All or nothing!

[Wake_Island]

What do you think the usn battleships will be like in World of Warships?

If I correct the United States Navy was more for power than armor but I could be wrong.

I imagine the USS Iowa will have the lowest hp and armor of the release tree but it will be the fastest, accelerate the fastest, and have fairly strong guns.

What are your current thoughts?

[Super_Dreadnought]

Yamato in real life apparently had a better turning radius than Iowa. So I guess Iowa will not turn fastest.

[madmanthan21]

Meh i will blow you into the the water with my DBs

[Wake_Island]

Deadnought, on 07 January 2013 - 04:35 PM, said:

Yamato in real life apparently had a better turning radius than Iowa. So I guess Iowa will not turn fastest.

You might be right I rember reading somewhear because the Iowa was so skinny it had some problems.

[Gaglug]

Wake_Island, on 07 January 2013 - 04:32 PM, said:

What do you think the usn battleships will be like? If I correct the usn was more for power than armor but I could be wrong.
I imagine the uss Iowa will have the lowest hp and armor of the release tree but it will turn the fastest be the fastest accelearate the fastest and have fairly strong guns strong guns.
What are your current thoughts? I am using my phone and it is Very hard to type,please excuse grammar problems.

Umm...not really correct there, sorry.

Iowa's were better armored than most of their contemporaries.  They had the best guns (apart from the Japanese Type 94 if you just count size).  They had the best fire control.  Best radar.   Fastest.  And if you say "hp = tonnage", then they'll have more hits than any of the other boats other than Yamato (or the paper ships that didn't launch).  So...compared to the actual ships that sailed during WWII, they were totally OP.  Only the Yamato/Musashi could claim any part of bigger/better/whatever.

[Sampsonite]

There are a few threads that address this subject and there are a lot of Yamato and Iowa lovers and haters. I personally believe on fact and not fiction. The easiest way to put it would be: Iowa would win in a long range gun duel. Yamato would win in a closer range fight. Iowa could out run Yamato, Yamato would be an easier target due to her large size. Gun penetration is about equal. Iowa would be a harder target due to her speed and Yamato's lack of adequate fire control radar. Those are the closest facts. There are more but these are the major ones.

[International_Barfighter]

I also heard that the Iowa's getting a sweet Turbo, but the Yamato has better tires.

[Wake_Island]

Gaglug, on 07 January 2013 - 04:45 PM, said:

Umm...not really correct there, sorry.

Iowa's were better armored than most of their contemporaries.  They had the best guns (apart from the Japanese Type 94 if you just count size).  They had the best fire control.  Best radar.   Fastest.  And if you say "hp = tonnage", then they'll have more hits than any of the other boats other than Yamato (or the paper ships that didn't launch).  So...compared to the actual ships that sailed during WWII, they were totally OP.  Only the Yamato/Musashi could claim any part of bigger/better/whatever.

I know they had the best Radar and Fire control and it was a heavy ship but not like the Montana or Yamaoto.

[Gaglug]

Wake_Island, on 07 January 2013 - 04:50 PM, said:

I know they had the best Radar and Fire control and it was a heavy ship but not like the Montana or Yamaoto.

She was bigger than all the other battleships that sailed apart from Yamato.

There were a few paper ships that were as big as her, and a few paper ships that were bigger.

[Sampsonite]

The biggest difference I love to point out is the Yamato was around 12-14,000 tons heavier than Iowa but only had 166,000 SHP! The USS South Dakota class had 130,000 SHP and they were over 30,000 tons smaller than Yamato with a similiar speed! The Iowa had 212,000 SHP and able to push it up to 237,000 SHP!! So 71,000 SHP more in a lighter hull that was actually longer in length for cutting resistance down. The US was all about speed and sleek hulls when they designed them.

[Wake_Island]

Shp?

[madmanthan21]

Wake_Island, on 07 January 2013 - 07:07 PM, said:

Shp?

Shaft horse power

[zcr19]

Sampsonite, on 07 January 2013 - 06:14 PM, said:

The US was all about speed and sleek hulls when they designed them.

The US battleships were limited in there beam due to the fact that they had to be able to pass through the panama canal, Japan, Germany didnt have to work around this.
USS Iowa 108'
IJN Yamato 127' 7"
DKM Bismarck 118'

[m3rc1l3ss]

Don't forget about the Number 13 BB that shares the t10 slot with the Yammy. Same guns just 8 of them and 150k SHP for 47,500t of ship displacement. Should be a fun ship  :Smile_teethhappy:

 

 

I look forward to actually seeing the in game stats. We have a rough idea of what gun power across the lines would be like but HP and stuff is essentially at the whim of the devs.

 

Anyone else thing getting this game actually balanced would be a giant pain in the butt? Kind of explains why only two nations to start....

[Super_Dreadnought]

I believe Germany wanted their ships to fit through the Kiel Canal. Sailing around Denmark wasn't too troublesome though.

[Wake_Island]

madmanthan21, on 07 January 2013 - 07:12 PM, said:

Shaft horse power

I thought it meant something like that.

[Lazar_Lyusternik]

Mid tier US battleships are going to be similar in speed to their lower counterparts, because replacing old battleships was expensive. Slow ships that couldn't stay in formation was an issue if they weren't.

[laminater5555]

Keep in mind bigger is not always better....Yamato was sunk in 4 hours by airplanes....A single pocket battleship crippled 2 and sunk one cruiser in a 3 v 1 fight... :)

[Sampsonite]

As one pilot said in the sinking of Yamato "She was so big you couldn't miss!"

[mr3awsome]

laminater5555, on 08 January 2013 - 01:43 AM, said:

Keep in mind bigger is not always better....Yamato was sunk in 4 hours by airplanes....A single pocket battleship crippled 2 and sunk one cruiser in a 3 v 1 fight... :)

One pocket battleship was also scuttled due to 1 heavy and 2 light cruisers

[BattlestarGalactica]

Keep in mind that there are going to be a lot more nations added.

 

They have to divi up the powers of each nation.

 

USN : Average BB all around

IJN: Powerful guns, weak armor

KN: Longest Range, weak damage

UK: Strong armor: average guns

 

Not saying it should be anything like this but the point is one nation can't have everything even if they had it in real life.

[Crag_r]

mr3awsome, on 10 January 2013 - 02:48 PM, said:

One pocket battleship was also scuttled due to 1 heavy and 2 light cruisers

Well that and MI6 had their work cut out for them

As a consumable, the British get the ability to make the enemy think there is a huge group of enemies sitting over the horizon  :Smile_trollface:

[MaximilianvonSpee]

Crag_r, on 11 January 2013 - 09:14 AM, said:

Well that and MI6 had their work cut out for them

As a consumable, the British get the ability to make the enemy think there is a huge group of enemies sitting over the horizon  :Smile_trollface:

Yup. The Graf Spee scuttled herself even though Renown was thousands of miles away -- she had little to fear from the British cruisers that had split her fire and trapped her. Still, a win is a win, and there's no denying the British their victory.

Britain has always had the best war intelligence (rivaled by the Americans in the Pacific), though how precisely you'd inject something like that into WoW is beyond me.

[Crag_r]

MaximilianvonSpee, on 11 January 2013 - 09:29 AM, said:

Yup. The Graf Spee scuttled herself even though Renown was thousands of miles away -- she had little to fear from the British cruisers that had split her fire and trapped her. Still, a win is a win, and there's no denying the British their victory.

Britain has always had the best war intelligence (rivaled by the Americans in the Pacific), though how precisely you'd inject something like that into WoW is beyond me.

Indeed, consider how useful Operation Husky was when the Germans thought it would be in Greece

[Scootaloo23]

BattlestarGalactica, on 11 January 2013 - 09:08 AM, said:

Keep in mind that there are going to be a lot more nations added.

They have to divi up the powers of each nation.

USN : Average BB all around
IJN: Powerful guns, weak armor
KN: Longest Range, weak damage
UK: Strong armor: average guns

Not saying it should be anything like this but the point is one nation can't have everything even if they had it in real life.

Interesting. Here is my thoughts on stat distribution by nation:

USN: Good handling, fast, well balanced guns, high HP and poor armor

IJN: Big boomsticks, Great armor, slow and crappy handling, above average HP

KM: Accurate, high penetration weapons and great armor, but mediocre handling and low alpha.

RN: Balanced ships with average guns, OK handling and a all or nothing armor policy.