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Is WG ever going to bother factoring radar into MM?

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Because one team having radar and the other team having none gives the team with radar a huge advantage.

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The advantage is huge only if the number of radar is low. Once you get five or six radar ships in the match, its a tiny advantage.

I collected two large data sets on this.

Theres no excuse for not balancing it in Ranked. People are already prepared to wait.

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Spreadsheet says there's no significant difference in WR between a team with radar vs. a team with no radar.

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28 minutes ago, Navalpride33 said:

In short, no...

 

This, because they like unbalanced matches which end quickly.

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5 minutes ago, Umikami said:

This, because they like unbalanced matches which end quickly.

 Not really, it will only open up Pandora's box. MM is ok, old timers who can remember the old MM rules will tell you... This MM is better....

MM is not the problem... People population who play OP/over capable ship, IS the root issue...

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6 hours ago, Zaydin said:

Because one team having radar and the other team having none gives the team with radar a huge advantage.

 

6 hours ago, GhostSwordsman said:

Spreadsheet says there's no significant difference in WR between a team with radar vs. a team with no radar.

WG has said that RADAR or no RADAR on a side has no significant difference either in the WR they have seen.

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7 hours ago, Umikami said:

This, because they like unbalanced matches which end quickly.

This is the correct answer !  Well said.......  Imagine if they assumed having radar = skill.......   Imagine the wait times till they find "equivalency".........ow,  Well said.

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11 hours ago, Zaydin said:

Because one team having radar and the other team having none gives the team with radar a huge advantage.

After CVs, radar and everything else seemed irrelevant … 

So, short answer is "no" :)

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21 minutes ago, Ducky_shot said:

I want mm balanced with spotter planes and hydro too please. 

No smoke?

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Radar is powerful, but that's built into each ships power level.

Other ships have benefits that radar ships don't that make them equal in power level.

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5 hours ago, Kizarvexis said:

WG has said that RADAR or no RADAR on a side has no significant difference either in the WR they have seen.

I'll agree with their statement.  Hundreds of games in a non Radar ship.  Asking for a teammate to activate their Radar consumable, falls on deaf ears.  The only times those players that do activate them, are when they visually see those red triangles coming towards them.  By then it is too late of course (optimal window for offensive radar use is negated).  Having said that.  The games that I do find enjoyment, even with a loss.  Are the ones that do display good communication amongst teammates, especially with ships which aren't afraid to use their consumables for the team.

 

It's all down to human error/choice/use.  Not how many tools that we have in our pockets.  

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I posit that most players that are playing right now just don't know how to play around radar or not having radar.
Therefore it doesn't really matter if there is a radar advantage/disadvantage.

 

Having said that, I think all currently radar-less T6+ cruisers should get 8km radar in a separate slot. :CA:

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4 hours ago, DrHolmes52 said:

No smoke?

If radar is balanced, it's unnecessary. Smoke would then be useless. /s

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16 hours ago, Navalpride33 said:

 Not really

Yeah, really; and they have said so many, many times.

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