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Can JB get a fighter/spotter plane?

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Be great. Perfect for meta. Ships WR would increase dramatically.

I'll even give up RB for it.

I know the dd mafia is gonna hate me for this but it's a good thing 

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I dunno, its AA is already pretty good, and you want to fire further than, what, 22km or so?

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I don't think JB needs a catapult fighter/spotter because reasons already mention by Darieos. 

Maybe the damage saturation buff that the french DDs has but thats just me. 

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I didn't realise there were BBs that high up without fighters.

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Why would DDs care about JB getting a fighter/spotter? Neither allows the ship to be better or worse against DDs than she already is. And it's not like she needs what either plane provides in any other department either.

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To remain 'true' to her current, 1950s form, she'd be more likely to have a helicopter, not a spotter plane.

 

I believe the later Tier French BBs have a mark on the stern for a helicopter landing zone.

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36 minutes ago, JaysUsedBoatParts said:

Ships WR would increase dramatically.

JB has a 51% WR....   what is it lacking in capability?   It's a a solid ship and a beast in good hands.

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9 minutes ago, Skpstr said:

I didn't realise there were BBs that high up without fighters.

The UK & RU lines are just repair, heal. No other consumables at all.

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48 minutes ago, JaysUsedBoatParts said:

Be great. Perfect for meta. Ships WR would increase dramatically.

I'll even give up RB for it.

I know the dd mafia is gonna hate me for this but it's a good thing 

Jean Bart has the best AA of T9 ships, no need for fighter.

22km range on 8 guns with German dispersion, no need for spotter

planes no longer spot torpedoes, it its really not as useful as it could be

Jean Bart is probably a little too good in the hands of people who know how use the reload booster, and its WR is good (middle of the pack in terms of everyone and behind Alsace in winrate, ahead on damage in terms of the top 5%)

 

12 minutes ago, Skpstr said:

I didn't realise there were BBs that high up without fighters.

Conqueror, Thunderer, Bourgogne, Republique off the top of my head.

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17 minutes ago, tfcas119 said:

planes no longer spot torpedoes, it its really not as useful as it could be

 

Squadrons no longer spot torpedoes. Did this also get applied to ship's spotter/fighter planes as well? I've never noticed not spotting them...

Edit: Disregard this post. Found it - "To improve the balance between aircraft and destroyers, squadrons have lost the ability to spot torpedoes. This change will also affect the Fighter and Spotting Aircraft consumables."

Duh...

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Just now, Khafni said:

Squadrons no longer spot torpedoes. Did this also get applied to ship's spotter/fighter planes as well? I've never noticed not spotting them...

yes. even ship launched aircraft.

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38 minutes ago, tfcas119 said:

Jean Bart has the best AA of T9 ships, no need for fighter.

22km range on 8 guns with German dispersion, no need for spotter

planes no longer spot torpedoes, it its really not as useful as it could be

Jean Bart is probably a little too good in the hands of people who know how use the reload booster, and its WR is good (middle of the pack in terms of everyone and behind Alsace in winrate, ahead on damage in terms of the top 5%)

 

Conqueror, Thunderer, Bourgogne, Republique off the top of my head.

Yes but they do spot dds and that is necessary to balance it back into the meta 

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4 minutes ago, JaysUsedBoatParts said:

Yes but they do spot dds 

 And you would give up RB? That's steep.

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18 minutes ago, JaysUsedBoatParts said:

Yes but they do spot dds and that is necessary to balance it back into the meta 

No they won’t.

Look at how far the planes fly from the ship and then look at the air detection ranges of DDs.

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15 minutes ago, berree said:

 And you would give up RB? That's steep.

TBH, RB is such a gimic. I use it at first chance and forget about it until it’s off cooldown. I’d rather have a slightly faster base reload.

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9 minutes ago, JaysUsedBoatParts said:

Yes but they do spot dds

most DD's have a ~3km detection by air...    what is the patrol radius of a spotter plane?      Will a spotter plane pick up a DD before  one surface spots it?    Questions because I'm curious about the thought.    From a DD driver's perspective and experience, if I'm close enough to get picked up by a spotter plane, there are already, angry fish in the water.

If the thought is to reduce the risk of getting surprised by close in DDs,  one can do this better by paying attention to the mini map and predicting where the DD will be.   We are a pretty predicable bunch.  

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48 minutes ago, JaysUsedBoatParts said:

Yes but they do spot dds and that is necessary to balance it back into the meta 

if a DD is stupid enough to have his AA on and get spotted by a catapult fighter, he probably deserves to get blapped.

I also have to ask, does the reason why you want Jean Bart buffed involve the ship, or the person commanding the ship? Every piece of evidence says Jean Bart has no issues dealing with the current meta, so I think that only leaves the person commanding the ship.

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2 hours ago, JaysUsedBoatParts said:

Be Pointless Irrelevant to the meta. Ships WR would not be impacted at all

I'll even give up the last shreds of my self respect for it.

I know the Non-Potato Player Base is gonna laugh at me for this but it's another trivial reason for me to spam troll threads kinda thing 

I've tweaked your post a bit, it makes more sense to the rest of the forum now.

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45 minutes ago, HazardDrake said:

TBH, RB is such a gimic. I use it at first chance and forget about it until it’s off cooldown. I’d rather have a slightly faster base reload.

At the very least they could extend the action time of the consumable. It only "boosts" 2 reload cycles, in full. Double that!

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2 hours ago, TheArc said:

The UK & RU lines are just repair, heal. No other consumables at all.

Shows how much I pay attention.

I have KGV, and could have sworn it had a fighter. Same with Sinop, and I just got it 2 days ago lol.

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1 hour ago, BadWolfz said:

most DD's have a ~3km detection by air...    what is the patrol radius of a spotter plane?      Will a spotter plane pick up a DD before  one surface spots it?   

I believe the spotting ranges are set up so that a ship either spots first or at the same time.

Using planes to scout is really only useful around islands.

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43 minutes ago, Skpstr said:

Shows how much I pay attention.

I have KGV, and could have sworn it had a fighter. Same with Sinop, and I just got it 2 days ago lol.

You are not crazy, KGV has the aircraft which is a thing that sets her apart from DoY, who doesn‘t. 

Conqueror and Kremlin are both catapult-less ships, and without a catapult it‘s kinda difficult to launch an aircraft when at the same time there are annoying things like gun directors and turrets in the way of making the entire ship a flight deck.

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Just now, SireneRacker said:

You are not crazy, KGV has the aircraft which is a thing that sets her apart from DoY, who doesn‘t. 

Conqueror and Kremlin are both catapult-less ships, and without a catapult it‘s kinda difficult to launch an aircraft when at the same time there are annoying things like gun directors and turrets in the way of making the entire ship a flight deck.

Ok, now I'm really muddled. I just sold Izmail, and I remember it had a cat on on of the turrets. It has a plane, right?

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