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What is the best premium destroyer at tier VIII? Curious

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As I just bought myself the Cossack.

I heard the Loyang was OP...

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That's no longer obtainable...

Edit: Ah, she's obtainable. Detection range of 8.5 km...

Edit: It seems to be bad...

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3 minutes ago, LifePilgrim said:

That's no longer obtainable...

Sacré bleu, she's still proudly available in the premium shop.

Ignore the 'no smoke' consumable, simply a bug.

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-The best DD at gunning down other DD : Akizuki

-The best torps DD : Kagerou

-The best AA DD : Kidd

-The best DD at locking down a cap: Z-23

 

Then you have ship like Benson / Harekaze that are good at torping and gunning down other ship but isn't the best at anything.

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I Kidd you not... ! I actually have no idea. I'm struggling to remember what the options are right now, that's how little I play DDs. There's Lo Yang, Harekaze, Kidd, Le Terrible, Cossack, Asassyho Asashio... There's a Russian one I'm forgetting, isn't there? Gah I'm terrible at this, Le Terrible you might say.

I'll say it's not Asashio, that boat's just too specialized and if you encounter a CV driver that can hit DDs you're screwed. Harekaze is nice and flexible with those three gun options (I'm partial to the 100mm), so you can use her as a gunboat, torpboat, or hybrid. Kidd is pretty much a pure gunboat with a heal and standard issue Pearl Harbor PTSD AA suite. Le Terrible can go to plaid... Yeah sorry, I'm not too helpful here.

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12 minutes ago, AlcatrazNC said:

-The best DD at gunning down other DD : Akizuki

-The best torps DD : Kagerou

-The best AA DD : Kidd

-The best DD at locking down a cap: Z-23

 

Then you have ship like Benson / Harekaze that are good at torping and gunning down other ship but isn't the best at anything.

I mean PREMIUM tier VIII DD :P

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To me Lo Yang and Kidd, with Cossack an honorable mention.

 

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Cossack is solid. However loyang has that hydro which helps it contest caps. Cossacks hydro is a plus though. Not to mention the fire power. But the smoke is extremely short. 

Min my opinion Cossack contends for best premium tier 8 dd.

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28 minutes ago, AlcatrazNC said:

-The best DD at gunning down other DD : Akizuki

-The best torps DD : Kagerou

-The best AA DD : Kidd

-The best DD at locking down a cap: Z-23

 

Then you have ship like Benson / Harekaze that are good at torping and gunning down other ship but isn't the best at anything.

 

16 minutes ago, LifePilgrim said:

I mean PREMIUM tier VIII DD :P

I guess this would be the revision. 

-The best DD at gunning down other DD : Cossack 

-The best torps DD : I'd argue Harekaze but no longer available. So Loyang is the next best thing. 

-The best AA DD : Kidd

-The best DD at locking down a cap: Loyang, Cossack comes second

-The best DD at being fast: Le Terrible

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Id lead with loyang. Torp options. AA options. Great hydro. Can be built and captained to excel at any task.

Id give 2nd to kidd for heals. Heals let you win knife fights you wouldnt think possible... or escape to fight another day with your health restored...

Personally hated cossack... turret traverse and handling always felt off in spite of good firepower.

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I bought the Cossack only because I love how it looks.

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21 minutes ago, Yoshiblue said:

 

I guess this would be the revision. 

-The best DD at gunning down other DD : Cossack 

-The best torps DD : I'd argue Harekaze but no longer available. So Loyang is the next best thing. 

-The best AA DD : Kidd

-The best DD at locking down a cap: Loyang, Cossack comes second

-The best DD at being fast: Le Terrible

Thanks! How about the best, overall? Ranking maybe and why?

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There are no bad premium Tier 8 DDs.

It all comes down to what play style you enjoy the most

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3 minutes ago, Frederick_The_Great said:

Kidd, lo yang, and cossack are all contenders.  harakaze isn't bad either.

You can rank them for overall according to your opinion? Those three?

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33 minutes ago, pastore123 said:

Cossack is solid. However loyang has that hydro which helps it contest caps. Cossacks hydro is a plus though. Not to mention the fire power. But the smoke is extremely short. 

Min my opinion Cossack contends for best premium tier 8 dd.

Agreed, especially with a good commander and IFHE! get that, you become a DD destroyer... which is ironic, as that is what she is... a Destroyer!!!

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1 minute ago, LifePilgrim said:

You can rank them for overall according to your opinion? Those three?

Kidd has AA and a heal, making it better in CV matches and better staying power, but is not a good torp boat.

 

Lo yang is the best cap contester(better than germans) with its hydro.  It also has a DF AA option, but hydro is better.  It has good torp options and good smoke.

 

Cossack has some really good alpha on its guns, and it has both the RN DD acceleration + speed boost.  I believe it has hydro as well.  It is a pretty solid DD. 

 

it all depends on your preference as to what you prefer. 

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13 minutes ago, kiwi1960 said:

Agreed, especially with a good commander and IFHE! get that, you become a DD destroyer... which is ironic, as that is what she is... a Destroyer!!!

You don't need ifhe on the Cossack to murder dds. 

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Let me put it this way - Loyang is a Benson C hull that was given the Kamikaze's torps, trading a bit of range for more damage. It can still stealth torp, but what people complain about in 3x2 launchers, they must now deal with in 2x5 launchers.

Cossack is another solid choice - basically pre-nerf IJN torps, on a upgunned, lower HP but better speed and stealth Akizuki. 

Both are likely the best of tier 8 premium DD's.

Got Asashio B from one of the free black Friday crates..... and I'm glad it was free. If she had better guns (increased rate of fire, and traverse) or her torps could at least hit cruisers like the PA DD tech tree line, she'd be great. But as is, worst at the tier. 

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4 minutes ago, GandalfTehGray said:

You don't need ifhe on the Cossack to murder dds. 

Yes, but I had Dasha with IFHE doing nothing when I got the Cossack and thought.... why not!

She also has faster revolving turrets and quick loading perks... never actually played that ship without Dasha so... just assumed she made it that much better. :)

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49 minutes ago, LifePilgrim said:

Thanks! How about the best, overall? Ranking maybe and why?

Hard to say since i'm more of a gun boat kind of person. So Cossack and Kidd (for the heal) would be my top picks. 

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Best?  That really depends.  Best at what?  And it's a matter of preference.

Best as far as fun to play?  Right now probably Cossack.  Good stealth, decent guns, good torp reload.

Best at contesting caps?  Loyang running hydro.

Best torp boat?  Harekaze (though it's no longer available).  Great stealth and a real flexible boat.  But one I've not clicked with.  Glad I got it the day before it was pulled from the store.  I just can't seem to make it work for me.  

Best gunboat?  Kidd.  Also has the best AA.  

Assashio is far too specialized.  If played solo, it's not very good.  But if played in a division can be devastating.  One of my clan mates played theirs while we had two cruisers.  The DD spotted and baited out radar early in the game.  Didn't go BB/CV hunting until after we'd cleared our side of the map of DD's and radar cruisers.  Most I've seen played solo just go off on their own trying to BB snipe from extreme range.  They tend to die early and contribute little.  

But once 8.0 drops, that will likely change with the CV spam we'll see for several months.  Kidd will probably be the best once that happens.  Then we'll have to see what the longevity of CV popularity is.  If CV population remains high (one or more CV's in every match) then the US premiums (T6, Moe-noggin, T7 Sims, and T8 Kidd) will probably be the best due to their adequate to good AA.  If CV population goes back to what it is now, then all these preferences will still be the same.  Only time will tell.  

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