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anecdotal evidence is anecdotal...

3 out of 4 CVs in my last match disagree with the thread title

 

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15 minutes ago, Soshi_Sone said:

CV captains are figuring out how to play under the new meta.

True but if the AA furball of hell doesn't break up you are mostly limited to spotting.

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This was in a t10 battle last night ended up being the top XP earner with something like 2100-2300 base XP can't remember exactly

 

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Yay team!

This one time, in the Saipan, I did 120k in tier 10 match.

The other 50 times, I did 25k.

 

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30 minutes ago, dad003 said:

This was in a t10 battle last night ended up being the top XP earner with something like 2100-2300 base XP can't remember exactly

 

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Well, yes. RN CVs have the most durable planes in the game, and they're fast too. They're going to do well when uptiered.

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1 hour ago, TurboT said:

Yay team!

This one time, in the Saipan, I did 120k in tier 10 match.

The other 50 times, I did 25k.

Pretty much.

New carriers a blast if you’re a uni; extremely blah if you’re most anyone else.

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Bad as being bottom tier can be, it's even worse in a carrier. AA gets crazy at tier 8 and above, especially when you are in tier 9 or 10 matches and have Neptunes, Minotaurs, Seattles and Worcesters in the mix.

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3 hours ago, Soshi_Sone said:

CV captains are figuring out how to play under the new meta.

What?! You mean that people actually DON'T know how to play their ships perfectly after a meta and gameplay-style shift?!   What do you mean I can't just hop into a manual-transmission car after driving an automatic all my life and be able to handle a clutch perfectly the first time driving it because both vehicles had 4 wheels?!

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4 hours ago, Soshi_Sone said:

CV captains are figuring out how to play under the new meta.

I've only played a few matches since the last patch, but it seems that reducing the AA range so you don't get hit before the ship can be spotted seems to be helping out a good bit. I still find that most of the damage I'm doing when uptiered is cheap late match damage, since I'm still alive and the reduced number of enemy ships means that they can't group up for an AA blob.

4 hours ago, BrushWolf said:

True but if the AA furball of hell doesn't break up you are mostly limited to spotting.

In fairness though, any ship class has to be very wary around a blob of ships. 

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Dunno, my Shoukakou still lose planes too easily against same tier ship. Well maybe it's because these are stock planes. Anyway, I'll wait and upgrade those planes and see if it really changes something

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6 hours ago, BrushWolf said:

True but if the AA furball of hell doesn't break up you are mostly limited to spotting.

Too bad. One person's furball of hell is another person's mutual support. I present to you a short 1-act play.

[BB,DD]: "CV are OP!"

[CV]: "Adapt! You need to group up for mutual support!"

[BB,DD]: "OK. We will."

[CV]: "Muh planez! Dey iz teh all dedz! :etc_swear:!"

[BB,DD]: "Teh lulz. We adapted"

 

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Tier VIII CV, can manage to do something in tier X game, but feels tier VI can do nothing in tier VIII game

 

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can some one explain to me why im getting negged for this post?

I'm serious. What have I done that offends everyone?? Am I only allowed to post CV hate threads?

 

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2 minutes ago, Dareios said:

can some one explain to me why im getting negged for this post?

You are mocking the "CV deserve buffs and special +1/-1 MM" narrative. Ergo, you must die.

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Hell Dude they should be! When CV's first became operational many a Pilot crashed during take off or landing. Hitting a target in 1923 was nearly impossible and when you did it didn't cause a whole lot of damage so WOW has it correct. Grind them and get higher tier CV's and your scores will come up. Don't give up.

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13 minutes ago, Dareios said:

can some one explain to me why im getting negged for this post?

I'm serious. What have I done that offends everyone?? Am I only allowed to post CV hate threads?

 

Most people play WOW for the surface battles. CV's were a shocking suprise to them when they started playing. Being spotted and harassed in a DD by a CV is very annoying. Low tier BBs when built from 1910 to 1925 were not equiped to handle torp planes/sky cancer so it is frustrating to them. Walk a mile in another 's shoes so you can feel what they feel. You did nothing wrong people are just venting at CV'sd

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2 minutes ago, GSXstage1 said:

Being spotted and harassed in a DD by a CV is very annoying.

Walk a mile in another 's shoes so you can feel what they feel.

ahem.

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consider it walked.

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4 minutes ago, Dareios said:

ahem.

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consider it walked.

Then you do understand thier frustration. Good

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1 hour ago, So_lt_Goes said:

Too bad. One person's furball of hell is another person's mutual support. I present to you a short 1-act play.

[BB,DD]: "CV are OP!"

[CV]: "Adapt! You need to group up for mutual support!"

[BB,DD]: "OK. We will." Cries incessantly on the forums for nerfs

[CV]: "Muh planez! Dey iz teh all dedz! :etc_swear:!"

[BB,DD]: "Teh lulz. We adapted"

 

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1 hour ago, So_lt_Goes said:

Too bad. One person's furball of hell is another person's mutual support. I present to you a short 1-act play.

[BB,DD]: "CV are OP!"

[CV]: "Adapt! You need to group up for mutual support!"

[BB,DD]: "OK. We will."

[CV]: "Muh planez! Dey iz teh all dedz! :etc_swear:!"

[BB,DD]: "Teh lulz. We adapted"

 

This is pretty accurate. It's what I've been trying to say in one way or another for a few weeks. CVs seem to want their cake and eat it too, but it can't work that way.

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1 hour ago, Dareios said:

can some one explain to me why im getting negged for this post? I'm serious. What have I done that offends everyone?? Am I only allowed to post CV hate threads?

I gave ya a +1 just because... but I think folks neg vote you for two reasons. 1) Your first sentence of your original posts basically says "this post is logically irrelevant" and then you go and make the post. 2) They simply disagree with you.

1 hour ago, Feyevich said:

Tier VIII CV, can manage to do something in tier X game, but feels tier VI can do nothing in tier VIII game

It is definitely worse from T6 IMO, and I also think the IJN has a tougher time of it because their planes are softer than the US ones. I don't have enough RN battles to judge yet.

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