63 [SEMFI] NoobieDude [SEMFI] Members 91 posts Report post #1 Posted November 7, 2019 I"m new so where can i find this. I'm a tank guy. sooooo? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,302 [SPTR] Rolkatsuki Members 27,186 posts 16,913 battles Report post #2 Posted November 7, 2019 OP: original poster/overpowered DD: Destroyer CL: light cruiser CA: heavy cruiser BB: Battleship CV: Aircraft Carrier Names: QE(Queen Elizabeth), Monty(Montana), NO(New Orleans) You'll learn more along the way 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
658 mobryan Members 1,445 posts 7,009 battles Report post #3 Posted November 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, NoobieDude said: I"m new so where can i find this. I'm a tank guy. sooooo? Nobbie needs to find his CAPLOCK key first... A quick rundown: BB - Battleship CV-Aircraft Carrier CA/CL- Heavy and Light cruisers, often applied generically to any cruiser DD- Destroyer Sub- The name which shall not be spoken Matt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
611 [KW] JaysUsedBoatParts Banned 715 posts 1,092 battles Report post #4 Posted November 7, 2019 Just now, Rolkatsuki said: OP: original poster/overpowered DD: Destroyer CL: light cruiser CA: heavy cruiser BB: Battleship CV: Aircraft Carrier Names: QE(Queen Elizabeth), Monty(Montana), NO(New Orleans) You'll learn more along the way Why isnt Light Cruiser LC Heavy Cruiser HC Aircraft Carrier AC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
724 [TFK] Tpaktop2_1 [TFK] Alpha Tester 1,676 posts 20,724 battles Report post #5 Posted November 7, 2019 (edited) You can go here: http://shipcomrade.com/ and here https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Terminology I hope this helps. Welcome aboard, and see you on the seas. Edited November 7, 2019 by Tpaktop2_1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,302 [SPTR] Rolkatsuki Members 27,186 posts 16,913 battles Report post #6 Posted November 7, 2019 10 minutes ago, JaysUsedBoatParts said: Why isnt Light Cruiser LC Heavy Cruiser HC Aircraft Carrier AC I honestly don't kow myself we all we t working from the USN hull classifications symbols. Even Battlestations Midway/Pacific games made in Europe and Kantai Collection a japanese web browser games uses this too to ID the ships in their games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
555 [-TKS-] skillztowin [-TKS-] Members 1,259 posts 12,358 battles Report post #7 Posted November 7, 2019 18 minutes ago, JaysUsedBoatParts said: Why isnt Light Cruiser LC Heavy Cruiser HC Aircraft Carrier AC i believe its because the original letters were assigned from other languages. words that mean similar things... From wiki about CV.... ["CV" derives from the cruiser designation, with the v for French voler, "to fly"] -wikipedia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,008 [KSC] yashma Clan Supertest Coordinator 5,240 posts 8,384 battles Report post #8 Posted November 7, 2019 29 minutes ago, JaysUsedBoatParts said: Why isnt Light Cruiser LC Heavy Cruiser HC Aircraft Carrier AC The strange thing is people frequently abandon this classification system for battlecruiser (CC) and just resort to a simple abbreviation (BC) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,179 [5BS] _RC1138 Banned 8,864 posts Report post #9 Posted November 7, 2019 (edited) 37 minutes ago, JaysUsedBoatParts said: Why isnt Light Cruiser LC Heavy Cruiser HC Aircraft Carrier AC Because everyone uses the USN Hull classification system: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hull_classification_symbol#Warships It's reasonably consistent, hasn't change much since the early 1900's, and has fairly, in most cases, specific enough definitions to comfortably apply to all potential types of warships, and there's a degree of logic to it as it allows grouping. So CA, original for armoured cruisers, is short for, 'Cruiser, Armoured,' and later, 'Cruiser, Heavy', as opposed to CL, which is 'Cruiser, Light', or CC, 'Cruiser, Capital' for battlecruiser. Similarly there is D for destroyer as either, 'DD' Destroyer, Fleet, and DE, 'Destroyer, Escort.' As far as what is currently in game we have BB, Battleship CA, Heavy Cruiser (in reality, any cruiser with 8" guns or less (but no less than 6"), in game, any cruiser with 8" guns or larger that is not classed as a Battleship (because the game has no Battlecruiser class) CL, Light Cruiser: Any cruiser with 6" guns or below CC: Cruiser, Capital, Battlecruisers a few examples in game, some disputed 'CB': Cruiser, Large (Big), a made up hull symbol for the Alaskas to justify the expenditure for a Battlecruiser, a capital ship, by calling it something that makes it a 'normal' cruiser DD, Destroyer CV, 'Fleet Carrier' CVL, 'Light Carrier' CVE 'Escort Carrier' (we used to have 1 but it was removed for the foreseeable future) CVA, 'Carrier Attack' Midway's formal hull symbol SS: Submarine/Attack Submarine (GP subs with medium range) SF: Fleet Submarine, larger boats with extended range (Type IX's, Gatos, ect) SC: Submarine, Cruiser, subs armed with LARGE deck guns (had one in a Halloween mode a year ago) At Tier one you have an odd mixture of AC (auxiliary cruiser), FF (Frigates), PG (Patrol Gunboat), and the like but given how Tier 1 is handled they are rarely referenced so specifically. The USN was very bureaucratic at this time, and thus had a VERY particular system for all ships, not just for hull classifications, but naming, and it is very effective if not boring, that all ships with State names are Battleships, Large cities, Heavy Cruisers, small cities/towns, Light Cruisers, Battle names from history, Carriers, Admirals/Sailors/Soldiers names for Destroyers, fish/sea creature names, Submarines. There were exceptions, like Enterprise for Carriers and a few cruisers iirc named for people, but as a general rule, for american ships, you can easily identify at a glance by the name alone of what type of ship it is. Royal Navy is similar, but requires a great deal more knowledge of history as what kinds of ships carry what kinds of names based on what fleet it is to serve in; for example 'Warspite' is typically reserved for a Fleet Flagship Capital ship, Indefatigable is for a Fleet Frigate/Cruiser/Fleet Carrier. There are other Navy's that have used sort of similar classifications, (RN uses C for cruisers, Pennants for Battleships (and sometimes Cruisers, depends on the type and year), D for destroyers, F for frigates (essentially a DE)) but the USN is very familiar worldwide and an effective shorthand. Older, non-american books sometimes use the 'linguistic' abbreviations, such as BC for Battlecruiser, [edited] for Battleship, LC for Light Cruiser, ect, but that fell out of favour in much of academia by the mid 60's/late 70's and wasn't particularly common to start as British academics tend to shy from abbreviations in general and would most often write out the full name instead or refer to the ships by name. 6 minutes ago, yashma said: The strange thing is people frequently abandon this classification system for battlecruiser (CC) and just resort to a simple abbreviation (BC) Yes, we call those people morons. Edited November 7, 2019 by _RC1138 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
63 [SEMFI] NoobieDude [SEMFI] Members 91 posts Report post #10 Posted November 7, 2019 Thanx for all your help guys. This old Marine isn't as tech savvy as most of you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
63 [SEMFI] NoobieDude [SEMFI] Members 91 posts Report post #11 Posted November 7, 2019 1 hour ago, mobryan said: Nobbie needs to find his CAPLOCK key first... A quick rundown: BB - Battleship CV-Aircraft Carrier CA/CL- Heavy and Light cruisers, often applied generically to any cruiser DD- Destroyer Sub- The name which shall not be spoken Matt Hey Matt did the CAPS get your attention? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
63 [SEMFI] NoobieDude [SEMFI] Members 91 posts Report post #12 Posted November 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Tpaktop2_1 said: You can go here: http://shipcomrade.com/ and here https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Terminology I hope this helps. Welcome aboard, and see you on the seas. This is very helpful. Thank-you! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,872 [O_O] Khafni [O_O] Members 5,082 posts 22,645 battles Report post #13 Posted November 7, 2019 Yo, Jarhead, here is another list of dang near all the ship abbreviations, plus. https://www.history.navy.mil/content/history/nhhc/research/histories/ship-histories/abbreviations.html#c Didn't you get all this lingo while at sea? Just how much sea time do you have? Semper Fi...(another old Marine) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
63 [SEMFI] NoobieDude [SEMFI] Members 91 posts Report post #14 Posted November 7, 2019 IKR. i was stationed at Kaneohe Bay Oahu. MCAS. but never went on float. lol MOS 1371. MABS 31 Combat Engineer. 78/81. no grunt in me though. Solid Wing support. F4's and Harriers Thanx for the help. o7 bro.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,451 [WOLFC] DocWalker Members 3,087 posts Report post #15 Posted November 7, 2019 1 hour ago, JaysUsedBoatParts said: Why isnt Light Cruiser LC Heavy Cruiser HC Aircraft Carrier AC Because ... Military ... as we used to say, "There's the Right Way, the Wrong Way and the Army Way" e.g. Blanket, Wool, Army Green, 1 ea Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
395 [A-O] freggo Members 1,025 posts 10,474 battles Report post #16 Posted November 7, 2019 1 hour ago, JaysUsedBoatParts said: Why isnt Light Cruiser LC Heavy Cruiser HC Aircraft Carrier AC For the same reason that we park on a driveway and drive on a parkway. Language can be a funny thing :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,179 [5BS] _RC1138 Banned 8,864 posts Report post #17 Posted November 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, DocWalker said: e.g. Blanket, Wool, Army Green, 1 ea They stopped calling it a Green Girl? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
63 [SEMFI] NoobieDude [SEMFI] Members 91 posts Report post #18 Posted November 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, DocWalker said: Because ... Military ... as we used to say, "There's the Right Way, the Wrong Way and the Army Way" e.g. Blanket, Wool, Army Green, 1 ea You have your Army dogs , Navy squids and Air Force fly boy's. And the few and the proud... Guess. There absolutely the best. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
332 [PHD] GrayPanther2018 Members 1,694 posts 7,037 battles Report post #19 Posted November 7, 2019 But there are more....I have trouble keeping up. Like Captain skills PM= Preventive Maintenance, LS=Last Stand and IFHE=Inertial Fuse High Exlosive. Ship modules SGMod1 =Steering Gears Mod 1. Then there is gameplay YOLO = You Only Have One life (a ship suicide attack) I have to guess sometimes or look them up too, if I know where to look. The keystroke list is not complete either. But it is like other things you have to figure out the language as you go. And it's not just this game it's 21 st, and earlier, century life. For example Like RN (not Royal Navy as here but Round Nose) HP, RNFP, SWC, HBWC, JHC. I f you are wondering those are bullet types. It is a problem that you have to learn as you go or use this forum and the helpful people here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,327 [SALVO] eviltane Members 2,518 posts 6,689 battles Report post #20 Posted November 7, 2019 18 minutes ago, GrayPanther2018 said: YOLO = You Only Have One life (a ship suicide attack) Just to be that guy, the meaning is right but the abbreviation is: YOLO = You Only Live Once Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
332 [PHD] GrayPanther2018 Members 1,694 posts 7,037 battles Report post #21 Posted November 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, eviltane said: Just to be that guy, the meaning is right but the abbreviation is: YOLO = You Only Live Once See, I said ( or did I?) it can be hard to keep up with all of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,203 [A-D-F] Captain_Slattery Members 2,110 posts 7,630 battles Report post #22 Posted November 7, 2019 @NoobieDude, Semper Fi, brother. Also, Happy Birthday (a bit early). 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,476 [A-D-F] Doombeagle [A-D-F] Members 2,309 posts Report post #23 Posted November 7, 2019 1 hour ago, NoobieDude said: You have your Army dogs , Navy squids and Air Force fly boy's. And the few and the proud... Guess. There absolutely the best. Wait, I thought they were just Navy recruits who couldn't figure out how to use a scraper, or silverware. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,905 [WOLFG] Skpstr Members 30,721 posts 9,329 battles Report post #24 Posted November 7, 2019 4 hours ago, JaysUsedBoatParts said: Why isnt Light Cruiser LC Heavy Cruiser HC Aircraft Carrier AC Ask the US Navy lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,937 [CNO] Soshi_Sone Members 6,078 posts 18,552 battles Report post #25 Posted November 7, 2019 3 hours ago, eviltane said: Just to be that guy, the meaning is right but the abbreviation is: YOLO = You Only Live Once It's also meant to rhyme with (and almost spelled the same as) SOLO. It's a solo suicide attack. Combines multiple concepts in one four letter word. Also, it's sometimes not technically a suicide attack, but someone attempting to do something alone that nine times out of ten has the same result as a suicide attack. Occasionally, yolos are tactically (or strategically) sound. The DD that yolos into an unopposed cap, captures it, and gets out alive. It's usually used in a negative context, but can (on occasion) be positive. Context is usually sufficient to figure it out. Examples: "Our BB yolo'd up the middle, got focused, and died early". "Please don't yolo to C". "Got a Lemming west and a yolo east". [i..e, 11 going west, one going east] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
