platform anyway. Use a different platform.

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But.... but... but... it's "for the children".    We should protect their privacy at all costs!

And totally ignore the privacy of the rest of us.   Why stop at kids?   How about for all?

I'm all for free enterprise, and kudos to those that make money goofing around instead of having a job.   But, I should be given the ability to opt-in for any data gathering and marketing.   And no, visiting the website should not be implied as an opt-in.

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6 minutes ago, DiddleDum said:

But.... but... but... it's "for the children".    We should protect their privacy at all costs!

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Hiro804 said:

Looks like it all depends on the target audience.  Videos targeted at children have different requirements about data gathering, etc.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/11/13/20963459/youtube-google-coppa-ftc-fine-settlement-youtubers-new-rules

 

 

It looks like if you don't label your videos as "directed at kids", you're ok.

And since the cut-off age is 13, which also happens to be the lowest age that's supposed to be playing WoWS, no problem, you aren't directing videos at kids anyway.

I think the whole idea of it is that, if your kids are looking for videos, they can watch ones labelled as "for kids", and not have any privacy issues.

If they're under 13 and not watching "for kids" videos, well, any privacy issues are on Mom & Dad.

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Is that a new ship Wargaming is rolling out?   For steel, coal, or FXP???  :Smile_child:

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11 minutes ago, Skpstr said:

It looks like if you don't label your videos as "directed at kids", you're ok.

And since the cut-off age is 13, which also happens to be the lowest age that's supposed to be playing WoWS, no problem, you aren't directing videos at kids anyway.

I think the whole idea of it is that, if your kids are looking for videos, they can watch ones labelled as "for kids", and not have any privacy issues.

If they're under 13 and not watching "for kids" videos, well, any privacy issues are on Mom & Dad.

My son said that some youtubers were complaining that youtube themselves would go in and label your videos as ok for kids even if you unchecked it.  IDK if this is true and dont care enough to fact check but if it is it changes things.

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YouTube plans or at least planned on letting an algorithm go in and identify videos as "for kids" automatically, based on things such as "bright colors" and "simplified images" -- basically a lot of old garbage tropes about what's "for kids" vs "for adults".   The "new" FTC policy is targeted at companies like YouTube, but some of those companies are going to do a "bomb the site from orbit, only way to be safe" approach to what they tag "for kids" and demonetize in order to steer way clear of the new rules. 

 

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Google was fined heavily enough that it got real serious about an old law protecting kids from having info harvested about them (context: youtube harvests viewer/demographic info for sales).

There's a new box for "Video's for kiddos" vs "Not for kiddos".  Check as appropriate.

Because "For Kiddos" doesn't get targeted ad revenue bucks, YouTube is concerned folks will make videos for kids, but say they aren't (for sweet sweet ad revenue).

Expect an algorithm that misidentifies videos and causes drama, though actual fines will likely only end up being enforced against actual offenders.  Many folks will likely have de-monetized videos while the code screws things up.

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53 minutes ago, JaysUsedBoatParts said:

the FTC gonna be dropping fines come 1 January!?

Are your WoWs videos used to sell anything? Are you being paid by WG or receiving anything of value to promote WG products or any other product? If yes then you may have a problem. If no, they are properly classified and nothing more than your braggadocio about your game play there shouldn't be a problem.

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1 hour ago, JaysUsedBoatParts said:

I even got new software and everything but my son said the FTC gonna be dropping fines come 1 January!?

Wth!!

It is all so vague and uncontrolled... they won; be able to effectively police it... they allow violence and sex on TV all day without an issue, but put it on you tube and it is bad??

 

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12 minutes ago, CAPTMUDDXX said:

Are your WoWs videos used to sell anything? Are you being paid by WG or receiving anything of value to promote WG products or any other product? If yes then you may have a problem. If no, they are properly classified and nothing more than your braggadocio about your game play there shouldn't be a problem.

That's not how it works.

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34 minutes ago, KilljoyCutter said:

YouTube plans or at least planned on letting an algorithm go in and identify videos as "for kids" automatically, based on things such as "bright colors" and "simplified images" -- basically a lot of old garbage tropes about what's "for kids" vs "for adults".   The "new" FTC policy is targeted at companies like YouTube, but some of those companies are going to do a "bomb the site from orbit, only way to be safe" approach to what they tag "for kids" and demonetize in order to steer way clear of the new rules. 

 

Thats going to be hard on shows like Happy Tree House Friends

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8 minutes ago, Burnsy said:

That's not how it works.

How is that not how it works?   It's about monetization.  If the OP simply posts videos of his game play, with no adverts or monetization, that's perfectly cool to YT and the FTC.

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With any platform, you just need to read and understand the ToS and guidelines of the various laws and legislations related to the platform.

They will have to have proof of a rule being broken for you to get in trouble for anything, so you just need to be informed.

Fem, 

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I think Admiral Jingles talked about it some in last week's ,or the week before,  on his Saturday Mingles with Jingles YouTube post. 

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3 minutes ago, Femennenly said:

They will have to have proof of a rule being broken for you to get in trouble for anything, so you just need to be informed.

:cap_cool: Have you seen the news the last six months?    Proof of a rule being broken is long-since past.   It's based on the "feels" now.

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23 minutes ago, DiddleDum said:

How is that not how it works?   It's about monetization.  If the OP simply posts videos of his game play, with no adverts or monetization, that's perfectly cool to YT and the FTC.

You don't have to be "selling something" or be being paid by WG (or anyone) to post a video, for the rule to apply. 

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1 hour ago, KilljoyCutter said:

YouTube plans or at least planned on letting an algorithm go in and identify videos as "for kids" automatically, based on things such as "bright colors" and "simplified images" -- basically a lot of old garbage tropes about what's "for kids" vs "for adults".   The "new" FTC policy is targeted at companies like YouTube, but some of those companies are going to do a "bomb the site from orbit, only way to be safe" approach to what they tag "for kids" and demonetize in order to steer way clear of the new rules. 

 

   This facility had a substantial dollar value.

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1 hour ago, Daniel_Allan_Clark said:

Youtube is an awful platform anyway. Use a different platform.

What are the alternatives?

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7 minutes ago, Crokodone said:

What are the alternatives?

Twitch is the platform most content creators move to when they are done with youtube.

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32 minutes ago, Femennenly said:

With any platform, you just need to read and understand the ToS and guidelines of the various laws and legislations related to the platform.

They will have to have proof of a rule being broken for you to get in trouble for anything, so you just need to be informed.

Fem, 

He is talking about COPPA feel free to look it up as it will impact the community contributors as well. 

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1 minute ago, landedkiller said:

He is talking about COPPA feel free to look it up as it will impact the community contributors as well. 

I'm aware of COPPA, I have my own YT after all ;)

Ultimately however it is up to the creators to learn and abide by the rules on various platforms. 

Fem, 

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