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Neustrashimy - my regret - is she worth it?

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I am a rare player who got the Neustrashimy.  I do not play clan battles so it was a LOT to purchase her for me. I passed on the Stalingrad because it didn't interest me.  I like DDs.   I get asked all the time is Neustrashimy worth it?  My answer is easily NO.

She is good at nothing.   She has a terrible turn you will eat torps all the time.   Her 10km torps are often throw away because 10km can't hit much when you are always in tier X games trying to stay away from radar.  Her super heal is fun.   But in the end all you are doing is a sponge.   Almost any other DD will outgun you.  I had a Yugumo pound me into the bottom of the sea with her guns.   Not joking.    I will say her AA is pretty solid but when CVs always focus DDs it loses its fun.    I can't stop saying that.   CVs non stop spotting you is boring as hell. 

I put 76 games in her so I feel confident in talking about her.  She is NOT worth the steel.    Honestly if she can get 12km torps she would feel far better.   I would also make her guns more accurate since they are so slow and well you have 4 barrels.  You are always out gunned. 

I only continue to play her because I spent hard earned steel on her and I regret it.  the "big damage" numbers are mostly due to a YOLO torp.    It is rather rare to get good torping in a game.   10km is dangerous zone to play in so you have to  YOLO to get some big numbers.    To compare my Udaloi is a far better choice and my PR in her is much higher.    I want to love her.  I really do.   But she is running her course for me.

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43 minutes ago, LGBTQ_DatingApp said:

should have had 12km torps and 90 sec base reload on the tubes without the zombie heal.

to make it interesting imo

French torps, but long-ranged. I suppose. That would balance Neustrashimy's low gun DPM

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OP, I appreciate your comments. There will be plenty of other players who will probably thank you as a result.  

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dodged a bullet here too.she was in my mind for some time but now i see that she is not worth the time.

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53 minutes ago, LGBTQ_DatingApp said:

should have had 12km torps and 90 sec base reload on the tubes without the zombie heal.

to make it interesting imo

The problem I see with giving her 12km torps is that no other Russian DD has 12 km torps, particularly nominally torpedo-ish boat DDs like the Ognevoi and Grozovoi.

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1 hour ago, deresistance said:

I am a rare player who got the Neustrashimy.  I do not play clan battles so it was a LOT to purchase her for me. I passed on the Stalingrad because it didn't interest me.  I like DDs.   I get asked all the time is Neustrashimy worth it?  My answer is easily NO.

She is good at nothing.   She has a terrible turn you will eat torps all the time.   Her 10km torps are often throw away because 10km can't hit much when you are always in tier X games trying to stay away from radar.  Her super heal is fun.   But in the end all you are doing is a sponge.   Almost any other DD will outgun you.  I had a Yugumo pound me into the bottom of the sea with her guns.   Not joking.    I will say her AA is pretty solid but when CVs always focus DDs it loses its fun.    I can't stop saying that.   CVs non stop spotting you is boring as hell. 

I put 76 games in her so I feel confident in talking about her.  She is NOT worth the steel.    Honestly if she can get 12km torps she would feel far better.   I would also make her guns more accurate since they are so slow and well you have 4 barrels.  You are always out gunned. 

I only continue to play her because I spent hard earned steel on her and I regret it.  the "big damage" numbers are mostly due to a YOLO torp.    It is rather rare to get good torping in a game.   10km is dangerous zone to play in so you have to  YOLO to get some big numbers.    To compare my Udaloi is a far better choice and my PR in her is much higher.    I want to love her.  I really do.   But she is running her course for me.

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Thank you for the review.

lucky to me that WG over price Neustrashimy so I don't have enough steel to get it and now probably never.

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1 hour ago, deresistance said:

To compare my Udaloi is a far better choice and my PR in her is much higher.

You realise PR is calculated against the average of that particular ship right?

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Until more people play more games in it to bring those stats down, you're going to have a hard time getting a better PR in Neustrashimy than Udaloi and Tashkent no matter how much better you do in it.

And you are in fact doing better in your Neustrashimy than you have in your Udaloi.

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I found the ognevoi at tier 8 to be a very very meh experience and that was before it got a heal.  Fire power was horrible.  Not only because it had 4 guns with meh angles, and with a meh fire rate.  It's accuracy was just horrid.  Good aim just wasn't rewarding with it.  It's 2x3 torp set up was meme worthy.   I can see why people didn't want to play this ship, and even the Udaloi before.  Both were ehhhh until they got a heal.    Then WG released this ship, which is basically that with slightly better stats and a better heal.   This ship from what i seen only excels at one thing, and that is winning drawn out fights over several minutes.   Go in, dish out some damage, pull back and heal.   Rinse and repeat. 

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3 hours ago, deresistance said:

She is NOT worth the steel.    

Considering how rare steel is you should request a refund. Simply too much of a commitment if the ship is trash.

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This is a trash ship, OP ?   Sure looks like you do rather well in her.

 

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1 hour ago, Nagato_Kai__Ni said:

Thank god i bought Black instead of Neust

She is a fun boat to play, frankly though I kinda wish I hadn't gotten her just to try and get an "edge" last ranked. Now I would've just kept the steel and would've had enough for a stalin instead.

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I saw one running in the wild back when it was in testing; haven't seen even one since.

I wonder exactly how many the've sold/issued so far but, if this game were to hypothetically last 20 years, I estimate Neustrashimy would become among the rarest of rare oddity collector items.

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5 hours ago, deresistance said:

I am a rare player who got the Neustrashimy.  I do not play clan battles so it was a LOT to purchase her for me. I passed on the Stalingrad because it didn't interest me.  I like DDs.   I get asked all the time is Neustrashimy worth it?  My answer is easily NO.

She is good at nothing.   She has a terrible turn you will eat torps all the time.   Her 10km torps are often throw away because 10km can't hit much when you are always in tier X games trying to stay away from radar.  Her super heal is fun.   But in the end all you are doing is a sponge.   Almost any other DD will outgun you.  I had a Yugumo pound me into the bottom of the sea with her guns.   Not joking.    I will say her AA is pretty solid but when CVs always focus DDs it loses its fun.    I can't stop saying that.   CVs non stop spotting you is boring as hell. 

I put 76 games in her so I feel confident in talking about her.  She is NOT worth the steel.    Honestly if she can get 12km torps she would feel far better.   I would also make her guns more accurate since they are so slow and well you have 4 barrels.  You are always out gunned. 

I only continue to play her because I spent hard earned steel on her and I regret it.  the "big damage" numbers are mostly due to a YOLO torp.    It is rather rare to get good torping in a game.   10km is dangerous zone to play in so you have to  YOLO to get some big numbers.    To compare my Udaloi is a far better choice and my PR in her is much higher.    I want to love her.  I really do.   But she is running her course for me.

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Neustrashimy is balanced, it's just not fun to play since its gimmick is to be able to take a lot of damage. Works well to annoy BBs and bait destroyers into your team, but not much else and pretty pathetic damagewise. I think in T9 ranked it would be a pretty good shop to have since it can trade blows vs almost all other ships. Works really well to spot destroyers for your team and capture points with not much risk since you have the repair party. 

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8 hours ago, Frederick_The_Great said:

I found the ognevoi at tier 8 to be a very very meh experience and that was before it got a heal.  Fire power was horrible.  Not only because it had 4 guns with meh angles, and with a meh fire rate.  It's accuracy was just horrid.  Good aim just wasn't rewarding with it.  It's 2x3 torp set up was meme worthy.   I can see why people didn't want to play this ship, and even the Udaloi before.  Both were ehhhh until they got a heal.    Then WG released this ship, which is basically that with slightly better stats and a better heal.   This ship from what i seen only excels at one thing, and that is winning drawn out fights over several minutes.   Go in, dish out some damage, pull back and heal.   Rinse and repeat. 

Sounds a bit like Kidd play.  <pun was unintended until I reread it.  Now it's intended.)

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10 hours ago, Crucis said:

The problem I see with giving her 12km torps is that no other Russian DD has 12 km torps, particularly nominally torpedo-ish boat DDs like the Ognevoi and Grozovoi.

Why should it be similar to the tech tree ones? give it a different "flavour" to make the boat more appealing.

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12 hours ago, Sumseaman said:

Considering how rare steel is you should request a refund. Simply too much of a commitment if the ship is trash.

They won't let you have a refund if you've already played a ship more than one battle.

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11 hours ago, grumpymunky said:

You realise PR is calculated against the average of that particular ship right?

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Until more people play more games in it to bring those stats down, you're going to have a hard time getting a better PR in Neustrashimy than Udaloi and Tashkent no matter how much better you do in it.

And you are in fact doing better in your Neustrashimy than you have in your Udaloi.

Ding ding.  Thank you for bringing some reality into the conversation.  PR is such a garbage statistic for this reason (and since it's about 99% focused on pure damage as opposed to other more useful metrics, imo)

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1 hour ago, Ace_04 said:

They won't let you have a refund if you've already played a ship more than 3 battles.

I thought it was no refund if you had used her at all. Or have they softened on this recently?

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