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Random Thoughts from Deep R'lyeh: the Leander Test.

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Back when I was first a noob, the North Cape campaign was the wall against which I broke. All I had to do it with were a Leander and an Emerald, because I superspecialised in British CL too much.

Now TECHNICALLY it was possible to do it all with a Leander, but I was not good enough to mine either High Caliber or Dreadnought with it (which is actually possible, because the Leander has a heal) and all the other missions in one of the phases were not accessible to British cruisers IIRC. So I failed, learned, and diversified my fleet. 

So just for fun, I thought it would be interesting to go back and have a look at whether this anniversary event is possible with only a Leander.

Directive list is here: https://forum.worldofwarships.com/topic/200507-psa-anniversary-088-directives/

DIRECTIVE 1: There are eight tasks that are technically achievable in a Leander. One of them, setting 30 fires, requires an inordinate amount of YOLOing in co-op and praying that your secondaries get it done, but it is technically possible.

DIRECTIVE 2: There are seven tasks (the minimum for progression) which are technically achievable in a Leander. However, one of them involves getting 1000 secondary battery hits over any number of battles. Tiresome to the extreme, unless your family owns the Red Bull factory and you have the world's longest straw. It's "only" 147 secondary hits a night for an entire week, which breaks the task down into manageable chunks, but it still requires a determined player.

DIRECTIVE 3: This is the brick wall. There are only SIX tasks that are achievable in a Leander, because three of them are exclusively for BB, DD or CV and two others are for non-British ships. So the event fails the Leander test at this point.

DIRECTIVE 4: The glorious irony is that EIGHT of the tasks here can be completed in a Leander.

 

When I look back at North Cape, I realise I should probably have spent the 50K XP I had won in a supercontainer to help me get the Iron Duke and run a battleship damage grind past the bottleneck I encountered. Oddly enough, that is exactly what 2017-vintage me would have to do now. The difference is that after four months in the game NOW, our "only a Leander" newbie would possibly have enough coal to get himself an Okt Rev or an Aigle and bypass the Directive 3 bottleneck with the BB or DD damage grind.

 

Of course since choosing a cruiser with which you can win Dreadnought medals at Tier 6 is no longer an issue here, one could choose a more suitable T6 cruiser - say, the Nurnberg (more torpedoes in more launchers; HE shells for starting fires) which would make some of the tasks easier to do. But even then, Directive 3 is the bottleneck.

 

In fact, Directive 3 is an ABSOLUTE barrier to doing this event with ANY one ship all by itself. No matter how good you are, how long you play or how hard you try, you need at least two T5+ ships in any of UK, US or Commonwealth or at least two ship types (out of BB, Cruiser, DD, CV) at T5+ to do enough missions to pass through to directive 4 and finish the event. And I think that's actually quite fair, especially with at least one T5 and at least one T6 premium available for free if you have enough coal, with XP flags and camos being tossed out like candy, and with T5 ships being really not all that hard to grind to any more.

 

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I have learned a lot from your posts on maximizing playing efficiency and am reaching the same conclusions. Early in my playing I focused too much on US DDs. But in order to fully participate in most of the events, you really need a diverse port with at least some ships from all of the lines.

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Just now, RainbowFartingUnicorn said:

I have learned a lot from your posts on maximizing playing efficiency 

Thank you.

It breaks down for the absolutely FTP crowd because they quickly run out of free port slots. I got quite a few from cash crates and the odd supercontainer, but it was never enough - and ultimately that is what probably would have driven me to spend at least a small amount of money on WOWS if nothing else did.

I think it would be interesting to see them being sold for coal, but I have a funny feeling that port slots are where a lot of doubloons get spent. What is the fair price for a port slot? IMHO it's 15,000 coal, which is what it will cost you for a port slot if you buy and then dismiss the Charleston. The thing I'm not willing to try is whether you can then get her back for coal again once you have dumped her.

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1 minute ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

Thank you.

It breaks down for the absolutely FTP crowd because they quickly run out of free port slots. I got quite a few from cash crates and the odd supercontainer, but it was never enough - and ultimately that is what probably would have driven me to spend at least a small amount of money on WOWS if nothing else did.

I think it would be interesting to see them being sold for coal, but I have a funny feeling that port slots are where a lot of doubloons get spent. What is the fair price for a port slot? IMHO it's 15,000 coal, which is what it will cost you for a port slot if you buy and then dismiss the Charleston. The thing I'm not willing to try is whether you can then get her back for coal again once you have dumped her.

I'd kind of like to put together a guide for maximizing efficiency as a free player or one with minimum spending with tips like that. Port slots are really hindering me, too. 

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7 minutes ago, RainbowFartingUnicorn said:

I'd kind of like to put together a guide for maximizing efficiency as a free player or one with minimum spending with tips like that. Port slots are really hindering me, too. 

The trick is being able to wait until they are unholy cheap - I've seen them go for as little as 75 each at Christmas, but apart from that 100 is the best you'll see.

I have about 5000 free doubloons ATM; most of it was for winning the USS Hill in a YouTube competition after I'd ground her out in-game, and the rest was either blind luck in various containers or trading in my French tokens for them. Look out for various CC's and streamers giving away the possibility to win a ship. If it's one you perchance already have, you can accumulate a tidy amount of free dubs. The amount of stuff I've won from @Lord_Zath is obscene, but it came from regular participation in his analysis stream (sending in replays and being willing to get roasted live on air a bunch of times) and enough random strangers liking some of the stuff I'd sent him for RNGesus to do the rest - you really do get what you give in this game.

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1 hour ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

The trick is being able to wait until they are unholy cheap - I've seen them go for as little as 75 each at Christmas, but apart from that 100 is the best you'll see.

I have about 5000 free doubloons ATM; most of it was for winning the USS Hill in a YouTube competition after I'd ground her out in-game, and the rest was either blind luck in various containers or trading in my French tokens for them. Look out for various CC's and streamers giving away the possibility to win a ship. If it's one you perchance already have, you can accumulate a tidy amount of free dubs. The amount of stuff I've won from @Lord_Zath is obscene, but it came from regular participation in his analysis stream (sending in replays and being willing to get roasted live on air a bunch of times) and enough random strangers liking some of the stuff I'd sent him for RNGesus to do the rest - you really do get what you give in this game.

If nothing else, leaving a stream on in the background is a good way to get free game items while working - the Twitch containers and mission drops are nice, even if I've never gotten an epic drop, and I won a CC crate off of AshleyakaAshley's stream once. 

Always remembering to participate in the weekly forum contest and any Wargaming site contests is also really important. I've never won the forum contest, but it's good for stocking up on camos. I did win a Bayard and a Siroco from a Wargaming contest, though, which was amazing.

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On 9/24/2019 at 10:56 AM, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

 The trick is being able to wait until they are unholy cheap - I've seen them go for as little as 75 each at Christmas, but apart from that 100 is the best you'll see.

I have about 5000 free doubloons ATM; most of it was for winning the USS Hill in a YouTube competition after I'd ground her out in-game, and the rest was either blind luck in various containers or trading in my French tokens for them. Look out for various CC's and streamers giving away the possibility to win a ship. If it's one you perchance already have, you can accumulate a tidy amount of free dubs. The amount of stuff I've won from @Lord_Zath is obscene, but it came from regular participation in his analysis stream (sending in replays and being willing to get roasted live on air a bunch of times) and enough random strangers liking some of the stuff I'd sent him for RNGesus to do the rest - you really do get what you give in this game.

Yep you've won a lot but I feel you've gained much more in game knowledge and ability :)

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On 9/26/2019 at 1:09 PM, Lord_Zath said:

Yep you've won a lot but I feel you've gained much more in game knowledge and ability :)

Thank you. *blushes* Although I am inclined to agree with you, given the number of games I've sent you more recently that are co-op exhibition games rather than requests for help. And that's mostly to give brand new players a look at a commentated game in a low-tier ship with a low-tier captain so they have something to relate to - especially if it's a ship that isn't featured much. It goes without saying, for example, that I don't need help to drive a Tier 3 destroyer in co-op - but if watching me do it helps someone who's in the same place I was two years ago, that can't be a bad thing.

And like you yourself once said, it's a shame to throw away all the work the devs put into the low tiers in any line just because you got lucky with an RNGesus box.

 

RETURNING TO THE TOPIC OF THIS THREAD, I had a look at the PTS preview of the Italian tasks, and if they're reflected accurately in live-server requirements then I think this one does actually pass the Leander test. Now that doesn't mean you shouldn't diversify - but it DOES mean that if one lowly T5 or T6 cruiser or destroyer is all you have, you can still get by if you work your guts out.

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On 9/28/2019 at 6:24 PM, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

RETURNING TO THE TOPIC OF THIS THREAD, I had a look at the PTS preview of the Italian tasks, and if they're reflected accurately in live-server requirements then I think this one does actually pass the Leander test.

Update: not any more. Per the patch notes, the fourth directive will require eight tasks completed, which means you really do need to have at least one cruiser, destroyer and battleship at T5 or above. 

@Bualar @Femennenly Please pass on my regards to Wargaming for including this information in advance, so we know what is coming.

At this time, I would like to reiterate my request for the directive tasks and their prizes to be posted on the main page once the patch drops, rather than only being available in-game.

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18 hours ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

 

@Bualar @Femennenly Please pass on my regards to Wargaming for including this information in advance, so we know what is coming.

At this time, I would like to reiterate my request for the directive tasks and their prizes to be posted on the main page once the patch drops, rather than only being available in-game.

You mean on the forum as a separate thread or what? Because if you are speaking about portal then it's not possible :(

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1 hour ago, Bualar said:

You mean on the forum as a separate thread or what? Because if you are speaking about portal then it's not possible :(

If it's not possible on the portal, then a separate pinned, locked thread would be nice.

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On 9/24/2019 at 5:48 PM, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

Thank you.

It breaks down for the absolutely FTP crowd because they quickly run out of free port slots. I got quite a few from cash crates and the odd supercontainer, but it was never enough - and ultimately that is what probably would have driven me to spend at least a small amount of money on WOWS if nothing else did.

I think it would be interesting to see them being sold for coal, but I have a funny feeling that port slots are where a lot of doubloons get spent. What is the fair price for a port slot? IMHO it's 15,000 coal, which is what it will cost you for a port slot if you buy and then dismiss the Charleston. The thing I'm not willing to try is whether you can then get her back for coal again once you have dumped her.

They are already sold for coal, as you say 1poert slot costs 15k coal - credit benefit of selling charleston.

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Very enjoyable.  I truly enjoy playing the Leander, as it is my preferred Tier 6 CL.  Your comments on its weakness v.s. strengths are very valid for objective/situational needs for accomplishments.

I am a FTP out of financial limitations as I am retired.  What you say is very true.  Earning or purchasing port slots to expand your fleet is critical to enjoying the depth of the game experience.  Having a Premium account adds greatly to that experience as it adds more experience and silver to your mission rewards.  It also allows a comfortable grind up to and past Tier 8. 

The wisdom to expand your fleet to accomplish objectives for multiple mission tasks is critical.  To be stuck in just one mode ("I only play DD's" for example) will probably make success in those objectives impossible.  Enjoy the depth of the game by playing numerous classes, if not all of them.  Expand your fleet by getting more port slots.  Be careful in your choices for what ships to keep or sell.  I enjoy low, medium and hi tier ships and games. 

Thank you for your post.

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