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So, last night my eternal drought of never having drawn a premium ship out of a crate came to a crashing halt. No, not a supercontainer, but one of the non-premium Service of the Motherland crates you can buy with in-game currency.

I got the Okhotnik mission.

I wonder if this is the breaking of a drought that brings a deluge. Still, even if it's not, I've got myself a free premium boat that's hilarious fun and which I can use for retraining or Captain XP farming for my RU DD commanders. Plus, along with the Murmansk, it's one more ship I won't be getting in a Supercontainer, opening the way for more interesting things if that miracle ever happens. I still think my first supercontainer ship is going to be the Krispy Kreme, because RNGesus is a capricious son of a B, but even that will be useful given the way some of my Russian captains are set up.

Thank you, WG (and RNGesus).

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congrats for you... all i got was some empty fish tins and a few dozen potato socks. 

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I bought the 7x Pack of crates mostly for flags (running low on dragons) and got a Leningrad (dupe) and Lenin (who I was gona wait for Christmas crates for). They seem to drop reasonably well. 2/7 isn't bad.

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45 minutes ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

So, last night my eternal drought of never having drawn a premium ship out of a crate came to a crashing halt. No, not a supercontainer, but one of the non-premium Service of the Motherland crates you can buy with in-game currency.

I got the Okhotnik mission.

I wonder if this is the breaking of a drought that brings a deluge. Still, even if it's not, I've got myself a free premium boat that's hilarious fun and which I can use for retraining or Captain XP farming for my RU DD commanders. Plus, along with the Murmansk, it's one more ship I won't be getting in a Supercontainer, opening the way for more interesting things if that miracle ever happens. I still think my first supercontainer ship is going to be the Krispy Kreme, because RNGesus is a capricious son of a B, but even that will be useful given the way some of my Russian captains are set up.

Thank you, WG (and RNGesus).

Congrats its half decent DD yes it has short range torps  but if you have captain that can give you maximum stealth she can be deadly and she has cruiser guns just about as well. :Smile_great:  

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44 minutes ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

So, last night my eternal drought of never having drawn a premium ship out of a crate came to a crashing halt. No, not a supercontainer, but one of the non-premium Service of the Motherland crates you can buy with in-game currency.

I got the Okhotnik mission.

I wonder if this is the breaking of a drought that brings a deluge. Still, even if it's not, I've got myself a free premium boat that's hilarious fun and which I can use for retraining or Captain XP farming for my RU DD commanders. Plus, along with the Murmansk, it's one more ship I won't be getting in a Supercontainer, opening the way for more interesting things if that miracle ever happens. I still think my first supercontainer ship is going to be the Krispy Kreme, because RNGesus is a capricious son of a B, but even that will be useful given the way some of my Russian captains are set up.

Thank you, WG (and RNGesus).

You are going to LOVE Okhotnik.  She taught me how to gunboat.  She is a blast to play!  :Smile_medal:

I took my Krispy Kreme out last night and got 13 citadels on some broadsiding scrubs!  Do not discount her.

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Maybe WG is getting more generous. I got this out of a Dunkirk crate the other day for some reason. Didn't buy any fancy crates, just the usual reward crate for completing the daily or whatever. Hopefully it's a trend. 

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1 hour ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

 

I got the Okhotnik mission.

Grats! The Okhotnik is a fun pew-pew boat. I swap the same Dasha Perova commander back and forth between that and my Gremyashchy.

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20 minutes ago, Captain_Slattery said:

You are going to LOVE Okhotnik.  She taught me how to gunboat.  She is a blast to play!  :Smile_medal:

I took my Krispy Kreme out last night and got 13 citadels on some broadsiding scrubs!  Do not discount her.

I'm not discounting her at all; I have a very good idea of how I would use her if I got her. I took the Okhotnik out for a few battles last night and yes, she certainly is a blast.

8 minutes ago, Jolly_Rodgered said:

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Maybe WG is getting more generous. I got this out of a Dunkirk crate the other day for some reason. Didn't buy any fancy crates, just the usual reward crate for completing the daily or whatever. Hopefully it's a trend. 

Good heavens, I didn't think Dunkirk crates were still giving those out!!

You'll like her; she's got a quite significant stealth window plus British single-fire torps. She was the first DD I had with any significant stealth torp ability; a real eye-opener. I bought mine but she has proved herself well worth the money.

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1 hour ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

So, last night my eternal drought of never having drawn a premium ship out of a crate came to a crashing halt. No, not a supercontainer, but one of the non-premium Service of the Motherland crates you can buy with in-game currency.

I got the Okhotnik mission.

I wonder if this is the breaking of a drought that brings a deluge. Still, even if it's not, I've got myself a free premium boat that's hilarious fun and which I can use for retraining or Captain XP farming for my RU DD commanders. Plus, along with the Murmansk, it's one more ship I won't be getting in a Supercontainer, opening the way for more interesting things if that miracle ever happens. I still think my first supercontainer ship is going to be the Krispy Kreme, because RNGesus is a capricious son of a B, but even that will be useful given the way some of my Russian captains are set up.

Thank you, WG (and RNGesus).

Congrats !   She is a fun boat.  I received mine in xmas crates in 2017.   In fact, all of the 11 Russian ships I own came from xmas or event boxes.....  Not a single one was from grinding the tech tree.  Same with the 4 German ships I own.  Actually, the only ships I ground were the IJN lines (less Carriers.) 

I'm pretty sure the Schwartz has all sorts of plans for you................  Maybe, you'll get the first Guided Missile DD !!!

 

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6 minutes ago, Asym_KS said:

Maybe, you'll get the first Guided Missile DD !!!

 

Baltimore/Cleveland C hull FTW (Talos or Terrier).

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3 minutes ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

Baltimore/Cleveland C hull FTW (Talos or Terrier).

Now we're talking !!  Heck, if we can have goblins, glowing sea creatures, and Zombie's...........why not a few "ships with an OTH attitude..."    That would be Soooooooooooo Coooooool.   "Hey, Mr. Radar Farmer.......yooooo ho, yeah YOU....Take This you pocking............." as you launch a 500 kilogram HE fragmentation HARM...................  Now that, is satisfaction.............  The DD counter to Radar:  Talos or Terrier.....  AS Rocket would say "Oh yeah....."

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9 minutes ago, Asym_KS said:

The DD counter to Radar:  Talos or Terrier.....

IIRC there was an anti-radar version. At least air launched, and possibly a ship-launched option as well.

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2 minutes ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

IIRC there was an anti-radar version. At least air launched, and possibly a ship-launched option as well.

Dunno about Terrier, SM2 ER had replaced it by the time I got back out from behind a desk.

However, I did the last two Vietnam WestPacs on the Proud Chicago, and all I can say is that yes the later RIM-8 Talos versions had a passive radar-homing feature.

We tried to use RIM-8H birds to kill SAM radars, not very effectively though. We did have a Chief FTM in the after Talos battery earn an award for using our super-powerful SPG-49 target illumination radars as active ECM to burn out the receivers of SA-2 batteries.

Fun times.

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15 minutes ago, So_lt_Goes said:

We did have a Chief FTM in the after Talos battery earn an award for using our super-powerful SPG-49 target illumination radars as active ECM to burn out the receivers of SA-2 batteries.

Death Ray confirmed, LOL.

Reminds me of the story I heard about the jammers carried by some Lancaster bombers. The jamming input feed came from a microphone located in one of the engine nacelles.

Thanks for the clarification on the ARM's. 

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3 minutes ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

Death Ray confirmed, LOL.

You should've seen what happened to birds that flew into an SPG-49 beam close aboard. Pop goes the sea gull. :Smile_teethhappy:

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1 hour ago, So_lt_Goes said:

You should've seen what happened to birds that flew into an SPG-49 beam close aboard. Pop goes the sea gull. :Smile_teethhappy:

Wind turbine: "I murder birds that fly through my blade arcs."

SPG-49: "Hold my beer and watch this."

Can you imagine what Talos might have done tied into the Aegis system? If I've interpreted Friedman correctly (US Naval Weapons; I don't have the cruiser history), the big problem was that the Cleveland conversions were all out of weight and space to accept any more upgrades and the double ended Baltimores plus Long Beach on their own weren't enough to justify keeping Talos alive.

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4 minutes ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

Wind turbine: "I murder birds that fly through my blade arcs."

SPG-49: "Hold my beer and watch this."

Can you imagine what Talos might have done tied into the Aegis system? If I've interpreted Friedman correctly (US Naval Weapons; I don't have the cruiser history), the big problem was that the Cleveland conversions were all out of weight and space to accept any more upgrades and the double ended Baltimores plus Long Beach on their own weren't enough to justify keeping Talos alive.

The Chi Boat had her Talos inactivated prior to her last deployment. The simple fact was the fine old girl was plumb worn out, and SM-2 ER could do almost anything Talos could do faster, better, and cheaper and the Albanies were not worth the investment.

I worked on the Long Bone's complex overhaul at PSNS as a ShipSupt for CRUDESPAC. With the Terriers being upgraded to SM-2, the old Talos missile house became a fine crew's gym. The Long Bone was the last "real" cruiser, in terms of size and hull form. After all, the rest of the CG's/CGN's were just re-designated "Insta-Cruiser" DLG's/DLGN's with destroyer power palnts, and the Tico's are just glorified Spru Cans.

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9 minutes ago, So_lt_Goes said:

The Chi Boat had her Talos inactivated prior to her last deployment. The simple fact was the fine old girl was plumb worn out, and SM-2 ER could do almost anything Talos could do faster, better, and cheaper and the Albanies were not worth the investment.

Fair enough. They were WW2-era hulls still serving into the 1970's. They had given their all. 

 

9 minutes ago, So_lt_Goes said:

The Long Bone was the last "real" cruiser, in terms of size and hull form.

All the pictures I've seen of her give no sense of scale; she seems like an incredibly large ship, but for all I know she's smaller than she looks. What ships in game would be her size?

9 minutes ago, So_lt_Goes said:

The Long Bone was the last "real" cruiser, in terms of size and hull form.

Not even the Leahys, Belknaps, CGNs? You know better than me, obviously; I'm just asking the question in search of an answer. It can be difficult to determine classes these days when a Zumwalt-class "destroyer" would not pass tonnage muster under the Washington treaty and some ASW frigates are larger than the AAW destroyers that escort them.

 

(And yes, this thread has gone horribly off-topic, but I started it so I don't care.)

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3 hours ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

Baltimore/Cleveland C hull FTW (Talos or Terrier).

Can you imagine the wailing and gnashing of teeth that would cause around here?

 

"Talos OP. Nerf Talos or give me SeaWiz!"

 

 

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57 minutes ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

Fair enough. They were WW2-era hulls still serving into the 1970's. They had given their all. 

 

All the pictures I've seen of her give no sense of scale; she seems like an incredibly large ship, but for all I know she's smaller than she looks. What ships in game would be her size?

Not even the Leahys, Belknaps, CGNs? You know better than me, obviously; I'm just asking the question in search of an answer. It can be difficult to determine classes these days when a Zumwalt-class "destroyer" would not pass tonnage muster under the Washington treaty and some ASW frigates are larger than the AAW destroyers that escort them.

 

(And yes, this thread has gone horribly off-topic, but I started it so I don't care.)

Long Beach was about 720 feet LOA at around15,500 tons standard IIRC, (very) roughly approximating Des Moines.

The Leahys and Belknaps (Including the Truxtun and Braindamage) were built designated DLG/DLGN. In 1975 NAVSEA waved a magic pencil and poof! A bunch of DLG's became cruisers.

Displacement and dimensions mean nothing nowadays, in terms of ship type designations. It's all about role and prestige.

Here's a sense of scale. The Chicago, Long Bone, and Saint Paul together at Subic Bay. Real cruisers, bygawd!

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5 hours ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

So, last night my eternal drought of never having drawn a premium ship out of a crate came to a crashing halt. No, not a supercontainer, but one of the non-premium Service of the Motherland crates you can buy with in-game currency.

I got the Okhotnik mission.

I wonder if this is the breaking of a drought that brings a deluge. Still, even if it's not, I've got myself a free premium boat that's hilarious fun and which I can use for retraining or Captain XP farming for my RU DD commanders. Plus, along with the Murmansk, it's one more ship I won't be getting in a Supercontainer, opening the way for more interesting things if that miracle ever happens. I still think my first supercontainer ship is going to be the Krispy Kreme, because RNGesus is a capricious son of a B, but even that will be useful given the way some of my Russian captains are set up.

Thank you, WG (and RNGesus).

oooo, Okhotnik. Wonderful ship she is.

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5 hours ago, Herr_Reitz said:

congrats for you... all i got was some empty fish tins and a few dozen potato socks. 

I want to live in a world where potato socks are a thing.  That would be amazeballs!!!!

Would they be socks to put a potato in or socks made out of potato?

Gotta love spell check and word suggest/swipe text fails lol.

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16 minutes ago, So_lt_Goes said:

Here's a sense of scale. The Chicago, Long Bone, and Saint Paul together at Subic Bay. Real cruisers, bygawd!

Look at the superstructures on the missile cruisers. Those things would eat UK cruiser AP like crazy.

Chicago and St Paul were both built as Baltimore-class, weren't they? What a difference! And the Long Beach - I can hear the ghosts of a hundred dead naval architects screaming "Topweight!" and then floating away muttering all sorts of things about the metacentric height.

I guess for the Talos Baltimores it was necessary to raise the bridge windows above the Talos illuminators, but wow...

 

16 minutes ago, So_lt_Goes said:

Long Beach was about 720 feet LOA at around15,500 tons standard IIRC, (very) roughly approximating Des Moines.

I''ll think about that next time I take my Salem out, LOL. I'm very surprised the Des Moines-es didn't get considered as missile cruiser conversions.

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Yup, Saint Paul and the Chi Boat had identical propulsion plants, although Chicago got bigger SSTG's in the conversion.

The Long Beach and Chicago could both be wicked rollers in a beam sea, but mostly due to sail effect and metacentric height. The superstructures were actually very lightly-built of aluminum.

The Bone got her big box for the same reason as the CVN Enterprise, the fixed phased-array FARSCAN radar systems.

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