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solo T7 just because I am in deivision with unpgraded lex? seriously? what happened to MM +-2?

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You are in a division with an Lexington

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4 minutes ago, Nembrot said:

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solo T7 just because I am in deivision with unpgraded lex? seriously? what happened to MM +-2?

If you queue up a tier 7 in a division with a tier 8, you can be dragged into a tier 10 battle. The MM considers the highest tier ship in a division which can result in  +3/-1 match making in your situation.

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you got lucky.

could have been a lot more TXs in that battle.

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If you division up with a teammate  + or - of your tier.. Then MM of + or - 2 dont apply

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Just now, Navalpride33 said:

If you division up with a teammate  + or - of your tier.. Then MM of + or - 2 dont apply

Then add that it's a CV.

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You are supposed to bring a tier 9 with a tier 8 CV to minimize the chances of seeing a tier 10 game, or a tier 7 with a tier 6 CV to never see a tier 9 game.

You did it backwards.

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From the World of Warships Wiki https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Battle_Mechanics_(WoWS)

 

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"Divisions of up to three ships can be created. Currently divisions can only have one carrier (and a random team can have no more than two Carriers). As of patch 0.5.10, divisions are restricted to a one tier spread. A division with a Tier VI ship, for example, could include ships of Tier V and Tier VI, or Tier VI and Tier VII. Tier V, VI, and VII ships are not allowed in the same division at the same time."

"Previously, there were no restrictions on division tiers, leading to "fail divisions" of high tier ships (such as Tier IX or X) divisioned with low tier ships (Tier I or II)."

"When placing divisions in a match, Match Maker will only consider the highest tier ship's Match Making tier range for purposes of tier placement. For example, a Tier 5's normal Match Making is +2/-1, so it will normally only see Tier 4 through Tier 7 ships in matches. Similarly, a Tier 6's normal Match Making is also +2/-1, so it will normally only see Tier 5 through Tier 8 ships in matches. When divisioned with ships of the same tier, the division will see the normal Match Making for that tier. For example, a division of only Tier 5s will only see matches with Tier 4 to Tier 7 ships. A division of only Tier 6s will only see matches with ships from Tier 5 to Tier 8."

"However, when a division is made up of ships of unequal tier, only the top tier ship's tier range will be considered. Thus, let us say the Tier 5 and Tier 6 above form a division. Match Maker will only consider the Tier 6's tier spread. The Tier 6 can see Tier 8 matches, so the Tier 5 in the division with it will now also be subject to seeing Tier 8 matches where it normally would only be able to see Tier 7s max. This results in an effective +3/-1 Match Making spread for the Tier 5 when divisioned with a Tier 6. This is commonly called a "fail division" because this puts the lower tier ship in a battle tier they normally cannot see."

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1 minute ago, Vangm94 said:

Then add that it's a CV.

Tried to stat pad murdering planes.... MM working as intended, stat pad denied

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1 minute ago, MaxL_1023 said:

You are supposed to bring a tier 9 with a tier 8 CV to minimize the chances of seeing a tier 10 game, or a tier 7 with a tier 6 CV to never see a tier 9 game.

You did it backwards.

However, if another fail division is doing the same thing as your division ques up all bets are off.

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3+- MM was a thing back in CBT

Alot of things are just wrong with this MM.

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That's what you get for trying to fail div.

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One thing is certain, the red team was doing the same... The only way an ATL will see tie 10 match is joining a tier 8 teammate in a division.

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3 minutes ago, Shigure_DD said:

3+- MM was a thing back in CBT

Alot of things are just wrong with this MM.

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Good ol days, back when no one reversed and maps were unbalanced. I miss those days.

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1 minute ago, Shigure_DD said:

3+- MM was a thing back in CBT

Alot of things are just wrong with this MM.

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remember when one team could have more ships than the other?

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1 minute ago, Vangm94 said:

Good ol days, back when no one reversed and maps were unbalanced. I miss those days.

Where the OP ship was the ATL lol... Man what happen WOW~!

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Cleveland was considered far more OP than Atlanta was.

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1 minute ago, crzyhawk said:

Cleveland was considered far more OP than Atlanta was.

that too. Cleveland was a beast

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2 minutes ago, crzyhawk said:

remember when one team could have more ships than the other?

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I have a pic somewhere of uneven teams with only one CV in the game and it was Ichase lol.

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Just now, Shigure_DD said:

I have a pic somewhere of uneven teams with only one CV in the game and it was Ichase lol.

lol yeah, I've forgotten about that.  I also remember when CV sniping was /the/ tactic and CV players would ask a cruiser to escort them at the beginning of matches for protection.

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1 minute ago, crzyhawk said:

lol yeah, I've forgotten about that.  I also remember when CV sniping was /the/ tactic and CV players would ask a cruiser to escort them at the beginning of matches for protection.

when ships like the Atlanta's had something to do other then hug a island.

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I can honestly say I'd hate CVs less if they faced the same threat from the air that the rest of us do.

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19 minutes ago, crzyhawk said:

lol yeah, I've forgotten about that.  I also remember when CV sniping was /the/ tactic and CV players would ask a cruiser to escort them at the beginning of matches for protection.

Remember getting asked if I wanted an escort, but wasn’t here for the uneven teams days.

crzyhawk, wonder how many of the players in the teams on that uneven match you posted are still actually playing besides you.

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10 minutes ago, Estimated_Prophet said:

Remember getting asked if I wanted an escort, but wasn’t here for the uneven teams days.

crzyhawk, wonder how many of the players in the teams on that uneven match you posted are still actually playing besides you.

Shoot, I haven't really thought about it.  Honestly, I mostly assume that churn has eaten up most of the old school players that don't bother to post on the forums, but then again, I tend to see a lot of alpha and beta patches flash across my screen when I die.

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1 hour ago, daVinci761st said:

If you queue up a tier 7 in a division with a tier 8, you can be dragged into a tier 10 battle. The MM considers the highest tier ship in a division which can result in  +3/-1 match making in your situation.

Happened to me once. Divisioned with friends who were in T5. I was in my T4 Clemson. Ended up in a T7 match. Was fun.

 

Seen one other instance, someone was in  T1 divisioning  with people in T2 ships. Ended up in a T4 match.

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