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So I’m done for this season as I won’t be able to play tonight.  Achieved rank 2 but slid back to 3 last night.  Disappointed about not ranking out but that is what a 2 week vacation in the middle of the season will do.  

Anyway, in a long ago thread I ranted about CVs and rentals in ranked battles.  I have to say I was largely wrong about CVs and was definitely right about rentals.

On CVs, I found them to mostly be a nuisance, even when playing a DD, and not absolutely terrible that I thought they would be.  If AA sectoring was selected and with a catapult fighter up, even as a Zao, I could mitigate most damage and carry on.  I even shot down over 40 planes in one battle with only one group of those being a fighter squadron.  CVs excelled at cleanup at end game and in saving stars.  If you were in a battle as a DD with a CV, because of XP calculations and the ability of the CV to farm meaningless damage, you had essentially ZERO chance at saving a star.

On rentals, I learned quickly to dread the brackets of doom in the ship lineup screen.  Whoever had a larger number of brackets definitely had a rougher time in the game. You definitely had those who had other TX ships and were only playing these as experiments - they were more often in the winning 35% for sure.  Those truly playing TX in rentals for the first time seemed to not do so well and typically hurt their team.  I saw lots of questionable play by brackets (yes, others too) and I wouldn’t want them in future seasons.  Rentals DO NOT belong in THIS competitive mode.  They’re fine for CB because you are agreeing to it as a team if they’re used.  You don’t get that luxury in ranked.

TL; DR:  CVs: thankfully, not doomsday bringers, but instead were save a star specialists.  Rentals: 65% chance of losing if on your team.

 

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So, everything is rosy and cheeky as long as you're on the winning side and not on the losing end of things.... With that outlook/perspective... I have to disagree with you...

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I don't know at 1st week when I got to R5 and all the top dog CVs drivers were there CVs did make a difference

 Of course after they ranked out and just the average Joe was doing CV half of them were clueless and a waste of space

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25 minutes ago, Navalpride33 said:

So, everything is rosy and cheeky as long as you're on the winning side and not on the losing end of things.... With that outlook/perspective... I have to disagree with you...

I think the OP was more concerned about MM deciding the match before the opening bell by which team got more rentals and that the CV was probably going to get the save-a-star on the losing side.

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29 minutes ago, Navalpride33 said:

So, everything is rosy and cheeky as long as you're on the winning side and not on the losing end of things.... With that outlook/perspective... I have to disagree with you...

Seen this in Reddit

 

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35 minutes ago, TheCompGuy25 said:

So I’m done for this season as I won’t be able to play tonight.  Achieved rank 2 but slid back to 3 last night.  Disappointed about not ranking out but that is what a 2 week vacation in the middle of the season will do.

 

It seems highly likely the good CV players ranked out while you were on vacation thanks to the save a star mechanic.

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4 minutes ago, Capt_Ahab1776 said:

Seen this in Reddit

Yup... You got the premise of my post. I dont agree with the OP's perspective of its only annoying/bad if I lose.

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Ranked is garbage until they get rid of the losing star system. Got enough steel to get what I want won't bother with it again. Too bad the format is fun but the grind and matchmaking are cancer.

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45 minutes ago, TheCompGuy25 said:

If you were in a battle as a DD with a CV, because of XP calculations and the ability of the CV to farm meaningless damage, you had essentially ZERO chance at saving a star.

I disagree. If a CV wasnt teying to save a star by dropping fighters, corralling enemies, and spotting you cant save a star. I played them a lot at first but the more into team play I was the less experience I got. However if i did damage farm I could save a star. More often than not, Battleships seemed to save stars in my games as CV as they would be in the rear saving health and then nuking nearly dead enemies at the end of the match in a desperate attempt to save a star.

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1 minute ago, Stand_Alone97 said:

Too bad the format is fun but the grind and matchmaking are cancer.

Yes.  I really like the 7 ships.  And baby ranked T 5 was that 5 or 6 ships?  That was a lot of fun and not as soul suckingly depraved as regular ranked.

But I keep coming back to ranked.  Got to T 4 this season but stopped with 4 or 5 days to go.  It just wasn't fun after a while, and I already work so...

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Ranks get worse every year. I quit at rank 10, no need to waste my time trying to win a little steel. This time around WG found a way to crank it up  5 notches by allowing anyone with a tier 8 prem get a t10 rental. Large amount of rental ships on your team is the kiss of death.

If you get a chance watch NoZoupForYou video below. He talks about how WG is pushing all these new gimmicks and high tier premium ships to increase their bottom line and pissing off the player base at the same time.

 

 

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31 minutes ago, silverdahc said:

I don't know at 1st week when I got to R5 and all the top dog CVs drivers were there CVs did make a difference

 Of course after they ranked out and just the average Joe was doing CV half of them were clueless and a waste of space

Agreed.  Week one I stopped at 10 because it was just about impossible to go forward and save stars......  Too much of whom won was either luck or CV Captains....  That's not my concept of balance.....

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6 minutes ago, Asym_KS said:

Agreed.  Week one I stopped at 10 because it was just about impossible to go forward and save stars......  Too much of whom won was either luck or CV Captains....  That's not my concept of balance.....

 Yeah after ranked test season with CVs I think they realized there's a lot more work that needs to be done before they could be put into competitive play

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49 minutes ago, Capt_Ahab1776 said:

Seen this in Reddit

 

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If only that were true. In the past few days I’ve had BB players ranting about my DD play, often in wins. I especially liked the rage about “don’t know how to Shima go to Coop” in a game where I had 2 solo caps, lots of spotting damage, and sank a Des Moines and a Henri. While being ranted at by dead Kurfurst player. Top XP in a loss ...

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1 minute ago, Landing_Skipper said:

If only that were true. In the past few days I’ve had BB players ranting about my DD play, often in wins. I especially liked the rage about “don’t know how to Shima go to Coop” in a game where I had 2 solo caps, lots of spotting damage, and sank a Des Moines and a Henri. While being ranted at by dead Kurfurst player. Top XP in a loss ...

lol, been there. I don't own a Shimakaze but I'd say any DD captain whose over triple digit games under their belt has heard it. Congratulations on your good game.

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Ranked really seems like the most fun playmode. Previously played the tier 8 ranked and the sprints. I played a rental Shima this season as I'm only up to T8 in the tech trees but i've done pretty well. The rental feature for me was awesome and let me have a go at being on par with the T10 ships I ussually play against anyway but from the disadvantage of being low tiered and with 7 per side there are better opportunities to contribute and get those 2000 base XP games that are so elusive in randoms. I'm not certain of the elitist attitudes a lot of T10 players have but ranked really seems easier and more fun than randoms. Here's to the next ranked sprint series and getting to rock out in my favorite game tier! Thanks wargaming for an awesome experience.

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3 hours ago, TheCompGuy25 said:

So I’m done for this season as I won’t be able to play tonight.  Achieved rank 2 but slid back to 3 last night.  Disappointed about not ranking out but that is what a 2 week vacation in the middle of the season will do.  

Anyway, in a long ago thread I ranted about CVs and rentals in ranked battles.  I have to say I was largely wrong about CVs and was definitely right about rentals.

On CVs, I found them to mostly be a nuisance, even when playing a DD, and not absolutely terrible that I thought they would be.  If AA sectoring was selected and with a catapult fighter up, even as a Zao, I could mitigate most damage and carry on.  I even shot down over 40 planes in one battle with only one group of those being a fighter squadron.  CVs excelled at cleanup at end game and in saving stars.  If you were in a battle as a DD with a CV, because of XP calculations and the ability of the CV to farm meaningless damage, you had essentially ZERO chance at saving a star.

On rentals, I learned quickly to dread the brackets of doom in the ship lineup screen.  Whoever had a larger number of brackets definitely had a rougher time in the game. You definitely had those who had other TX ships and were only playing these as experiments - they were more often in the winning 35% for sure.  Those truly playing TX in rentals for the first time seemed to not do so well and typically hurt their team.  I saw lots of questionable play by brackets (yes, others too) and I wouldn’t want them in future seasons.  Rentals DO NOT belong in THIS competitive mode.  They’re fine for CB because you are agreeing to it as a team if they’re used.  You don’t get that luxury in ranked.

TL; DR:  CVs: thankfully, not doomsday bringers, but instead were save a star specialists.  Rentals: 65% chance of losing if on your team.

 

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Sooo can we all get off the hate train now?

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2 hours ago, STINKWEED_ said:

Ranks get worse every year. I quit at rank 10, no need to waste my time trying to win a little steel. This time around WG found a way to crank it up  5 notches by allowing anyone with a tier 8 prem get a t10 rental. Large amount of rental ships on your team is the kiss of death.

If you get a chance watch NoZoupForYou video below. He talks about how WG is pushing all these new gimmicks and high tier premium ships to increase their bottom line and pissing off the player base at the same time.

 

 

Zouos vid was great. Over half you t8 games are in t10 so what's the big deal?

What WG should have dobe was take the bracket off. Then it would have been the same person thats in every rank season that loses it for every team.

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