Why is the Ise class and West Virginia 1944 not on of version?

[landedkiller]

Dear community,

 

 

I just downloaded wows blitz and was surprised to see Ise class in the game there and to also see West Virginia 1944. They even have Mogami as a premium ship for some odd reason. Can someone ask those Wg folks as to why we can’t have the West Virginia 1944 and ISE class in the PC version. What is the point if keeping these ships only in the mobile version when they have been top requests for the pc version for many years now. Any programmers out there answer this, how hard is it to create a pc model ship when a mobile ship model exists? @Radar_X any further information coming soon on either of these ships? Discuss and keep it civil.

 

thanks

[DevilD0g]

1 hour ago, landedkiller said:

I just downloaded wows blitz and was surprised to see Ise class in the game there and to also see West Virginia 1944. They even have Mogami as a premium ship for some odd reason. Can someone ask those Wg folks as to why we can’t have the West Virginia 1944 and ISE class in the PC version. What is the point if keeping these ships only in the mobile version when they have been top requests for the pc version for many years now. Any programmers out there answer this, how hard is it to create a pc model ship when a mobile ship model exists? @Radar_X any further information coming soon on either of these ships? Discuss and keep it civil.

 

thanks

USS West Virginia is a Colorado Class ship of which there is a colorado class already in the PC line.

Colorado class

The Ise class is basically the second ship of the line of the Fuso class, that is already in the PC line.

Ise-class_battleship

[DanielLeary]

53 minutes ago, DevilD0g said:

The Ise class is basically the second ship of the line of the Fuso class, that is already in the PC line.

Ise-class_battleship

The second ship of the Fuso class was the Yamashiro.  The Ise class is similar to the Fuso class, but it is a distinct class (the turret layout of the Ise class is different than the Fuso class and a different secondary armament)

[Gasboy]

1 hour ago, DanielLeary said:

The second ship of the Fuso class was the Yamashiro.  The Ise class is similar to the Fuso class, but it is a distinct class (the turret layout of the Ise class is different than the Fuso class and a different secondary armament)

The Ise class was originally meant to be built as a second pair of Fuso battleships.  Which is what DevilD0g meant.

[Gasboy]

3 hours ago, landedkiller said:

Dear community,

I just downloaded wows blitz and was surprised to see Ise class in the game there and to also see West Virginia 1944. They even have Mogami as a premium ship for some odd reason. Can someone ask those Wg folks as to why we can’t have the West Virginia 1944 and ISE class in the PC version. What is the point if keeping these ships only in the mobile version when they have been top requests for the pc version for many years now. Any programmers out there answer this, how hard is it to create a pc model ship when a mobile ship model exists? @Radar_X any further information coming soon on either of these ships? Discuss and keep it civil.

thanks

The 1944 version of the West Virginia is likely not coming to the PC version of WoWs.  It is very hard to shoehorn the ship into the tier system.  I think the Blitz game has less tiers?  I'm not sure.

[Battlecruiser_Repulse]

You need to edit the topic header - that isn't coherent.

Also, not everything can be present in this game all at once - they'd have nothing to sell moving forward.

[Radar_X]

3 hours ago, landedkiller said:

Dear community,

 

 

I just downloaded wows blitz and was surprised to see Ise class in the game there and to also see West Virginia 1944. They even have Mogami as a premium ship for some odd reason. Can someone ask those Wg folks as to why we can’t have the West Virginia 1944 and ISE class in the PC version. What is the point if keeping these ships only in the mobile version when they have been top requests for the pc version for many years now. Any programmers out there answer this, how hard is it to create a pc model ship when a mobile ship model exists? @Radar_X any further information coming soon on either of these ships? Discuss and keep it civil.

 

thanks

As mentioned above these are of course 2 very different games and the PC version currently only has the WV 1941.  As others have mentioned we do have existing ship lines already and one of our goals is to continue to provide at least some diversity in the ship lines.  A good example is the USS Massachusetts which was in great demand and could have been released as a reskinned Alabama, but that is not our goal with World of Warships. 

Now that isn't to say neither of this ships will ever make it to the game, but our focus right now is on the new Russian BB line, French DD's, and other ships we've announced in the Dev Blog.

[landcollector]

8 minutes ago, Gasboy said:

The 1944 version of the West Virginia is likely not coming to the PC version of WoWs.

Official Dev word says otherwise, but then again, one should take official Dev word with many grains of salt these days.

(still wants WV44/45 in PC version and hopes WG actually follows through)

[Nagato_Kai__Ni]

*Keeps waiting for Hybrid ships*

[DerKrampus]

6 minutes ago, Nagato_Kai__Ni said:

*Keeps waiting for Hybrid ships*

Tone?

[Nagato_Kai__Ni]

1 minute ago, DerKrampus said:

Tone?

Tone, Ise/Hyuuga, Mogami 1944, WV 1944, and any other hybrids

[Super_Dreadnought]

Sirius too.

Siriusly people here on PC have been asking forever for a Dido class.

[Nagato_Kai__Ni]

5 minutes ago, Super_Dreadnought said:

Sirius too.

Siriusly people here on PC have been asking forever for a Dido class.

Nice pun. Working as intended?

[StoptheViolins]

48 minutes ago, Nagato_Kai__Ni said:

Tone, Ise/Hyuuga, Mogami 1944, WV 1944, and any other hybrids

P-101 the IJN carrier sub?

[Nagato_Kai__Ni]

6 minutes ago, StoptheViolins said:

P-101 the IJN carrier sub?

I think your confusing with I-400,401,402 etc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-400-class_submarine

[Gasboy]

1 hour ago, landcollector said:

Official Dev word says otherwise, but then again, one should take official Dev word with many grains of salt these days.

(still wants WV44/45 in PC version and hopes WG actually follows through)

Yeah they said no subs too.

The problem is the WV44 is too good for T7 and way too slow for T8. >.>

[mofton]

WG's premium ship selection choices in WOWS never seem to make much sense.

• Already got 12 Russian premium cruisers? Good, announce Smolensk (the RN in comparison has 1 and 1 removed from sale).
• Already got a Russian and US T9+ premium destroyer? Good, two more US ones please, none for anyone else.
• Already got 2 high tier French premiums while Germany and the UK have none? Announce Colbert as a third
• Announce two new DP cruisers to go with Atlanta and Flint? Neither is Dido which would seem to be out there, only a class of 11 ships after all...
• Already had Missouri, already have Salem, Alaska, Black? Announce Georgia, a desperately needed niche
• Some interest in Ise/Hyuuga? No no, you meant 'Ashitaka'
• An Argentine prison ship, two Indonesian, a Thai, a Pole and an Austro-Hungarian but... no Dutch, no Spanish

[bat1159man]

I would hope the Tone comes into the game before the WeeVee 44/45.  The Tone would be a very interesting game play style depending upon how the scouts / fighters would be set up which based upon how they place the fighter consumable on the new CV play, should be a natural extension....

 

That being said, I did pick up the WeeVee 41 and really enjoy playing her - 

[Yoshiblue]

Since we have so many T- VI ships on PC, I can see all the T- VI ships people ask for being pushed onto the console version. Which would be both understandable and unfortunate. 

[Super_Dreadnought]

1 hour ago, mofton said:

WG's premium ship selection choices in WOWS never seem to make much sense.

• Already got 12 Russian premium cruisers? Good, announce Smolensk (the RN in comparison has 1 and 1 removed from sale).
• Already got a Russian and US T9+ premium destroyer? Good, two more US ones please, none for anyone else.
• Already got 2 high tier French premiums while Germany and the UK have none? Announce Colbert as a third
• Announce two new DP cruisers to go with Atlanta and Flint? Neither is Dido which would seem to be out there, only a class of 11 ships after all...
• Already had Missouri, already have Salem, Alaska, Black? Announce Georgia, a desperately needed niche
• Some interest in Ise/Hyuuga? No no, you meant 'Ashitaka'
• An Argentine prison ship, two Indonesian, a Thai, a Pole and an Austro-Hungarian but... no Dutch, no Spanish

Also still no Italian tech tree. It's not like the 4th largest navy at the start of WW2 mattered. 1 premium has been removed from sale. The other premiums are reputedly rather 'meh'. and the 'meh' looking premium DD has been long delayed.

[Gasboy]

1 hour ago, mofton said:

WG's premium ship selection choices in WOWS never seem to make much sense.

• Already got 12 Russian premium cruisers? Good, announce Smolensk (the RN in comparison has 1 and 1 removed from sale).
• Already got a Russian and US T9+ premium destroyer? Good, two more US ones please, none for anyone else.
• Already got 2 high tier French premiums while Germany and the UK have none? Announce Colbert as a third
• Announce two new DP cruisers to go with Atlanta and Flint? Neither is Dido which would seem to be out there, only a class of 11 ships after all...
• Already had Missouri, already have Salem, Alaska, Black? Announce Georgia, a desperately needed niche
• Some interest in Ise/Hyuuga? No no, you meant 'Ashitaka'
• An Argentine prison ship, two Indonesian, a Thai, a Pole and an Austro-Hungarian but... no Dutch, no Spanish

Not everyone plays clan battles to get the steel to get the USS Black.

T8 isn't high tier?  Vanguard and Tirpitz/Admiral Hipper don't count?

Yes, Dido will probably show up eventually.

Not everyone got a chance to get the Missouri, so, yeah, another T9 USN BB would be nice.  Though they could have done another of the Iowa class, they did all have active service histories, and WG didn't have to use an Iowa preliminary design.

T-61 was Dutch.  So was the tier 7 PA DD.

All I can say is be like a doctor.  Have patience.

[Gasboy]

9 minutes ago, Super_Dreadnought said:

Also still no Italian tech tree. It's not like the 4th largest navy at the start of WW2 mattered. 1 premium has been removed from sale. The other premiums are reputedly rather 'meh'. and the 'meh' looking premium DD has been long delayed.

They're coming.  Patience, dood, patience.

[HQ_21]

3 hours ago, Radar_X said:

As mentioned above these are of course 2 very different games and the PC version currently only has the WV 1941.  As others have mentioned we do have existing ship lines already and one of our goals is to continue to provide at least some diversity in the ship lines.  A good example is the USS Massachusetts which was in great demand and could have been released as a reskinned Alabama, but that is not our goal with World of Warships. 

Now that isn't to say neither of this ships will ever make it to the game, but our focus right now is on the new Russian BB line, French DD's, and other ships we've announced in the Dev Blog.

Indeed they are "2 very different games". For example, the mobile version didn't screw up their RTS CVs like the PC version did. So they now get to have Ise which is a hybrid ship people here have been asking for a long time now.

[Super_Dreadnought]

40 minutes ago, Gasboy said:

Not everyone plays clan battles to get the steel to get the USS Black.

T8 isn't high tier?  Vanguard and Tirpitz/Admiral Hipper don't count?

Yes, Dido will probably show up eventually.

Not everyone got a chance to get the Missouri, so, yeah, another T9 USN BB would be nice.  Though they could have done another of the Iowa class, they did all have active service histories, and WG didn't have to use an Iowa preliminary design.

T-61 was Dutch.  So was the tier 7 PA DD.

All I can say is be like a doctor.  Have patience.

 

39 minutes ago, Gasboy said:

They're coming.  Patience, dood, patience.

I don't think you understood the point we were making. It's not a matter of being impatient, but pointing out that the devs for WoWs PC have some very messed up and unbalanced priorities. 

And obviously Mofton was talking about tier 9 and 10 premiums. Of which iirc France will have 3: Jean Bart, Bourgogne, Colbert. US will have 7: Missouri, Georgia, Salem, Alaska, Somers, Benham, Black. Russia will have 4: Stalingrad, Kronstadt, Smolensk, Neautrashimy. Japan will have 3: Musashi, Azuma, Yoshino. And Germany and the UK combined has nothing.

Saying T-61 is Dutch is nitpicking. Fact is it's in the German tech tree, and for all intents and purposes is a German ship. Same goes for Gadjha Mada, ingame it's not a Dutch ship but a PA ship. And historically it is in fact a British N-class destroyer built in Scotland.

[Gasboy]

12 minutes ago, Super_Dreadnought said:

 

I don't think you understood the point we were making. It's not a matter of being impatient, but pointing out that the devs for WoWs PC have some very messed up and unbalanced priorities. 

And obviously Mofton was talking about tier 9 and 10 premiums. Of which iirc France will have 3: Jean Bart, Bourgogne, Colbert. US will have 7: Missouri, Georgia, Salem, Alaska, Somers, Benham, Black. Russia will have 4: Stalingrad, Kronstadt, Smolensk, Neautrashimy. Japan will have 3: Musashi, Azuma, Yoshino. And Germany and the UK combined has nothing.

Saying T-61 is Dutch is nitpicking. Fact is it's in the German tech tree, and for all intents and purposes is a German ship. Same goes for Gadjha Mada, ingame it's not a Dutch ship but a PA ship. And historically it is in fact a British N-class destroyer built in Scotland.

No, you just believe they have messed up priorities.  The truth is, people will complain no matter what premium ships they put out.

My complaint used to be that the RN should have been a launch nation for WoWs.  They should not have come out months and years later.  But they're out now.

I do know the history of HMS Nonpareil.

And my point still stands.  Have patience.  Premiums will come for Germany and the UK.  What you're doing right now is akin to people complaining at the launch of the game that the Royal Navy should be in it.