1,374 [BNKR] CaptainKaitoGhost [BNKR] Members 2,679 posts 2,621 battles Report post #1 Posted January 18, 2019 I miss playing that ship, especially in operations. 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,183 [O_O] desmo_2 Members 6,765 posts 16,194 battles Report post #2 Posted January 18, 2019 I loved my old T6 Cleveland. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
210 [PTRGT] DeathsStalker Members 407 posts 50,234 battles Report post #3 Posted January 18, 2019 me too it was one of my ships that I didn't feel like I was going to be dead as soon as someone shot me when up tiered Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,040 dmckay Members 4,729 posts 8,265 battles Report post #4 Posted January 18, 2019 It was more fun in tier 6 IMO. Just my opinion. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
767 Yoshiblue Members 4,354 posts 4,615 battles Report post #5 Posted January 18, 2019 15,000 Steel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,706 [RKLES] dEsTurbed1 [RKLES] Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 6,245 posts 21,676 battles Report post #6 Posted January 18, 2019 Soon..... As I get my tier 8 premium (old) Fubuki... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
916 [USCC] SpudZero Members 3,072 posts 14,270 battles Report post #7 Posted January 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, Yoshiblue said: 15,000 Steel lol that's just mean. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,265 RyuuohD_NA Members 2,767 posts 93 battles Report post #8 Posted January 18, 2019 Asking for T6 Cleveland is akin to asking for Belfast to be sold again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,721 [ABDA] crzyhawk Beta Testers 17,536 posts 12,810 battles Report post #9 Posted January 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, RyuuohD_NA said: Asking for T6 Cleveland is akin to asking for Belfast to be sold again. This. I loved my T6 Cleveland too. It's time to let it go though. She deserves to be in T8, not T6. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
338 [WKY12] T1mb3rWo1f Members 799 posts 12,901 battles Report post #10 Posted January 18, 2019 Cleveland is a crazy bote, I enjoy it more at T8 than when it was at T6. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
268 alex08060 Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 2,809 posts 1,478 battles Report post #11 Posted January 18, 2019 That ship was OP at tier 6. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
125 [DOG] dashtardly Members 702 posts 12,551 battles Report post #12 Posted January 18, 2019 Dallas is pretty damn good. Between her and Helena (plus new Cleveland) I'm not missing the old one at all. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,262 [RLGN] Estimated_Prophet Members 14,901 posts 26,428 battles Report post #13 Posted January 18, 2019 59 minutes ago, T1mb3rWo1f said: Cleveland is a crazy bote, I enjoy it more at T8 than when it was at T6. Crazy only in the sense I never seem to start fires with it, even at T8. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,721 [ABDA] crzyhawk Beta Testers 17,536 posts 12,810 battles Report post #14 Posted January 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, Estimated_Prophet said: Crazy only in the sense I never seem to start fires with it, even at T8. Fires are generally not a reliable way to make damage. That's why I don't use DE anymore, I'd rather spend 3 captain skill points on something else. Usually, anything else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,739 [SALVO] Crucis Members 25,459 posts 27,431 battles Report post #15 Posted January 18, 2019 24 minutes ago, crzyhawk said: Fires are generally not a reliable way to make damage. That's why I don't use DE anymore, I'd rather spend 3 captain skill points on something else. Usually, anything else. I don't know about that, where CL's are involved. Fires can be fairly reliable if you have good fire damage production management skills. That is, watching for ships that have just used their DC party. Getting a BB on fire but only starting one fire, unless you know that he won't have a DC party for a while, in which case you try for as many fires as possible. But if you think that he might put out a 2nd fire, then just switch to another BB and put a fire on him, and so on. It's harder to do this with DDs because their fire starting chance is so much lower. But as long as RNG isn't trolling you, cruisers can produce fire damage fairly reliably, IF you are careful to manage things to keep a fire burning rather than give an enemy BB a reason to just use their DC party. OTOH, sometimes, you might want to force them to use a DC party, if you see torps inbound on that enemy ship and think that they're not yet detected by the enemy. You might be able to get the enemy ship to use his DC party before he sees the torps, and allow the torps to get a perma-flood going. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,593 [CYPHR] xTheCanadianx Alpha Tester, Members, Beta Testers 3,665 posts 19,081 battles Report post #16 Posted January 18, 2019 ah the good ole days...now ya got me reminiscing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,721 [ABDA] crzyhawk Beta Testers 17,536 posts 12,810 battles Report post #17 Posted January 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Crucis said: I don't know about that, where CL's are involved. Fires can be fairly reliable if you have good fire damage production management skills. That is, watching for ships that have just used their DC party. Getting a BB on fire but only starting one fire, unless you know that he won't have a DC party for a while, in which case you try for as many fires as possible. But if you think that he might put out a 2nd fire, then just switch to another BB and put a fire on him, and so on. It's harder to do this with DDs because their fire starting chance is so much lower. But as long as RNG isn't trolling you, cruisers can produce fire damage fairly reliably, IF you are careful to manage things to keep a fire burning rather than give an enemy BB a reason to just use their DC party. OTOH, sometimes, you might want to force them to use a DC party, if you see torps inbound on that enemy ship and think that they're not yet detected by the enemy. You might be able to get the enemy ship to use his DC party before he sees the torps, and allow the torps to get a perma-flood going. You're more likely to get more fires by more shells, than you are pumping the chance of fire per each shell slightly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,062 [GWG] AVR_Project Members 7,216 posts 13,990 battles Report post #18 Posted January 18, 2019 I want my Tier 6 Ognevoi back too.. That was my best ship. Before the AFT, ExMk, and BFT nerf, these were hellacious terrors. We always dreaded those 3-man Cleveland divisions when they showed up on the other side. The only thing worse, was when the 3 Cleveland division showed up on OUR side and we get squat for kills and damage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
576 [TNP66] landedkiller Beta Testers 1,933 posts 4,696 battles Report post #19 Posted January 18, 2019 I got one better introduce new space battles at tier 6 this time around and introduce premium tier 6 Cleveland with space camo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13,451 [ARGSY] Ensign_Cthulhu Members 21,638 posts 15,689 battles Report post #20 Posted January 18, 2019 (edited) Heaven knows, there were enough ships in the class that a duplicate shouldn't be hard to do. I am tempted to nominate USS Little Rock, not distinguished in combat but noteworthy as the only remaining member of the class still in existence (as a guided-missile cruiser conversion). Edited January 18, 2019 by Ensign_Cthulhu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,739 [SALVO] Crucis Members 25,459 posts 27,431 battles Report post #21 Posted January 18, 2019 12 hours ago, crzyhawk said: You're more likely to get more fires by more shells, than you are pumping the chance of fire per each shell slightly. It depends on the non-DE fire starting chance as to the value of DE. If the fire chance of a hit is 4%, then adding DE (+2%) increases the fire start chance by 50%. But if you add DE to a gun whose fire start chance is already 20%, then the increase is only 10%. The greater the base fire start chance, the less valuable DE is. So as a general rule, DE is most valuable to DDs and least valuable for BBs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
74 bigbearbeear Members 349 posts 6,599 battles Report post #22 Posted January 18, 2019 (edited) I would like this as well. Not sure why but WG does this but on the US cruiser line, the difference between tier 6 and 7 is massive. In tier 6, we only have the Pensacola and Dallas. While on tier 7, we have the Atlanta (awesome ship), New Orlenans, Helana (another one of my favorite), Indianapolis AND Boise (great ship too). so 2 ships in tier 6 and a whopping 5 ships in tier 7. P.S.: I forgot the Flint too on Tier 7. That is a massive difference between the tiers. Edited January 18, 2019 by bigbearbeear 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,282 [WOLF1] paradat Beta Testers 12,061 posts 17,098 battles Report post #23 Posted January 18, 2019 Hmmm.... I could see a sister ship coming in at tier 7 premium. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
151 [JTF67] JAPridemore Members 115 posts 5,359 battles Report post #24 Posted January 18, 2019 Boise is a Brooklyn class CL so perhaps they could do a Tier VI premium version and name her Brooklyn as a down tiered Boise? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,899 [WAIFU] pikohan [WAIFU] Members 3,614 posts 15,391 battles Report post #25 Posted January 18, 2019 This is actually not a bad idea. I'm just not sure how they could make it not strictly better than Dallas. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
