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For those that don't know the enlightened drop is an exploit using dive bombers to land all your bombs in a small area.  @iChase did a video showing you how to do it.  Enjoy the DD tears...

This video is intended to highlight this exploit so WG can fix it.

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The problem with this video is that Shimas and Tashkents are not known for their AA and that they were all sailing in straight lines. Personally, I'd love to see how iChase could have pulled this trick off against a Kidd, Fletcher, or Gearing who had DF activated and was taking evasive action.

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2 minutes ago, 1Sherman said:

The problem with this video is that Shimas and Tashkents are not known for their AA and that they were all sailing in straight lines. Personally, I'd love to see how iChase could have pulled this trick off against a Kidd, Fletcher, or Gearing who had DF activated and was taking evasive action.

CVs can always strike through AA if they want.  That is especially true for DD AA.  Also, CVs players can wait out the DFAA.

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21 minutes ago, Slimeball91 said:

CVs can always strike through AA if they want.  That is especially true for DD AA.  Also, CVs players can wait out the DFAA.

True, but can they still strike to such great effect while having to dodge lots of flak bursts and having to compensate for the wild maneuvering and usage of smoke by the DD player?

As well, you don't always have the luxury of timer to wait out a ship's DF. What if that Fletcher is sailing towards a friendly Des Moines and by the time his own DF runs out, he'll be under the protection of the most powerful AA cruiser in the game? 

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The thing is, he's targetting less-skilled players who keeps sailing in straight lines even under attack. If he's facing against a DD that knows how to maneuver and use smoke, he'll be less effective.

 

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1 minute ago, RyuuohD_NA said:

The thing is, he's targetting less-skilled players who keeps sailing in straight lines even under attack. If he's facing against a DD that knows how to maneuver and use smoke, he'll be less effective.

 

Slightly less completely overpowered and completely uncounterable is still not great for the game or anyone in it except the CV players.

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3 minutes ago, CommodoreKang said:

 

Slightly less completely overpowered and completely uncounterable is still not great for the game or anyone in it except the tCV players.

Cue all the rationalizations of CV drivers for ruining the game for the other players.

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Already posted just 3 topics before you. Also WG has been aware of it for a bit and is working on a fix.

 

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2 minutes ago, HazeGrayUnderway said:

Was this not noticed in ST / PTS?  How did this get through to Live?  0.8.2 is about to hit :Smile_teethhappy:

This exploit (that will probably be fixed eventually) sells as many CVs as any amount of advertising that WG could ever buy.

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1 minute ago, HazeGrayUnderway said:

Was this not noticed in ST / PTS?  How did this get through to Live?  0.8.2 is about to hit :Smile_teethhappy:

Considering that only few people played in PTS, and not all of them are good at the rework CVs, it's only when the CV rework hit live that all these mechanic exploits have been discovered,as everyone now has access to CVs.

 

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Just now, CommodoreKang said:

This exploit (that will probably be fixed eventually) sells as many CVs as any amount of advertising that WG could ever buy.

Well, the Premium CVs weren't on sale when the Rework hit.  Hell they haven't been in the shop in a long time, not even during Christmas.  They weren't even included in the list of possible drops for the Santa Crates, and that was in the RTS CV era of the game where CVs were much more powerful.

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1 minute ago, RyuuohD_NA said:

Considering that only few people played in PTS, and not all of them are good at the rework CVs, it's only when the CV rework hit live that all these mechanic exploits have been discovered,as everyone now has access to CVs.

 

I seem to recall a few youtube videos pre-rework from PTS that showed some of the original shenanigans that were fixed in 0.8.1.  They knew about a number of them but releasing broken stuff is kind of WG's forte and unfortunately a part of the whole F2P paradigm.  It's just icky really.

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13 minutes ago, HazeGrayUnderway said:

Was this not noticed in ST / PTS?  How did this get through to Live?  0.8.2 is about to hit :Smile_teethhappy:

It takes time even for skilled players to learn how to exploit mechanics.

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Just now, crzyhawk said:

It takes time even for skilled players to learn how to exploit mechanics.

Exactly this.

 

The Rework CV is an entirely new ship in the game, and not even the STs and PTS testers are enough to fully comprehend how the class plays to its fullest potential.

 

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3 hours ago, Slimeball91 said:

For those that don't know the enlightened drop is an exploit using dive bombers to land all your bombs in a small area.  @iChase did a video showing you how to do it.  Enjoy the DD tears...

This video is intended to highlight this exploit so WG can fix it.

I was unable to replicate this in a Ranger...has anyone done it in a Langley?

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3 hours ago, 1Sherman said:

The problem with this video is that Shimas and Tashkents are not known for their AA and that they were all sailing in straight lines. Personally, I'd love to see how iChase could have pulled this trick off against a Kidd, Fletcher, or Gearing who had DF activated and was taking evasive action.

Sure, I can do it against AA DDs as well, it's irrelevant what DD you're in lol. You can always find a competent CV player, tell them to use this tactic and you bring whatever DD you want.

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The thing is, even if the DD is dodging and your planes are making huge maoeuver, as long as you're within that 0.5 timer and fly above a certain speed, you're still going to land those bombs.

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5 hours ago, HazeGrayUnderway said:

Was this not noticed in ST / PTS?  How did this get through to Live?  0.8.2 is about to hit :Smile_teethhappy:

Largely because dropping at the very tip of the reticle is usually NOT what people are trying to do, and holding down the speed boost during a dive ALSO doesn't normally come up much. All while dropping in the last 4 tenths of a second of the drop window. Not likely circumstances to come up often.

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15 minutes ago, AlcatrazNC said:

The thing is, even if the DD is dodging and your planes are making huge maoeuver, as long as you're within that 0.5 timer and fly above a certain speed, you're still going to land those bombs.

Because of needing to drop at a specific speed and time, the DD kinda has to be in one particular place for you to hit them with this. Turning into, or even out of, the drop can throw it off.

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Yeah, this is pretty disgusting. Hopefully WG patches it out soon, since the last thing that CVs need are laser accurate cluster bombs.

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3 hours ago, Daniel_Allan_Clark said:

I was unable to replicate this in a Ranger...has anyone done it in a Langley?

Just tried it in a training room with the Ranger. Am not great, but can see the potential in this.......9K hits.....even on a moving bot.....yeah......can see why it's being exploited.

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5 hours ago, Daniel_Allan_Clark said:

I was unable to replicate this in a Ranger...has anyone done it in a Langley?

 

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3 hours ago, Frenotx said:

Because of needing to drop at a specific speed and time, the DD kinda has to be in one particular place for you to hit them with this. Turning into, or even out of, the drop can throw it off.

well, so long as the DD is anywhere in the zone of "perfect" to "in front of the ideal zone", you can still drop a bit early with devastating effect.

Now, you get to play mind games

  • Did the CV go for the regular drop or enlightened drop?
    • If he went for the regular drop, you should turn IN to make him drop early and have bad scattering
      • However, If he went for the regular drop, but you guessed he went for enlightened drop and turn OUT, there is a good chance you will have enabled the CV to do the enlightened drop on you, making things a lot worse
    • If he went for enlightened drop, you should turn OUT, to make him run out of time
      • However, if he went for enlightened drop and you turn IN, he can still get a regular drop on you, but with a pretty good chance of devastating effect

 

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