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Why should CV's be so limited in games?

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I mean it's only fair. You can, and do, have 4 BB's or more in a game, 4 cruisers or more in a game, 4 dd's in a game. YET CV's are limited to one at tier 10 and 2 others tiers. This adds to a CV player's queue time and seems totally unfair. Why doesn't  WG open it up to be fair like the other classes of boats?

Totally unfair to this class.

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Just now, JdeMolay said:

I mean it's only fair. You can, and do, have 4 BB's or more in a game, 4 cruisers or more in a game, 4 dd's in a game. YET CV's are limited to one at tier 10 and 2 others tiers. This adds to a CV player's queue time and seems totally unfair. Why doesn't  WG open it up to be fair like the other classes of boats?

Totally unfair to this class.

WG wanted 2-4 CVs per team in every game but allowing more than one per team breaks the game.  WG is running a for profit business so they are forced to concede this.  As long as WG allows CVs to break the game you're going to get the short end of the stick as a CV player. 

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16 minutes ago, JdeMolay said:

I mean it's only fair. You can, and do, have 4 BB's or more in a game, 4 cruisers or more in a game, 4 dd's in a game. YET CV's are limited to one at tier 10 and 2 others tiers. This adds to a CV player's queue time and seems totally unfair. Why doesn't  WG open it up to be fair like the other classes of boats?

Totally unfair to this class.

Considering it's down to 5% of the player population playing them, how would you expect this to ever happen.

And WG's plan to have 2-3 cv's per game went up in smoke after a few weeks.:Smile_facepalm:

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19 minutes ago, JdeMolay said:

I mean it's only fair. You can, and do, have 4 BB's or more in a game, 4 cruisers or more in a game, 4 dd's in a game. YET CV's are limited to one at tier 10 and 2 others tiers. This adds to a CV player's queue time and seems totally unfair. Why doesn't  WG open it up to be fair like the other classes of boats?

Totally unfair to this class.

Seriously?

After Update 8.0's Carrier sales gimmick exploded into the political nightmare we are now all living in, you'd even ask this question?  At the moment, the "farming exercise" the 8.0 gimmick created cause a few players to physically leave; a great many others to cut way back in hours invested; another couple of thousand to stop playing Randoms and Ranked (where my clan is a the moment;) and, an un counted number of others whom have stopped spending money on this game.....

That wasn't enough?  Then consider, what is going on in the EU and the US House of Representatives with legislation that is considering what to do with video games that exceed common sense.....  Oy Vey....

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40 minutes ago, JdeMolay said:

I mean it's only fair. You can, and do, have 4 BB's or more in a game, 4 cruisers or more in a game, 4 dd's in a game. YET CV's are limited to one at tier 10 and 2 others tiers. This adds to a CV player's queue time and seems totally unfair. Why doesn't  WG open it up to be fair like the other classes of boats?

Totally unfair to this class.

Ummmm … because they are awful and break the game?

 

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41 minutes ago, JdeMolay said:

I mean it's only fair. You can, and do, have 4 BB's or more in a game, 4 cruisers or more in a game, 4 dd's in a game. YET CV's are limited to one at tier 10 and 2 others tiers. This adds to a CV player's queue time and seems totally unfair. Why doesn't  WG open it up to be fair like the other classes of boats?

Totally unfair to this class.

 

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Because cvs make people cry.

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I will say this if it was the old rts style yes why not a carrier could fight each other now not so much. It's a basic be the one to farm more damage style right now. Make a CV able to attack other cv's and I would agree but 4 cv's fighting over damaging the other ships right now. No not a good plan.

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WG hasn't adequately prepared this sim yet for an explosion of manually guided missiles that also spot for themselves. It's also unclear how well they are prepared for handling that not everyone is chill about being unable to shoot back.

They seem addicted to keeping it complex. Posted before they need only make AA reliable (it should never have been set to preload) and revert back to 0.8.0 CV that was so easy to do well in. This way they got rework done almost overnight. But nope, they're just like the Eldunari that can  only communicate w/ images and memories.

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1 hour ago, JdeMolay said:

mean it's only fair. You can, and do, have 4 BB's or more in a game, 4 cruisers or more in a game, 4 dd's in a game. YET CV's are limited to one at tier 10 and 2 others tiers. This adds to a CV player's queue time and seems totally unfair. Why doesn't  WG open it up to be fair like the other classes of boats?

Totally unfair to this class.

Some have said allowing more into battles just "breaks the game".  That's all the proof I need to validate the assertion that CVs have been, and currently are (as implemented and in combination with the relatively ineffective AA and +/- 2 tier match-making) a fundamentally broken game element with respect to "PvP (player vs. player) battle types" involving random groups of players.

If you disagree with the above assertion, please explain why CVs must be "more constrained in number" if they don't have an excessive disproportional impact on random PvP battle game play?

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Fortunately it's posts like this that remind me that carrier players are not in fact human beings...

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The unique ability for a carrier to launch and use planes makes the class very powerful, capable of providing quick and effective support for the team. Therefore, carriers per team are usually limited to prevent the class from dominating all other classes, which is what happened in real life.

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Actually,. CV should only have mode with 4-6 CV per side.  They can go after each other and have fun.

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9 minutes ago, centarina said:

Actually,. CV should only have mode with 4-6 CV per side.  They can go after each other and have fun.

Great suggestion, and it meets the OPs needs.  Have two modes....CV only mode where 4 to 6 per side battle each other (like in the RTS days).......and surface ship only mode.   All ship types are then happy!!!

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On 6/22/2019 at 11:34 AM, awiggin said:

Considering it's down to 5% of the player population playing them, how would you expect this to ever happen.

And WG's plan to have 2-3 cv's per game went up in smoke after a few weeks.:Smile_facepalm:

So were are nearly back at pre-rework numbers again. Maybe it has something to do with nerfs every patch and a failure to balance AA. 

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On 6/23/2019 at 12:17 AM, JdeMolay said:

I mean it's only fair. You can, and do, have 4 BB's or more in a game, 4 cruisers or more in a game, 4 dd's in a game. YET CV's are limited to one at tier 10 and 2 others tiers. This adds to a CV player's queue time and seems totally unfair. Why doesn't  WG open it up to be fair like the other classes of boats?

Totally unfair to this class.

Makes me wonder what threads you read on here. 

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On 6/22/2019 at 2:06 PM, mofton said:

Fortunately it's posts like this that remind me that carrier players are not in fact human beings...

 

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Serious question OP.  Given how oppressive people find CVs now, with a cap of two, why do you think people will continue to play in 4-5 CV games?

How fun do you think the games will be if nobody's playing surface ships anymore?  I know it's a difficult concept to understand, but people don't play for the sake of being someone else's target.

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On 6/22/2019 at 11:17 AM, JdeMolay said:

I mean it's only fair. You can, and do, have 4 BB's or more in a game, 4 cruisers or more in a game, 4 dd's in a game. YET CV's are limited to one at tier 10 and 2 others tiers. This adds to a CV player's queue time and seems totally unfair. Why doesn't  WG open it up to be fair like the other classes of boats?

Totally unfair to this class.

Because this way CV haters can say "see its only 10 percent on the pop" then go on a rant about how cv have to be nerfed because so few play.

Its also the same crowed that has been iching about radar crusier and demanding to have only 1 per side.

You know its a rule because they want it to be a rule.

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