368 [PVE] Adm_Dodge_E_Waynker Members 565 posts 25,739 battles Report post #1 Posted January 29, 2019 No one at WOWS thought that Operations was important enough to be re-worked in time for the 0.8.0?? so now we're down to 4 Operations , great planning . and i'm sure fixing Ops will be on the back burner as the CV re-work is tweaked,nerfed,buffed,re-balanced ect....for the next couple of patches. For the amount of trouble the CV rework is causing I hope it's worth it. 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,298 [A-D-F] alexf24 Members 7,879 posts 44,768 battles Report post #2 Posted January 29, 2019 Bots are not ready for it so they are temporarily removed. Cherry Blossom Operation Dynamo The Ultimate Frontier Raptor Rescue Hermes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
368 [PVE] Adm_Dodge_E_Waynker Members 565 posts 25,739 battles Report post #3 Posted January 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, alexf24 said: Bots are not ready for it so they are temporarily removed. Cherry Blossom Operation Dynamo The Ultimate Frontier Raptor Rescue Hermes Poor planning 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,298 [A-D-F] alexf24 Members 7,879 posts 44,768 battles Report post #4 Posted January 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, commando_brian said: Poor planning Maybe. I think is more a matter of resource allocation. Still, sad to see good Ops like Dynamo or Cherry Blossom go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
628 [USCG] cgbosn4 Members 1,032 posts 33,019 battles Report post #5 Posted January 29, 2019 I will miss Cherry Blossom... Set my record for captain XP in my Chappy in that scenario. Shame... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,318 [DPG] Amenhir Members 2,240 posts 12,676 battles Report post #6 Posted January 29, 2019 This whole thing is becoming more trouble than it's worth. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4 [RSWF] SwissSteel Members 16 posts 17,232 battles Report post #7 Posted January 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, cgbosn4 said: I will miss Cherry Blossom... Set my record for captain XP in my Chappy in that scenario. Shame... Same --- 1st 19pt captain thanks to cherry blossom and chapy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
118 [ROMIE] HayabusaZ Members 618 posts 4,948 battles Report post #8 Posted January 29, 2019 23 minutes ago, alexf24 said: Bots are not ready for it so they are temporarily removed. Cherry Blossom Operation Dynamo The Ultimate Frontier Raptor Rescue Hermes I won't miss UF or Hermes, but Cherry Blossom and Raptor Rescue will be missed, along with Dynamo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,115 Wolcott Alpha Tester 2,552 posts Report post #9 Posted January 29, 2019 Good riddance to Ultimate FU and Raptor Rescue, but I'm really going to miss Dynamo. Removing Cherry Blossom is very harsh though because the enemy bombers appear for only less than 5 minutes, that's it. Hermes is also harsh because GZ only appears near the end of the battle. The Lexington in Narai is still present but it doesn't launch planes anymore, so I don't see why WG can't do the same for GZ in Hermes. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
368 [PVE] Adm_Dodge_E_Waynker Members 565 posts 25,739 battles Report post #10 Posted January 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Kapitan_Wuff said: On one hand I don't really care about OPs. Here's the problem, myself and many others do! When I do work on someones motorcycle i don't give it back to the customer until it's done, I don't send it out 80% functional I make sure all it's systems are working at 100% what a mess 8 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
174 [-H-] CFagan1987 [-H-] Beta Testers 456 posts 17,319 battles Report post #11 Posted January 29, 2019 I'm glad that Ultimate FU was among those that were removed but I am very disappointed to see Dynamo, Cherry Blossom, and Dynamo go. Hopefully they will return within a patch or two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,521 [WOLF7] awiggin Members 12,620 posts Report post #12 Posted January 29, 2019 7 minutes ago, CFagan1987 said: I'm glad that Ultimate FU was among those that were removed but I am very disappointed to see Dynamo, Cherry Blossom, and Dynamo go. Hopefully they will return within a patch or two. I'm betting they are simply determined to force players into random again...there's a whole set of players who do nothing but farm these scenarios, and WG doesn't like it. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
427 [WOLF9] Dr_Wigglespank Beta Testers 1,038 posts 4,228 battles Report post #13 Posted January 29, 2019 Dynamo & Cherry Blossom were two of the most fun ops. CB was very profitable, too (using Kutuzov). Hopefully WG doesn't take too long to get them back in rotation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
120 Bianchi4Me Members 180 posts 4,390 battles Report post #14 Posted January 29, 2019 31 minutes ago, commando_brian said: When I do work on someones motorcycle i don't give it back to the customer until it's done, I don't send it out 80% functional I make sure all it's systems are working at 100% what a mess To be fair, judging by the Russian dashcam vids, sending semi-functional vehicles out on the road to test mods is pretty much standard operating procedure over there... 1 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,039 Skpstr Members 34,409 posts 10,768 battles Report post #15 Posted January 29, 2019 1 hour ago, commando_brian said: Poor planning How so? Do you care to have potentially badly balanced bot CVs? Gotta balance first, and for that, live server feedback is needed. Then the CV AI can be tweaked properly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,039 Skpstr Members 34,409 posts 10,768 battles Report post #16 Posted January 29, 2019 (edited) 48 minutes ago, commando_brian said: Here's the problem, myself and many others do! When I do work on someones motorcycle i don't give it back to the customer until it's done, I don't send it out 80% functional I make sure all it's systems are working 100% Well there you go! Should WG send Operations out to you 80% functional, with CVs that aren't fully tested and balanced? Or should they make sure it's working 100%? Edited January 29, 2019 by Skpstr 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,521 [WOLF7] awiggin Members 12,620 posts Report post #17 Posted January 29, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Skpstr said: How so? Do you care to have potentially badly balanced bot CVs? Gotta balance first, and for that, live server feedback is needed. Then the CV AI can be tweaked properly. Or they should have planned ahead and dealt with it before hand? They removed carriers from some of them already, clearly they knew this was coming.... Edited January 29, 2019 by awiggin 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
113 Rangestalker Beta Testers 462 posts 6,275 battles Report post #18 Posted January 29, 2019 This one hurts. I only play PVE and operations. I always roll my eyes when people say they are taking a break because of a change. Well I think I may take a break. Poor poor planning. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
174 [-H-] CFagan1987 [-H-] Beta Testers 456 posts 17,319 battles Report post #19 Posted January 29, 2019 32 minutes ago, awiggin said: I'm betting they are simply determined to force players into random again...there's a whole set of players who do nothing but farm these scenarios, and WG doesn't like it. The cynic in me says your probably right Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,521 [WOLF7] awiggin Members 12,620 posts Report post #20 Posted January 29, 2019 Just thought about something...this means there will be no bot CV's in co-op? If so, does this mean you have to spec ships differently for different modes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,860 [NMKJT] VTAdmiral Beta Testers 24,800 posts 3,956 battles Report post #21 Posted January 29, 2019 1 hour ago, HayabusaZ said: I won't miss UF or Hermes, but Cherry Blossom and Raptor Rescue will be missed, along with Dynamo. That's a lie, nobody is going to miss Raptor Rescue. That one and Naval Station Newport are probably the worst of the original run of operations. I'm with you on Cherry Blossom though. I liked that one. Even if it was asinine that we couldn't play the night combat mission as the navy that actually trained in night combat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
240 Krupp_Sabot Members 1,289 posts 2,399 battles Report post #22 Posted January 29, 2019 8 minutes ago, awiggin said: Just thought about something...this means there will be no bot CV's in co-op? If so, does this mean you have to spec ships differently for different modes? Yes from what I have heard the bot cv slot will be filled with a BB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
706 [BROOK] TornadoADV Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 3,164 posts Report post #23 Posted January 29, 2019 Raptor Rescue used to be fun before they "fixed" it. As for what's left, guess I'm not playing Ops for a LONG time, PUG randos can't handle Killer Whale and Naval Defense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
146 [SLDR] slider37 Members 430 posts 18,985 battles Report post #24 Posted January 29, 2019 *sigh* I just broke down and bought guineas last night to get Cossack, because I wanted to play Dynamo... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
691 [LLMF] StoptheViolins Alpha Tester 2,544 posts Report post #25 Posted January 29, 2019 Most scenarios of late have had their attack planes removed already so no big surprise that ones that had planes crucial to their design were yanked until AI could use planes again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
