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DDs are ruining the experience for everyone

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(Hint: this is a parody of how easy it is to pretend a ship class has to be removed from the game by making up claims and ignoring actual facts)

So I just got out of a game where myself and another player carried our team so hard, bringing a 2v5 down to just us two (and our DD) hunting down their DD. We played our butts off even making it to that point.

So here is where the "balanced gameplay" starts.  

I was chasing down the DD and I had almost two minutes to shoot at him, and I hardly did ANY damage because he just turned away from me and ran. EVERY fire I lit only lasted 5 seconds, and of course I my AP shells went right through his armor, so we ended up losing the game on points because WG thinks it was a good idea to cater to glue suckers who are apparently incapable to pressing the "R" key once or twice a game, something that most of the rest of us (CVs CA/CL's and BB's) seem to have managed to figure out.

How is this fair to anyone? We understand the game and its mechanics enough to be able to majorly contribute to the team and yet we still lose because the DD can simply run and be almost invincible? HOW is that balanced??? What other ship class can simply sit in spawn, not risk his ships health AT ALL, and then at the end of the game when his team has been defeated and completely outplayed by two skilled players, he can still win by simply turning around and running? In many ways this problem is significantly worse than the artillery problem in WoT because while the arty can be quite stealthy and hard to find sometimes, its very easy to kill them once you find them. The rare time and artillery player manages to win the game for his team he HAS to either A: predict where the enemy player is and fire a blind shot that gives away his position; or B: wait for the enemy player to get close enough to spot him and risk a "shotgun" shot in order to kill him. Both options leave the arty player very exposed after taking the shot and an easy kill, which in my opinion, makes up for his ability to damage players without risking his tank.

Now imagine that that same artillery player had a tank that had the same speed or faster as the average medium tank, say 40-50kph (around 30-35mph I believe), AND had armor that made doing damage to him impossible if he angled it right and your shells went completely through, AND still had the ability to attack you while running away at a faster speed to your tank. Could you imagine the #### storm that the player base would make if such a tank existed? Well ladies and gentlemen, that is EXACTLY what DD's are in WoWS. They CAN be killed, even when angled, however it takes a very long time for only one ship with all their fast dodging, time that the DD has to continue to strike the player regardless of his angling. I have had even worse examples of this when encountering the DD's that have armored decks, where HE does NOTHING because it shatters, and AP does NOTHING because they can simply angle, the shells and become damn near invulnerable.

I've been saying it for years and I'll continue to say it as long as WG proves that they cannot balance this ship class: "TAKE DD'S OUT OF THE GAME OR GIVE US A WAY TO OPT OUT OF DD GAMES!!"

NOBODY (and I do mean NOBODY) I have talked to is EVER happy when they see a DD in their game. It detracts from the fun and the overall experience. Yet conversely people rejoice when DDs are not in the game, a refuge from the "stealth-cancer" as they are so affectionately named.

If WG wont listen to the community, the CC's and the Super Testers who TELL THEM THESE THINGS, then what as a community are we supposed to expect from the company in the future? The whole point of the beta was to TEST AND IMPROVE the changes they were implementing. ALL the CC's and testers I know of were saying that some of the things that I have mentioned and that WG has implemented were bad ideas and they still went ahead and did it. MAKING DD'S EXTREMELY RESISTANT TO DAMAGE, WHILE REMAINING INVISIBLE IF THEY WANT IS NOT THE WAY TO BALANCE THEM. 

If WG can't listen to the community and balance a ship class properly that has been in the game for as long as DD's have been (what 3, 4 years now?), how can we trust that they will be able to properly balance something like submarines, which they have been for years saying they will never put into the game BECAUSE they will be so hard to balance? Are we going to see something like World of Tanks, where the game dies because of poor choices made by the dev team? I LOVE World of Warships. I've spent waaaay too much money on this game because I enjoy it so much, so I really, really do not want to see it and its player base wane away and die because of something like DD and SS (submarine) balance issues when they have THOUSANDS of community members to ask and take ideas from.

Now I know I don't have all the answers, and I know some people genuinely enjoy playing DD's. But it seems quite ridiculous to me that WG would attempt to please them instead of the vast majority of players who would rather see DD's out of the game altogether. 

If balancing the DD's isn't possible and we know from the beta tests that DD only game are NOT fun even for those who enjoy playing DD's normally, then what can WG do? What can we as a community do, or suggest to WG? I would really like to avoid a "flame war" in the comments, but would like to encourage constructive criticism, and solutions to this problem that WG can hopefully take notice of and consider implementing in the future.

I know everyone who reads this, and everyone at WG wants what is best for the future of this game, but I do not feel like DD's in their current form should be a part of that future.

Disclaimer: See how easy it is to make the claim?  

 

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Edited by SeigeTank2010
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hehe, 

So much unintended humor in this rant - Thank You :)

 

Edited - I thought it seemed funny but I wasn't sure o7

Edited by Commander_367

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Is this gonna end up being some sort of copypasta like the marine sniper one? :Smile_trollface:

Edited by warheart1992

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Battleships, cruisers and carriers also ruin the game. We should ban all for ship types and just give everyone a rowboat. That way nobody will get hurt (much).

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DDs cap.  CAs defend their DDs and kill the enemy's.  BBs sit back and kill whatever someone else spots for them.

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Nice troll attempt... just no... 1/10. 

 

Instead of trying to find a way out of this CV mess its better to make jokes...yay... :Smile_facepalm:

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5 minutes ago, Xlap said:

Nice troll attempt... just no... 1/10. 

 

Instead of trying to find a way out of this CV mess its better to make jokes...yay... :Smile_facepalm:

What mess?  Because someone makes up stories that 'proves' there's a mess?  Just showing how easy it is to make up stories while denying actual facts.  

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2 minutes ago, SeigeTank2010 said:

What mess?  

What mess? You might enjoy the rework, but a large portion of the player base doesnt like. We lost 30%players since the rework came out. Do you really think this is fine? Losing that many players in so little time and pissing off many more? 

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27 minutes ago, epojokke said:

Battleships, cruisers and carriers also ruin the game. We should ban all for ship types and just give everyone a rowboat. That way nobody will get hurt (much).

WT has Higgins boats with a couple M2 .50 cals and a torp or two...will that work?

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19 minutes ago, Xlap said:

What mess? You might enjoy the rework, but a large portion of the player base doesnt like. We lost 30%players since the rework came out. Do you really think this is fine? Losing that many players in so little time and pissing off many more? 

Wow where did you get that stat we lost 30% of the player base since the rework came out . That's a good one I like that !!! 

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Is this the guy that knows nothing about the game and it's basic mechanics?? 

Other than that, I believed everything prior to the second word of the OP

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40 minutes ago, SeigeTank2010 said:

It was intended. 8-)

Well played Sir - Well played +1

Adjusts sarcasm meter … :)

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10 minutes ago, clammboy said:

Wow where did you get that stat we lost 30% of the player base since the rework came out . That's a good one I like that !!! 

Its from a site that monitors the number of players and battles. I dont have the link here (im on my phone). You can find the number in other topics around here, i think the topic that is bellow this one has the link and the numbers, its "Playing against Cvs is awful" or somehthing like this.  

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59 minutes ago, epojokke said:

Battleships, cruisers and carriers also ruin the game. We should ban all for ship types and just give everyone a rowboat. That way nobody will get hurt (much).

I wouldn't be so sure about that.

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8 minutes ago, BrushWolf said:

I wouldn't be so sure about that.

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With the reverse movement from the recoil I could see this as an awesome kiter.

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16 minutes ago, BrushWolf said:

I wouldn't be so sure about that.

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Meh. .50 cal doesn't have enough overmatch. Properly angled, even 3mm plastic bow armor will autobounce those rounds. Plus there's no citadel here.

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