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On ‎6‎/‎7‎/‎2019 at 11:03 AM, 1SneakyDevil said:

What makes you so special that you should get to opt out of part of the game? Then BBs will want no DDs options, cruisers will want no BB options, etc. Then all of you fools will be sitting in queue not able to get a match other than against the ship class you are playing.

well dd's have gotten their nerf..... kiev, minekaze, khab to name a few and the cruisers did also.  Now bb's mostly hit over pens or ricochets, even with HE shots.  to take away targeting on the planes is a bit much, hardly no defense against them.  then there is having up to 3 cv's on each side, 2 is tolerable and still a biatch if they tag team a single ship.  WG spent a lot of time and probably money to get cv's the way they are and from what ive been hearing from many is that the game isn't worth playing anymore.  WG gave cv's a lot, they should also give bb's; cruisers and dd's a defense against them, instead they took away most of the defense but hey they gave us the 25% more to one side of the ship with aa.  it aint working.  leave the aa targeting the way it was.  this would even things out.

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3 hours ago, obakeronin said:

well dd's have gotten their nerf..... kiev, minekaze, khab to name a few and the cruisers did also.  Now bb's mostly hit over pens or ricochets, even with HE shots.  to take away targeting on the planes is a bit much, hardly no defense against them.  then there is having up to 3 cv's on each side, 2 is tolerable and still a biatch if they tag team a single ship.  WG spent a lot of time and probably money to get cv's the way they are and from what ive been hearing from many is that the game isn't worth playing anymore.  WG gave cv's a lot, they should also give bb's; cruisers and dd's a defense against them, instead they took away most of the defense but hey they gave us the 25% more to one side of the ship with aa.  it aint working.  leave the aa targeting the way it was.  this would even things out.

WG gave CVs alot???? Yet they can only have a single attack squadron in use now, torp damage only tickles most ships, flood zones reduced, flood time significantly decreased, bottom tier CVs get all their planes shredded before unloading any ordinance, no real alpha strike capabilities now, etc.

I don't have significant issues driving my ships with CVs in matches unless they are working together.

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I like to have 4-6 CV games.  But I'm in my AA geared/perked escort DD spewing fire and death while I can just sit in my magical smoke bunker cloud, drink some tea, and shoot down endless amounts of planes all the while spamming a battleship with also endless HE spam (from the same turrets being used for AA), because AA flak spam is as broken as CVs.

The CV rework on paper is fun.  Actually controlling planes and doing the bombing runs.  At T4 I had a blast in the HMS CV.  But T6 it starts to go downhill and it becomes horribly broken and not fun.  Especially at T8 - T10 where every cruiser/battleship is manned by full perked/geared admiral and can send up walls of flak and your whole squadron can be shot down at impossibly far ranges.  You spot a Worcester, you die essentially.  Cant dodge flak on that level of spam.  CV rework could've be fun, but Wargaming are asshats who fiddle with numbers to 'balance' mechanics, but dont realize its the mechanics that are broken.

Personally, i still like the old CVs.  Fighters could be sent to aid your fleet while bombing the enemy somewhere else.  It made CVs much more strategic.  Felt like if Wargaming took their heads out of their asses, those mechanics could've worked.  But nope.  "Reworked".  Gotta divert from your bombing run to drop fighters over a friendly for some god awful reason, and your whole squadron flies over the target ship spewing AA fire and only 1/3 of the planes drop bombs.  Either you gotta drop bombs into the ocean to "save" planes because you have no control of how many planes are launched, or uninstall.

I bet there's a board meeting, and wargaming execs have zero idea why the CVs are dead again and dont listen to the community.  Just collect that sweet sweet free to play, pay to win money.

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5 hours ago, DaggyWaggy said:

I like to have 4-6 CV games.  But I'm in my AA geared/perked escort DD spewing fire and death while I can just sit in my magical smoke bunker cloud, drink some tea, and shoot down endless amounts of planes all the while spamming a battleship with also endless HE spam (from the same turrets being used for AA), because AA flak spam is as broken as CVs.

The CV rework on paper is fun.  Actually controlling planes and doing the bombing runs.  At T4 I had a blast in the HMS CV.  But T6 it starts to go downhill and it becomes horribly broken and not fun.  Especially at T8 - T10 where every cruiser/battleship is manned by full perked/geared admiral and can send up walls of flak and your whole squadron can be shot down at impossibly far ranges.  You spot a Worcester, you die essentially.  Cant dodge flak on that level of spam.  CV rework could've be fun, but Wargaming are asshats who fiddle with numbers to 'balance' mechanics, but dont realize its the mechanics that are broken.

Personally, i still like the old CVs.  Fighters could be sent to aid your fleet while bombing the enemy somewhere else.  It made CVs much more strategic.  Felt like if Wargaming took their heads out of their asses, those mechanics could've worked.  But nope.  "Reworked".  Gotta divert from your bombing run to drop fighters over a friendly for some god awful reason, and your whole squadron flies over the target ship spewing AA fire and only 1/3 of the planes drop bombs.  Either you gotta drop bombs into the ocean to "save" planes because you have no control of how many planes are launched, or uninstall.

I bet there's a board meeting, and wargaming execs have zero idea why the CVs are dead again and dont listen to the community.  Just collect that sweet sweet free to play, pay to win money.

They are incompetent at best. I mean really, the AA is more OP with this new buff in 8.5 and as a balance measure, they allow my planes to go even slower? T8 CV has virtually no chance in t10 match now. I realized long ago they were more interested in putting in OP Russian fantasy boats then making sure older premiums were competitive. Some of the ships I have purchased previously have been power creep'd out of competition. I have stopped giving these people any more money long ago. 

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1 hour ago, USSClark_W_Grizwold said:

They are incompetent at best. I mean really, the AA is more OP with this new buff in 8.5 and as a balance measure, they allow my planes to go even slower? T8 CV has virtually no chance in t10 match now. I realized long ago they were more interested in putting in OP Russian fantasy boats then making sure older premiums were competitive. Some of the ships I have purchased previously have been power creep'd out of competition. I have stopped giving these people any more money long ago. 

Did the AA buff actually happen in 8.5?  

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On 6/26/2019 at 8:18 PM, HallaSnackbar said:

Did the AA buff actually happen in 8.5?  

Yes, if you hate CVs then this is the patch for you. Planes are just gone now so as a CV player, if you just like ferrying planes to a target to maybe get one drop then you will have a good time.. 

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On ‎5‎/‎28‎/‎2019 at 1:45 PM, m4tt_ said:

Most of the people don't like when we have 2 cvs per game, much less 4.

sometimes seems like all they want is folks who like this game just stop playing it.

heh only 4, been in battles with 3 on each side and one that had 3 cv's on each side with 1 bb and 1 cruiser on each side, talk mm disfuntualities

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I love 4 CV games even if I'm not a CV or AA ship, that's one less cruiser for a DD to deal with. CV's aren't nearly as OP as radar.

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From what I can tell, y'all only hate CVs because they kill you a lot.  I don't see battleship players asking for destroyers to be removed from the game.

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On 6/24/2019 at 10:19 AM, 1SneakyDevil said:

WG gave CVs alot???? Yet they can only have a single attack squadron in use now, torp damage only tickles most ships, flood zones reduced, flood time significantly decreased, bottom tier CVs get all their planes shredded before unloading any ordinance, no real alpha strike capabilities now, etc.

I don't have significant issues driving my ships with CVs in matches unless they are working together.

well sir you nailed with this comment.

Only real sealclubber tier for CVs its tier IV, and it is also the same tier ppl get to see regular 4 and even 6 CV in a match. Tier IV also has no "fighter sq" for planes, so a CV won't really mess with his counterpart, moreon since CVs are only tier IV ships with capable AA along with some tier V premium Battleships. So any reasonable CV player at Tier IV will decimate tier III and IV battleships, aiming at the ones isolated or w/o AA
Thats as sealclubbing as some other Tier IV like chinese DD, of which some ppl uses and now wine about other ship class being OP.

At Tier VI CVs stop being even reasonable, myself i have twice as much avg dmg w/Hosho than Ryujo, that's a lot to say... there are lots of problems:


1) Single sq strike means (compared to before) than you can't split enemy's AA
2) more than 2 ships inside a 2km radio equals air massacre, your DB/TB will only launch first strike, maybe 2nd if ships have low grade AA. If ships are uptiered you might not even reach target -problem is far worse w/japan aircraft)
3) start planes are crap, barely usefull against same tier, very unusefull angainst up tiered ships
4) what's described up means your captain needs 2 skills for your planes = extra armor + extra health.
5) points 2 3 and 4 shows that grinding CV is a far miserable task, way more than cruisers and even Battleships (except some horrifying exceptions)

And all the problems mentioned here for Tier 6 gets worse on Tier 8

and once you research the better planes, and you captain reach at least 8 skill points, you'll still find out that some ships will be almost imune to your dmg, while others have insanely OP AA having no defense against that.

Yes, CV might crap on some DDs (not US ones) but not as bad as some cruisers...

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