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DD: Destroyer

CL: light cruiser

CA: heavy cruiser

BB: Battleship

CV: Aircraft Carrier

Names: QE(Queen Elizabeth), Monty(Montana), NO(New Orleans) 

You'll learn more along the way

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9 minutes ago, NoobieDude said:

I"m new so where can i find this. I'm a tank guy. sooooo?

 

Nobbie needs to find his CAPLOCK key first...

A quick rundown:

BB - Battleship

CV-Aircraft Carrier

CA/CL- Heavy and Light cruisers, often applied generically to any cruiser

DD- Destroyer

Sub- The name which shall not be spoken

 

 

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Just now, Rolkatsuki said:

OP: original poster/overpowered

DD: Destroyer

CL: light cruiser

CA: heavy cruiser

BB: Battleship

CV: Aircraft Carrier

Names: QE(Queen Elizabeth), Monty(Montana), NO(New Orleans) 

You'll learn more along the way

Why isnt 

Light Cruiser  LC

Heavy Cruiser HC

Aircraft Carrier  AC

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10 minutes ago, JaysUsedBoatParts said:

Why isnt 

Light Cruiser  LC

Heavy Cruiser HC

Aircraft Carrier  AC

I honestly don't kow myself we all we t working from the USN hull classifications symbols. Even Battlestations Midway/Pacific games made in Europe and Kantai Collection a japanese web browser games uses this too to ID the ships in their games.

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18 minutes ago, JaysUsedBoatParts said:

Why isnt 

Light Cruiser  LC

Heavy Cruiser HC

Aircraft Carrier  AC

i believe its because the original letters were assigned from other languages.  words that mean similar things... From wiki about CV.... 

["CV" derives from the cruiser designation, with the v for French voler, "to fly"] -wikipedia

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29 minutes ago, JaysUsedBoatParts said:

Why isnt 

Light Cruiser  LC

Heavy Cruiser HC

Aircraft Carrier  AC

The strange thing is people frequently abandon this classification system for battlecruiser (CC) and just resort to a simple abbreviation (BC)

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37 minutes ago, JaysUsedBoatParts said:

Why isnt 

Light Cruiser  LC

Heavy Cruiser HC

Aircraft Carrier  AC

Because everyone uses the USN Hull classification system:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hull_classification_symbol#Warships

It's reasonably consistent, hasn't change much since the early 1900's, and has fairly, in most cases, specific enough definitions to comfortably apply to all potential types of warships, and there's a degree of logic to it as it allows grouping. So CA, original for armoured cruisers, is short for, 'Cruiser, Armoured,' and later, 'Cruiser, Heavy', as opposed to CL, which is 'Cruiser, Light', or CC, 'Cruiser, Capital' for battlecruiser. Similarly there is D for destroyer as either, 'DD' Destroyer, Fleet, and DE, 'Destroyer, Escort.'

As far as what is currently in game we have

BB, Battleship

CA, Heavy Cruiser (in reality, any cruiser with 8" guns or less (but no less than 6"), in game, any cruiser with 8" guns or larger that is not classed as a Battleship (because the game has no Battlecruiser class)

CL, Light Cruiser: Any cruiser with 6" guns or below

CC: Cruiser, Capital, Battlecruisers a few examples in game, some disputed

'CB': Cruiser, Large (Big), a made up hull symbol for the Alaskas to justify the expenditure for a Battlecruiser, a capital ship, by calling it something that makes it a 'normal' cruiser

DD, Destroyer

CV, 'Fleet Carrier'

CVL, 'Light Carrier'

CVE 'Escort Carrier' (we used to have 1 but it was removed for the foreseeable future)

CVA, 'Carrier Attack' Midway's formal hull symbol

SS: Submarine/Attack Submarine (GP subs with medium range)

SF: Fleet Submarine, larger boats with extended range (Type IX's, Gatos, ect)

SC: Submarine, Cruiser, subs armed with LARGE deck guns (had one in a Halloween mode a year ago)

At Tier one you have an odd mixture of AC (auxiliary cruiser), FF (Frigates), PG (Patrol Gunboat), and the like but given how Tier 1 is handled they are rarely referenced so specifically.

The USN was very bureaucratic at this time, and thus had a VERY particular system for all ships, not just for hull classifications, but naming, and it is very effective if not boring, that all ships with State names are Battleships, Large cities, Heavy Cruisers, small cities/towns, Light Cruisers, Battle names from history, Carriers, Admirals/Sailors/Soldiers names for Destroyers, fish/sea creature names, Submarines. There were exceptions, like Enterprise for Carriers and a few cruisers iirc named for people, but as a general rule, for american ships, you can easily identify at a glance by the name alone of what type of ship it is. Royal Navy is similar, but requires a great deal more knowledge of history as what kinds of ships carry what kinds of names based on what fleet it is to serve in; for example 'Warspite' is typically reserved for a Fleet Flagship Capital ship, Indefatigable is for a Fleet Frigate/Cruiser/Fleet Carrier.

There are other Navy's that have used sort of similar classifications, (RN uses C for cruisers, Pennants for Battleships (and sometimes Cruisers, depends on the type and year), D for destroyers, F for frigates (essentially a DE)) but the USN is very familiar worldwide and an effective shorthand. Older, non-american books sometimes use the 'linguistic' abbreviations, such as BC for Battlecruiser, [edited] for Battleship, LC for Light Cruiser, ect, but that fell out of favour in much of academia by the mid 60's/late 70's and wasn't particularly common to start as British academics tend to shy from abbreviations in general and would most often write out the full name instead or refer to the ships by name.

6 minutes ago, yashma said:

The strange thing is people frequently abandon this classification system for battlecruiser (CC) and just resort to a simple abbreviation (BC)


Yes, we call those people morons.

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1 hour ago, mobryan said:

Nobbie needs to find his CAPLOCK key first...

A quick rundown:

BB - Battleship

CV-Aircraft Carrier

CA/CL- Heavy and Light cruisers, often applied generically to any cruiser

DD- Destroyer

Sub- The name which shall not be spoken

 

 

Matt

Hey Matt did the CAPS get your attention?

 

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Yo, Jarhead, here is another list of dang near all the ship abbreviations, plus.

https://www.history.navy.mil/content/history/nhhc/research/histories/ship-histories/abbreviations.html#c

Didn't you get all this lingo while at sea? Just how much sea time do you have?

Semper Fi...(another old Marine)

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IKR. i was stationed at Kaneohe Bay Oahu. MCAS. but never went on float. lol MOS 1371. MABS 31 Combat Engineer. 78/81. no grunt in me though. Solid Wing support. F4's and Harriers

Thanx for the help. o7 bro..

 

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1 hour ago, JaysUsedBoatParts said:

Why isnt 

Light Cruiser  LC

Heavy Cruiser HC

Aircraft Carrier  AC

Because ... Military ... as we used to say, "There's the Right Way, the Wrong Way and the Army Way"

e.g. Blanket, Wool, Army Green, 1 ea

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1 hour ago, JaysUsedBoatParts said:

Why isnt 

Light Cruiser  LC

Heavy Cruiser HC

Aircraft Carrier  AC

For the same reason that we park on a driveway and drive on a parkway.

Language can be a funny thing :-)

 

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4 minutes ago, DocWalker said:

e.g. Blanket, Wool, Army Green, 1 ea 

They stopped calling it a Green Girl?

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2 minutes ago, DocWalker said:

 

Because ... Military ... as we used to say, "There's the Right Way, the Wrong Way and the Army Way"

e.g. Blanket, Wool, Army Green, 1 ea

You have your Army dogs , Navy squids and Air Force fly boy's. And the few and the proud... Guess. There absolutely the best.

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But there are more....I have trouble keeping up.

Like Captain skills PM= Preventive Maintenance,  LS=Last Stand and  IFHE=Inertial Fuse High Exlosive. Ship modules SGMod1 =Steering Gears Mod 1. Then there is gameplay YOLO = You Only Have One life (a ship suicide attack) 

I have to guess sometimes or look them up too, if I know where to look.

The keystroke list is not complete either. But it is like other things you have to figure out the language as you go.

And it's not just this game it's 21 st, and earlier, century  life.

For example 

Like RN (not Royal Navy as here but Round Nose) HP, RNFP, SWC, HBWC, JHC. I f you are wondering those are bullet types.

It is a problem that you have to learn as you go or use this forum and the helpful people here.:Smile_honoring:

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18 minutes ago, GrayPanther2018 said:

YOLO = You Only Have One life (a ship suicide attack) 

Just to be that guy,  the meaning is right but the abbreviation is: 

YOLO =  You Only Live Once 

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8 minutes ago, eviltane said:

Just to be that guy,  the meaning is right but the abbreviation is: 

YOLO =  You Only Live Once 

See, I said ( or did I?) it can be hard to keep up with all of it.:Smile_facepalm::Smile_honoring:

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1 hour ago, NoobieDude said:

You have your Army dogs , Navy squids and Air Force fly boy's. And the few and the proud... Guess. There absolutely the best.

Wait, I thought they were just Navy recruits who couldn't figure out how to use a scraper, or silverware.

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4 hours ago, JaysUsedBoatParts said:

Why isnt 

Light Cruiser  LC

Heavy Cruiser HC

Aircraft Carrier  AC

Ask the US Navy lol.

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3 hours ago, eviltane said:

Just to be that guy,  the meaning is right but the abbreviation is: 

YOLO =  You Only Live Once 

It's also meant to rhyme with (and almost spelled the same as) SOLO.  It's a solo suicide attack.  Combines multiple concepts in one four letter word.  Also, it's sometimes not technically a suicide attack, but someone attempting to do something alone that nine times out of ten has the same result as a suicide attack.  Occasionally, yolos are tactically (or strategically) sound.  The DD that yolos into an unopposed cap, captures it, and gets out alive.  It's usually used in a negative context, but can (on occasion) be positive.  Context is usually sufficient to figure it out.

Examples:

"Our BB yolo'd up the middle, got focused, and died early".

"Please don't yolo to C".

"Got a Lemming west and a yolo east".  [i..e, 11 going west, one going east]

 

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