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Russian tier VII BB Sinop history--why the name?

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I've been to Turkey twice in my travels and the name Sinop had me digging to find out why she was named this Turkish name. For those also curious here is her history:

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The Battle of Sinop, or the Battle of Sinope, took place on 30 November 1853 at Sinop, a sea port in northern Anatolia, when Imperial warships struck and annihilated a patrol force of Ottoman ships anchored in the harbor. The battle was part of the Crimean War, and a contributory factor in bringing France and Britain into the conflict.

Fighting at sea between Imperial Russia and the Ottoman Empire had been going on for weeks, and the Ottomans had sent several squadrons into the Black Sea to patrol. One of these squadrons, under Osman Pasha, ended up at Sinope, joining the frigate Kaid Zafer which had been part of an earlier patrol, and being joined by the steam frigate Taif from a smaller squadron. The Ottomans had wanted to send ships of the line to Sinope, but the British ambassador in Constantinople, Viscount Stratford de Redcliffe, had objected to this plan, and only frigates were sent.

The Russians were led by admiral Pavel Nakhimov, who decided with his officers that they would attack the Ottoman fleet which took shelter from a storm at Sinop. Strengthened by the squadron of Rear-Admiral Fyodor Novosilsky, Nakhimov consolidated over 700 cannons in six ships of the line, two frigates and three armed steamers. The Ottoman forces included seven frigates, three corvettes and two armed steamers. The Russians planned to deploy their ships in two columns where they would advance to within close range of the enemy vessels before dropping anchor and opening fire. Under Admiral Nakhimov's command, the eighty-four gun ship Imperatritsa Maria was the first to engage when she fired on the 44-gun Ottoman flagship Auni Allah. After about thirty minutes of deadly combat the Ottoman frigate was full of shot-holes and ran aground when her cable was cut. Imperatritsa Maria then attacked the forty-four gun frigate Fazli Allah which caught fire and grounded. Meanwhile, the other Russian ships engaged the Nizamie and Damiad, which were grounded. The Ottoman frigate Navek Bakhri exploded and sank along with the corvette Guli Sephid. Only one Ottoman vessel, the twelve gun steamer Taif, managed to escape the battle while all the others were either sunk or purposely run ashore to prevent sinking. She fled to Constantinople and arrived on 2 December where she informed the Ottoman government of the defeat at Sinop. Once the enemy fleet was destroyed the Russians engaged Ottoman shore batteries and destroyed them. During the fighting a reported 37 Russians were killed and 233 were wounded, although one source says that a total of 266 Russian officers and crewmen perished; at least three of the ships of the line were damaged. Ottoman forces lost over 3,000 men killed or wounded and their leader Osman Pasha was captured.

This attack provided France and the UK with the justification for declaring war on Russia in early 1854 in support of the Ottoman Empire.

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The Battle of Sinop, by Ivan Aiyazovskyé Oil on Canvas.

from: https://military.wikia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Sinop

 

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I think it was pretty obvious why she was named Sinop as the Battle of Sinop was a rare and much needed decisive victory for the IRN and the Imperial Russian Army during the Crimean War, the irony is the Turks and Russians were actually ready to begin peace talks after the battle when France, Britain and the Kingdom of Naples declared war on Russia. The funniest thing is the Russians said they didn't even need spies in the Embassies, as the British were publishing the fleet and troop movements in the Sunday Times and all the Russians had to do to learn what was going on was read the Sunday Paper, hell the British could've ended the war early with the fleet they'd sent to bombard St. Petersburg which outnumbered the IRN, and instead their officers chose to bombard the outlying forts rather then try to bombard the city 

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And as such, through the Battle of Sinope, Admiral Nakhimov also being respected & commemorated on cruisers by naming after him.

Keep in mind, Imperial Russian battleships were usually named after battles such as Battle of Gangut, Siege of Sevastopol, Siege of Izmail etc. Whilst some other battleships were named after military leaders & royal members of the House Romanov monarchy

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Basically glorious hard earned Imperial Russian victory :Smile_glasses:

Excellent research & writeup Stauf.

(Honestly, I feel sorry for the Turks after reading this, hamstrung by diplomatic manouvres, crushed with overwhelming force in a display of naval warfare at its most primitive.)

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25 minutes ago, snakes3425 said:

I think it was pretty obvious why she was named Sinop as the Battle of Sinop was a rare and much needed decisive victory for the IRN and the Imperial Russian Army during the Crimean War, the irony is the Turks and Russians were actually ready to begin peace talks after the battle when France, Britain and the Kingdom of Naples declared war on Russia. The funniest thing is the Russians said they didn't even need spies in the Embassies, as the British were publishing the fleet and troop movements in the Sunday Times and all the Russians had to do to learn what was going on was read the Sunday Paper, hell the British could've ended the war early with the fleet they'd sent to bombard St. Petersburg which outnumbered the IRN, and instead their officers chose to bombard the outlying forts rather then try to bombard the city 

More than that, the Battle of Sinope was Russia's most earthshaking campaign of which they made use of Piaxhans guns that fired explosive shells for the first time, that forever altered the naval warfare.

Then you come to think of it, Vladimir Kostenko designed his 16-incher main gun battleship project looks revolutionary & atypical to many dreadnought battleship designs by WWI & pre-WNT standards, especially with most casemate guns replaced deck gun turrets. And so, naming after Sinop was actually meaningful in some ways, shapes & forms when you recognize how radically different Kostenko's BB design in looks.

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2 hours ago, Xero_Snake said:

More than that, the Battle of Sinope was Russia's most earthshaking campaign of which they made use of Piaxhans guns that fired explosive shells for the first time, that forever altered the naval warfare.

Then you come to think of it, Vladimir Kostenko designed his 16-incher main gun battleship project looks revolutionary & atypical to many dreadnought battleship designs by WWI & pre-WNT standards, especially with most casemate guns replaced deck gun turrets. And so, naming after Sinop was actually meaningful in some ways, shapes & forms when you recognize how radically different Kostenko's BB design in looks.

It was the Russians use of explosive shells that actually became the Allies excuse for entering the Crimean War, with the British especially seeing it as barbaric and ungentlemanly that the Russians ambushed the Turkish Fleet but that really was just the cover for the real goal which was to contain the IRN's Black Sea Fleet 

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Would a Communist Government really name one of their ships after an Imperial victory?  Seems counterintuitive to the whole ideology and them controlling information. They can’t kill everyone who asks about the battle although they’d probably try. 

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1 hour ago, I_Potato_Ther4_I_Yam said:

Would a Communist Government really name one of their ships after an Imperial victory?  Seems counterintuitive to the whole ideology and them controlling information. They can’t kill everyone who asks about the battle although they’d probably try. 

As opposed to naming it after a communist naval victory? . . . oh, wait. 

Actually during WWII, Stalin pretty much reversed the erasing of the past policy overnight because they thought the people needed heroes during that desperate time, so it became ok to talk about figures like Alexander Nevsky and Peter the Great again. 

It also would not seem to be the only inconsistency, as a lot of the upcoming battleships fly the Red Navy flag even if the year of design was during the Imperial-era. 

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4 hours ago, I_Potato_Ther4_I_Yam said:

Would a Communist Government really name one of their ships after an Imperial victory?  Seems counterintuitive to the whole ideology and them controlling information. They can’t kill everyone who asks about the battle although they’d probably try. 

The goal during World War II was to stur up people's loyalty to Russia as a nation more so then the Soviet Ideology, especially in the wake of the disasters of the opening days of the war. The people needed to be reminded of Russia's historic heroes and the great victories Russia had won before the Revolution. 

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