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  1. 1. Best battleship for ranked arms race?


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Curious for the community pick on best battleship for this upcoming ranked season. Its arms race so it's not typical. If it's a premium I can probably make do, but if a tech tree ship is better than I might want to start allocating resources and captain(s). Curious if secondaries are going to play a big role, or if I should go for the flexibility of Jean. 

 

With steel on the line and Bourgogne in the shop, its game on!

 

Edit: obviously its lion and not Lyon. I dont want to risk resetting the poll by correcting

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Did realize Lyon was eligible, cool. 

 

On a serious note Musashi could be fun with the overmatch of doom and  no cvs to worry about.

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18 minutes ago, RipNuN2 said:

Did realize Lyon was eligible, cool. 

 

On a serious note Musashi could be fun with the overmatch of doom and  no cvs to worry about.

Lol. I mean I put them all on there, but obviously taking Missouri's radar over iowa, and even though izumo was alright, shes not ranked ready. Same for lyon.

 

Good point about no CVS though. This will be post-8.0

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21 minutes ago, RipNuN2 said:

Did realize Lyon was eligible, cool. 

 

On a serious note Musashi could be fun with the overmatch of doom and  no cvs to worry about.

 

2 minutes ago, _1204_ said:

Lol. I mean I put them all on there, but obviously taking Missouri's radar over iowa, and even though izumo was alright, shes not ranked ready. Same for lyon.

 

Good point about no CVS though. This will be post-8.0

I think what he means is Lion is a T9 UK BB. Lyon is a T7 French BB. :Smile_teethhappy: Your poll needs a y changed to an i.

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5 minutes ago, Kizarvexis said:

 

I think what he means is Lion is a T9 UK BB. Lyon is a T7 French BB. :Smile_teethhappy: Your poll needs a y changed to an i.

Oh rats. 

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Missouri is an Iowa that prints money. It has better AA as well.

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Flamu only reccomended Missouri 

My problem isthat I suspect a lot of DDs.  Are you sure you want to be 

BB versus DD ?   We tried secondary builds on MO and it just did not result in the amount of damage expected. 

I would start in your favorite Tier 9 DD and just see where the games go.   BBs and CA’s are going to see a lot of torps and stealthy DDs.  

Flamu has a video out that is lonng and boring. But he has a lot of insight on how the games will progress. If you watch the entire video there is a lot of info that will improve your game.

 

 

 

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I expect battleships to perform sub par in the new ranked season, alaska, and krn will dominate the cruiser game, with JB and MO leading the charge for BB's

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I actually wonder how is anyone going to get Missouri  now that she out of the shop and tech tree.

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40 minutes ago, Toxic_Potato said:

Flamu only reccomended Missouri 

My problem isthat I suspect a lot of DDs.  Are you sure you want to be 

BB versus DD ?   We tried secondary builds on MO and it just did not result in the amount of damage expected. 

I would start in your favorite Tier 9 DD and just see where the games go.   BBs and CA’s are going to see a lot of torps and stealthy DDs.  

Flamu has a video out that is lonng and boring. But he has a lot of insight on how the games will progress. If you watch the entire video there is a lot of info that will improve your game.

 

 

 

Loved the vid. I think Missouri and JB will be my go to, and maybe will use either Lion or Musashi, depending on the meta of ships used (probably lion for dds as opposed to Musashi for anti BBs or CAs)

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It‘s Musashi. Consistent and hard-hitting gunnery, and no CV threat. Missouri is a second, but the only thing she can bring to the table in this case is her 9.5km Radar, which imo doesn‘t outweight the overmatching capabilities from Musashi.

Missouri‘s AA will be utterly useless unless it‘s about shooting down spotter planes.

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My votes for Musashi, her guns dominate and if you are in a MO counting on your radar to win the game your team f*cked up bad.  Musashi also has the armor and TDS to keep it in the fight, with only her AA being a real weakness and in no CV fly zone she has no said weakness.  If you dont have a Musashi then id go for a MO/Iowa, JB is also a good alternate with its MGRB it can punish anything broadside or mow down a DD.  

For cruisers id say Kronstad, her radar is a super powerful tool, she has the guns to do dmg and the RoF to make dmg stick, with a HP pool and armor to make other cruisers jelly. 

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Huh, all this praying at the altar of the Yamasushi has me eying my Alsace. She may only have 15" guns, but if you know where to aim that's all you need to make a Musashi hurt something fierce. I'd say something more well-rounded would probably rule the day, Musashi's just got too much invested in those huge guns.

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BTW it's not Lyon but Lion. Lyon is the French one :3

 

 

Personnally I'll use Musashi because it's the only T9 BB I have but I'm expecting to see a lot of Missouri / Iowa. 

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5 hours ago, alex08060 said:

Missouri is an Iowa that prints money. It has better AA as well.

the main upgrade for the MO is radar as well as a thicker upper belt which will autobounce musashi

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Iowa worked very well for me when it came out, so I'm guessing Missouri works even better.

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Is all of ranked going to be this mode? Or this mode thrown in randomly/occasionally?

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11 hours ago, RipNuN2 said:

Did realize Lyon was eligible, cool. 

 

On a serious note Musashi could be fun with the overmatch of doom and  no cvs to worry about.

I'll be using my Mush with Yamamoto. I liked the Arms Race mode and it was hysterical getting 21 second reloads with all the buffs. 

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Missouri is the only BB with any utility for the upcoming season.

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6 hours ago, Hanger_18 said:

the main upgrade for the MO is radar as well as a thicker upper belt which will autobounce musashi

It’s not her upper belt, it’s the forward transverse bulkhead of the citadel. Despite being thicker It is not strong enough to stop Musashi shells except at extreme ranges. However, at those ranges the shells will be coming in more vertical so it’s a mute point in the game.

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9 hours ago, Toxic_Potato said:

Flamu only reccomended Missouri 

My problem isthat I suspect a lot of DDs.  Are you sure you want to be 

BB versus DD ?   We tried secondary builds on MO and it just did not result in the amount of damage expected. 

I would start in your favorite Tier 9 DD and just see where the games go.   BBs and CA’s are going to see a lot of torps and stealthy DDs.  

Flamu has a video out that is lonng and boring. But he has a lot of insight on how the games will progress. If you watch the entire video there is a lot of info that will improve your game.

 

 

 

You are correct. I'll summarize for people who haven't seen it. I don't like arms race but the video was interesting. What he said was that arms race tends to get ruled by the ships with low detection, particularly the DDs. He said that what happens is people pick up the detection reducing buffs a lot to improve their stealth and control the engagement range and that tends to matter above everything else. With a couple of stealth reduction buffs, the stealthier DDs are nearly undetectable without radar and the radar ship needs to be able to avoid getting spotted itself to do its work. BBs, outside of Missouri, simply can't detect the DDs and they get spotted first and focused down. Most are also too slow to get to buffs so this exacerbates their problems and they fall behind the buff curve. 

He only recommended Missouri because it has low detection,  radar and above-average speed to close into position. He said if you pick up a couple of stealth-increasing buffs you can reduce her detection to the point where she can nearly stealth radar and then she becomes nasty. She can basically pop up and surprise people like an enormous Baltimore and that makes her a threat even to DDs. 

His recommendation, as I recall if you don't have Missouri and want something bigger than a DD is Alaska (if it is out ) followed by Buffalo. This is because they also have low detections and can stealth radar with a buff or two and can then do the same thing as Missouri, but in miniature. He did not highly recommend any BB other than Missouri and in fact largely recommended against BBs for this mode for the reasons I stated earlier. He did recommend some of the other cruisers but I don't remember which off the top of my head. 

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2 hours ago, SavageTactical said:

It’s not her upper belt, it’s the forward transverse bulkhead of the citadel. Despite being thicker It is not strong enough to stop Musashi shells except at extreme ranges. However, at those ranges the shells will be coming in more vertical so it’s a mute point in the game.

Actually, Hanger is right. Iowa‘s upper belt used to be 25mm only, it has been recently buffed to 32mm. Yet Missouri‘s is still thicker with 38mm.

After the buff the difference is mainly against Yamato and Musashi, and some additional HE shells will shatter. Not much, but it‘s there.

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