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According to the update notes, there is going to be an RN cruiser line split at Tier 5 with

T5 - Hawkins 

T6 - Devonshire

T7 -   Surrey

T8 - Bedford

T9 - Drake

T10 -Goliath

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The following ships have been added for testing by developers, supertesters, and community contributors: flag_United_Kingdom_c1f75d7cca85dc4b4820special_333a61069a325ba8314cbbae96c1a345 V Hawkins, flag_United_Kingdom_c1f75d7cca85dc4b4820special_333a61069a325ba8314cbbae96c1a345 VI Devonshire, flag_United_Kingdom_c1f75d7cca85dc4b4820special_333a61069a325ba8314cbbae96c1a345 VII Surrey, flag_United_Kingdom_c1f75d7cca85dc4b4820special_333a61069a325ba8314cbbae96c1a345 VIII Bedford, flag_United_Kingdom_c1f75d7cca85dc4b4820special_333a61069a325ba8314cbbae96c1a345 IX Drake, flag_United_Kingdom_c1f75d7cca85dc4b4820special_333a61069a325ba8314cbbae96c1a345 X Goliath, flag_United_Kingdom_c1f75d7cca85dc4b4820premium_1114542bcd311c388080eea3a4d54a7e VI London, flag_Germany_18970d883c7758b53538983bd09premium_1d0cabf1997104fd727039ab9c098192 VIII Odin, and flag_Pan_Asia_3b66d1136c736e56c9f2f7cda2premium_9ffc494df739f989c98f2dd3a4e40887 VIII Siliwangi.

https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/game-updates/update-0810-resolute-and-rapid/

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It is good. Sure I think that the town class is one tier lower than it should be, but for the rest it seems fairly food. Depends of how the British CA line will compete.... hopefully this time the line will feel more complete: the last 2 lines were fairly mediocre until the higher tier.

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London is almost exactly what I've wanted for some time. Only way I'd be happier is if she had no HE and had super AP pen angles.

The line, on the other hand, seems alright. Pre-T8 seems a tad boring, but T8+ sounds... interesting, I suppose. Salem exists, however, so Goliath may be hard to justify going for potentially.

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25 minutes ago, 13579bc_bc said:

According to the update notes, there is going to be an RN cruiser line split at Tier 5 with

T5 - Hawkins 

T6 - Devonshire

T7 -   Surrey

T8 - Bedford

T9 - Drake

T10 -Goliath

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The following ships have been added for testing by developers, supertesters, and community contributors: flag_United_Kingdom_c1f75d7cca85dc4b4820special_333a61069a325ba8314cbbae96c1a345 V Hawkins, flag_United_Kingdom_c1f75d7cca85dc4b4820special_333a61069a325ba8314cbbae96c1a345 VI Devonshire, flag_United_Kingdom_c1f75d7cca85dc4b4820special_333a61069a325ba8314cbbae96c1a345 VII Surrey, flag_United_Kingdom_c1f75d7cca85dc4b4820special_333a61069a325ba8314cbbae96c1a345 VIII Bedford, flag_United_Kingdom_c1f75d7cca85dc4b4820special_333a61069a325ba8314cbbae96c1a345 IX Drake, flag_United_Kingdom_c1f75d7cca85dc4b4820special_333a61069a325ba8314cbbae96c1a345 X Goliath, flag_United_Kingdom_c1f75d7cca85dc4b4820premium_1114542bcd311c388080eea3a4d54a7e VI London, flag_Germany_18970d883c7758b53538983bd09premium_1d0cabf1997104fd727039ab9c098192 VIII Odin, and flag_Pan_Asia_3b66d1136c736e56c9f2f7cda2premium_9ffc494df739f989c98f2dd3a4e40887 VIII Siliwangi.

https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/game-updates/update-0810-resolute-and-rapid/

Any thoughts?

Hawkins: Like Emerald, has a lot going for her on paper, but will suck because of her citadel

Devon, Surrey: look like good operations farmers, but not bad random grinders (to be fair, any T6 or 7 cruiser with 8in guns is good for operations due to a nice number of broadsiding cruisers)

Ablemarle: like Emerald, Hawkins, and Neptune, so much potential, but that damn citadel

Drake: 9.2in guns with Zao level AP pen on the stealthiest T9 cruiser, this is gonna be good

Goliath: probably will be to Drake what Buffalo is to DM/Baltimore- a side grade that although really good, doesn't feel like it belongs in the tech tree.

London: Daring's fast acting 1% health heal, smoke, at the cost of range and DPM, on paper looks good. This will probably be to this British arc what Genova and Sirocco were earlier- the free premium that came with the line, also looks like it is tier for tier, one of the better ones.

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37 minutes ago, tfcas119 said:

Hawkins: Like Emerald, has a lot going for her on paper, but will suck because of her citadel

Hawkins is actually going to be the best protected T5 cruiser- beating Furutaka- as long as you don't broadside.

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As for the others, they've already been nerfed, and look incredibly tanky, so they may see another nerf in testing.

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1 hour ago, 13579bc_bc said:

According to the update notes, there is going to be an RN cruiser line split at Tier 5 with

T5 - Hawkins 

T6 - Devonshire

T7 -   Surrey

T8 - Bedford

T9 - Drake

T10 -Goliath

  Reveal hidden contents

The following ships have been added for testing by developers, supertesters, and community contributors: flag_United_Kingdom_c1f75d7cca85dc4b4820special_333a61069a325ba8314cbbae96c1a345 V Hawkins, flag_United_Kingdom_c1f75d7cca85dc4b4820special_333a61069a325ba8314cbbae96c1a345 VI Devonshire, flag_United_Kingdom_c1f75d7cca85dc4b4820special_333a61069a325ba8314cbbae96c1a345 VII Surrey, flag_United_Kingdom_c1f75d7cca85dc4b4820special_333a61069a325ba8314cbbae96c1a345 VIII Bedford, flag_United_Kingdom_c1f75d7cca85dc4b4820special_333a61069a325ba8314cbbae96c1a345 IX Drake, flag_United_Kingdom_c1f75d7cca85dc4b4820special_333a61069a325ba8314cbbae96c1a345 X Goliath, flag_United_Kingdom_c1f75d7cca85dc4b4820premium_1114542bcd311c388080eea3a4d54a7e VI London, flag_Germany_18970d883c7758b53538983bd09premium_1d0cabf1997104fd727039ab9c098192 VIII Odin, and flag_Pan_Asia_3b66d1136c736e56c9f2f7cda2premium_9ffc494df739f989c98f2dd3a4e40887 VIII Siliwangi.

https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/game-updates/update-0810-resolute-and-rapid/

Any thoughts?

Bedford was renamed Abermarle over the last few days. There will be a T8 variant of Abermarle with 234mm guns as well.

They will be interesting, but they are just going into the initial testing starting tomorrow with 8.10, so there will almost certain be some changes before they are released.

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Here's the original announcement:

Latest:

Overall, I'm fairly interested so far.

 

9 minutes ago, Kingpin61 said:

Hawkins is actually going to be the best protected T5 cruiser- beating Furutaka- as long as you don't broadside.

Well.. about that broadsiding

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Oh dear.

The citadel's pretty ridiculous too:

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GM3D Data - All RN Heavy Cruiser Citadel & Armor Layouts

 

The shell drag of 0.445 is also among the worst in the game.

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It seems odd to have two lines of heavy cruisers come out back to back.

According to those armor and citadel layouts, the Tier 6 and 7 seem pretty good to me. Those are some relatively small, low citadels.

I've always been a cruiser guy so I'm excited, if I stick around, for another line of cruisers, especially heavy cruisers.

Any info on the AA?

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21 minutes ago, Skuggsja said:

It seems odd to have two lines of heavy cruisers come out back to back.

According to those armor and citadel layouts, the Tier 6 and 7 seem pretty good to me. Those are some relatively small, low citadels.

I've always been a cruiser guy so I'm excited, if I stick around, for another line of cruisers, especially heavy cruisers.

Any info on the AA?

Just what's in here. Since the RN CAs are just now going into testing, they will almost certainly change over the next few patches.

 

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I'm definitely interested in the Counties and Drake, the line seems like something of a hybrid of France and the US from what I can see (but then I'm terrible at this). I'd just like to point out that it's not really a "split", that would imply that some of the current line of cruisers would be transferred to the new one. This is just adding on a CA line to compliment the CLs.

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This could be cool, because historically WoWs has never screwed up a new line or a line split so what could possibly go wrong?

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Interesting, but was really hoping they would go into the Italian BB line sooner rather than later...since USSR BBs came out, we've had what, one new DD line, one new CA line and now another CA line ahead of a BB line, or even a paper USSR CV line? :Smile_smile:

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1 hour ago, Frigate007 said:

And their reload times.....

In combination with the Gimped range. I could live with either or; a rapid fire brawler (what I felt USN CA/CL's should have been; my version would have had them AP only with 32mm plating and RN CL style heals and a 10% range reduction (and no ability to mount the Range increase at T9/T10); no smoke and no torps being the balance points) or a mid/long range harasser, but instead they've opted for meh.

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British CA and CL lines should be separate (as should the CA and CL lines for all nations).  This comingling is unbalancing the types.

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1 hour ago, monpetitloup said:

Any free port slots involved?

If you get a RN CA mission via a crate from the inevitable RN CA event, you'll get port slot along with the ship. 

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Only interested in the tier V and VI (wish the split started at tier 3 with Black Prince, but we can't have nice [re: armored cruisers] things). I might have bought London, but with a 15s reload, she looks like a dog.

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