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HMS Onslow, an ''O'' class RN DD, is a ship I would like to see in the game. She was commanded by Captain Robert St Vincent Sherbrooke, VC (a captain I would like to see in the game) at the Battle of the Barents Sea, December 1942 (the VC award was for that battle). She has the advantage of having served in the Pakistan Navy as PNS Tippu Sultan, which would give us another Pan Asian ship and nation in the game. The ship would make a strong T7 premium with Gallant's guns and smoke, Jervis' hull and hit points, and Lightning's torpedoes and concealment, no other gimmicks needed.

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Agreed it would be nice to see her in game, good suggestion OP/

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2 hours ago, GrandAdmiral_2016 said:

HMS Onslow, an ''O'' class RN DD, is a ship I would like to see in the game. She was commanded by Captain Robert St Vincent Sherbrooke, VC (a captain I would like to see in the game) at the Battle of the Barents Sea, December 1942 (the VC award was for that battle). She has the advantage of having served in the Pakistan Navy as PNS Tippu Sultan, which would give us another Pan Asian ship and nation in the game. The ship would make a strong T7 premium with Gallant's guns and smoke, Jervis' hull and hit points, and Lightning's torpedoes and concealment, no other gimmicks needed.

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Getting an O class DD into Pan-Asian ships would be interesting. But should it be tier 7? If you want it with guns of the Galant and torps of the Lightning would it not be better at tier 6? Tier 7 for Premium DD you have the Haida, Z-39, Blyskawika, Sims, and Leningrad who all would outrange the Galants guns by 1.5 to 2.5 kilometers. Where at Tier 6, it's possible play style as a stealthy Torp vote could be a fun variation. Curious for your and others thoughts  @GrandAdmiral_2016. Thanks for bringing this ship up as it does pose some fun questions. Also, the O class looks a great deal like the Tribal Class IMO. 

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3 hours ago, GrandAdmiral_2016 said:

HMS Onslow...

 

Just curious, is there also an HMS Hyacinth then ?

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1 hour ago, freggo said:

Just curious, is there also an HMS Hyacinth then ?

Flower class corvette!

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Just now, GrandAdmiral_2016 said:

Flower class corvette!

lets put the flowers into a bucket and make a nice bouquet :-)

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2 hours ago, BTed72 said:

Getting an O class DD into Pan-Asian ships would be interesting. But should it be tier 7? If you want it with guns of the Galant and torps of the Lightning would it not be better at tier 6? Tier 7 for Premium DD you have the Haida, Z-39, Blyskawika, Sims, and Leningrad who all would outrange the Galants guns by 1.5 to 2.5 kilometers. Where at Tier 6, it's possible play style as a stealthy Torp vote could be a fun variation. Curious for your and others thoughts  @GrandAdmiral_2016. Thanks for bringing this ship up as it does pose some fun questions. Also, the O class looks a great deal like the Tribal Class IMO. 

Just throwing out ideas. The ship was 1st emergency wartime flotilla September1939 Admiralty order. The design was frozen using J-class hull lines and machinery and G/H class single 4.7-inch mounts with quadruple torpedo tubes for rapid wartime production. The RN had a huge problem with gun mount production which is why wartime destroyers got 4 single mounts instead of 3 twins, which were slow in production. There is a huge variation in the first four wartime flotillas with regards to armament in the O, P, Q and R classes.

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3 hours ago, iDuckman said:

Onslow

Onslow

 

Hehe, exactly :-)

 

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8 hours ago, GrandAdmiral_2016 said:

HMS Onslow, an ''O'' class RN DD, is a ship I would like to see in the game. She was commanded by Captain Robert St Vincent Sherbrooke, VC (a captain I would like to see in the game) at the Battle of the Barents Sea, December 1942 (the VC award was for that battle). She has the advantage of having served in the Pakistan Navy as PNS Tippu Sultan, which would give us another Pan Asian ship and nation in the game. The ship would make a strong T7 premium with Gallant's guns and smoke, Jervis' hull and hit points, and Lightning's torpedoes and concealment, no other gimmicks needed.

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Gallant's guns at tier 7 is lacking, considering at this point there are 6 and 5 gun DDs like Haida, Gadjah Mada, Mahan, and Jervis. Heck Akatsuki can probably give Onslow a good beating too.

If the O class were based more or less on the J class hull, why would she have the concealment of Lightning? Surely the base concealment would be that of Jervis.

Lightning's torps are almost exactly the same as Gallant's torps. So there's no real advantage here.

I think Onslow would be too weak for tier 7, but would work for tier 6. A problem with tier 6 though is that she'd be stepping on Gallants toes considering they are both pretty similar.

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4 hours ago, Super_Dreadnought said:

Gallant's guns at tier 7 is lacking, considering at this point there are 6 and 5 gun DDs like Haida, Gadjah Mada, Mahan, and Jervis. Heck Akatsuki can probably give Onslow a good beating too.

If the O class were based more or less on the J class hull, why would she have the concealment of Lightning? Surely the base concealment would be that of Jervis.

Lightning's torps are almost exactly the same as Gallant's torps. So there's no real advantage here.

I think Onslow would be too weak for tier 7, but would work for tier 6. A problem with tier 6 though is that she'd be stepping on Gallants toes considering they are both pretty similar.

Onslow should have exactly the same concealment. Lightning is a bigger ship wth more powerful guns in powered twin mounts, by over two hundred tons full load and thirty feet in length and two feet in the beam. Onslow has the J-class low bridge with a lower foremast, which does give it a lower profile. Smaller ship=better concealment IMHO. Combine the slightly longer range torps with Gallant's smoke and Lightning's concealment and you have a reasonable T7. Give her hydro to cope, in compensation for shorter range guns. Like all RN DDs below T8 her AA will be barely present so no DFAA. Many of these ships gave up a set of quadruple tubes to carry additional AA. Depends on what you want with the current CV meta. Make it optional with a B-hull like Monaghan. Remember that all RN DDs had the same 4.7-inch QF Mk IX barrels and shells up until the Z-class, L and M classes and some L's,O's and P's with 4-inch. excepted, so classes with 4.7-inch range differences should be related to gun mounting elevation, not ballistics. Again, just throwing ideas out. The 4.7's in Lightning and the M's used a heavier shell

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Onslow could readily have the stealth of Gadjah Mada (an N class hull) which is a bit better than a Jervis, probably for game balance but possibly because Jervis as a flotilla leader had a slightly larger, but no taller, aft deckhouse.

That said, the armament basically reflects Gallant, and the hull trades up in HP but down in handling. You could make her T7 with maybe stats buffs like 10km torpedoes, it's all a little awkward. 

 

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On 6/24/2019 at 12:36 PM, BTed72 said:

Getting an O class DD into Pan-Asian ships would be interesting. But should it be tier 7?

   Deleted. On second thought not constructive to discussion. Sorry

 

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