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Even as a collector, I gave up buying these latest overpriced paper ships.

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No.

ASW isn't a battleship's job. It's the job of a destroyer, light cruiser, or specialised ASW aircraft.

If I were you, I'd pipe down until exact details of ASW sensors and weapons have been made official.

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1 minute ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

 

ASW isn't a battleship's job. It's the job of a destroyer, light cruiser, or specialised ASW aircraft.

If I were you, I'd pipe down until exact details of ASW sensors and weapons have been made official.

I have nothing to lose.

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1 minute ago, Wows_Nightly_News said:

I have nothing to lose.

Except for the egg you could be wiping off your face.

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It really doesn't matter because they'd rather not even try to sell me new premium BBs or cruisers since instead of putting them up for sale they're putting them behind research bureau super-grind wall.

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1 minute ago, Wows_Nightly_News said:

If I'm wrong I can just walk away.

Didn't you already?

As for the subject of this thread, we don't even know how much ASW will be required. Wait until submarine mechanics are more set / revealed.

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For BB's, Bismarck and Tirpitz was the only ones that comes to mind that had Sonar, but plans to put depth charges on them were canned after it was found out that they turned so poorly it was hopeless.

The Italians did actually put depth charges on Littorio, and pulled them back off when they figured out it was a stupid idea.

Most cruisers aren't much better, actual ASW weapons are rare on light cruisers that weren't overgrown destroyer leaders, so there's not even that.

If I had to bet, at launch, the only way to sink a submarine will be on the surface, and they will absorb far more punishment than they have any right to. It will be a while for most DD's to get Hydro, because at the moment it's a national perk for some fleets. I don't see this ending well.

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22 minutes ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

No.

ASW isn't a battleship's job. It's the job of a destroyer, light cruiser, or specialised ASW aircraft.

If I were you, I'd pipe down until exact details of ASW sensors and weapons have been made official.

It isn't a subs job to engage warships in the middle of a gunfight either.

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2 minutes ago, monpetitloup said:

back already? wasn't you done?

I couldn't stay away from the community with the sub announcement, but yah done with the game. it's difficult to walk away from something after four years.

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2 minutes ago, Wows_Nightly_News said:

I couldn't stay away from the community with the sub announcement, but yah done with the game. it's difficult to walk away from something after four years.

i hear you. are you atleast enjoyig yourself more now than before?

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21 minutes ago, Wows_Nightly_News said:

I couldn't stay away from the community with the sub announcement, but yah done with the game.

So you do not play the game, yet you are trying to dissuade other people from buying ships and minding their own business based off of a personal assumption that has not even been announced yet?

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7 minutes ago, _1204_ said:

So you do not play the game, yet you are trying to dissuade other people from buying ships and minding their own business based off of a personal assumption that has not even been announced yet?

Yes. 

But I would like to add that since nobody knows anything about subs yet nobody can also say if any premium will be relevant in the future. 

Though Hydro is probably the safest bet. 

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Real world & Warships world are totally different. A BB did not sail without a protecting screen of DD's & cruisers. These screening ships provided the ASW. Aircraft were very good in the role of ASW. The CVE's help win the battle of the Atlantic, closing the gap between the USA & Britain  were land base planes could not patrol.

While subs in the era this game is set did sink a few warships their main purpose was to cut supply lines. Germany almost succeed in cutting off Britain and the Allies did starve Japan and sunk a number of troops ships. 

Unless there is a huge change subs will be fighting other warships, not conveys. How WG manages this is unknown.  

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1 hour ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

No.

ASW isn't a battleship's job. It's the job of a destroyer, light cruiser, or specialised ASW aircraft.

If I were you, I'd pipe down until exact details of ASW sensors and weapons have been made official.

No.

No ship should be helpless against any other ship it can face. 

There's already a problem with certain ships being effectively helpless against enemy aircraft despite encountering them in the game, this doesn't need to be compounded.  

If we wait until it's announced to raise these red flags, it will be far too late, WG is completely lost in the "sunk cost fallacy", as they've shown over and over again. 

And before it gets said, "teamwork" doesn't mean a thing in WOWS, never has, never will.  You cannot count on the other players in green to do more than avoid shooting you (mostly). 

 

42 minutes ago, BrushWolf said:

It isn't a subs job to engage warships in the middle of a gunfight either.

Exactly. 

If WG insists on cramming subs where they don't belong, then they need to give all ships the ability to defend themselves against subs. 

 

 

 

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Just guessing, of course but they will probably work similar to the terror of the deep event; DDs will have depth charges. All other will need to haul [edited]and be mindful that they are out there

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1 minute ago, KilljoyCutter said:

No.

No ship should be helpless against any other ship it can face. 

There's already a problem with certain ships being effectively helpless against enemy aircraft despite encountering them in the game, this doesn't need to be compounded.  

If we wait until it's announced to raise these red flags, it will be far too late, WG is completely lost in the "sunk cost fallacy", as they've shown over and over again. 

And before it gets said, "teamwork" doesn't mean a thing in WOWS, never has, never will.  You cannot count on the other players in green to do more than avoid shooting you (mostly). 

 

Exactly. 

If WG insists on cramming subs where they don't belong, then they need to give all ships the ability to defend themselves against subs. 

 

 

 

Being helpless against planes is mostly a low to middle tier, 3, 4, 5, issue as once you get to tier 6, 7, or 8 the AA was pretty nasty even before 8.5 gave it a huge buff. Much of the feeling of helplessness is from the false expectation that your AA failed if any planes survive and that is from the RTS days where CV's could nuke pretty much every ship in the game in a single pass. Now they chip away with weak weapons and take high plane losses.

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58 minutes ago, Lert said:

As for the subject of this thread, we don't even know how much ASW will be required. Wait until submarine mechanics are more set / revealed.

I couldn't agree more.

The OP is dangerously close to ban material here.  Personally, I'd have no problem if the OP was reminding people to think carefully about their purchases when big changes to the game are inbound.  But that isn't what is happening.  No, this guy is telling people to put financial pressure on WG and demand changes over mechanics that haven't even been announced yet.  If WG comes down on him, well, he deserves it. 

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I assume ASW really won't be needed, If they do anything like Steel Ocean the under water timer will be so short BBs will be hitting you for full damage once on surface. Its going to be hilarious how they make this work. CV rework 3.0!

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1 hour ago, Wows_Nightly_News said:

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That way you don't have to make an angry "give me my money back" posts.

You should post more please.

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