3,556 [WG-CC] NoZoupForYou WoWS Community Contributors 1,674 posts 6,454 battles Report post #1 Posted January 14, 2019 She can cap (5.6 concealment), she can smoke, she can AA, she can torp... she just doesn't excel at anything. She's a swiss Army knife you can build and play however you want. her only big letdown are her guns. Two in the Front and Two in the rear. Oh... she can also heal as well. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,097 [KNMSU] Battlecruiser_Repulse Members 7,086 posts 7,766 battles Report post #2 Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) It doesn't belong in the timeframe of this game - it's the equivalent of adding a Forrest Sherman class DD for the U.S. Just another case of "we have standards unless it's Russian, in which case anything goes." Edited January 14, 2019 by Battleship_ContediCavour 7 2 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,418 [YIKES] m373x Members 3,880 posts 23,650 battles Report post #3 Posted January 14, 2019 Insane HP pool with heal, speed boost, DFAA and smoke. Crazy torps, crazy concealment. Looks like a standard premium ship to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
289 [USCG] cgbosn4 Members 670 posts 21,397 battles Report post #4 Posted January 14, 2019 Any news on when & how she’ll be released?? I’ve got coal & FXP a plenty but blew all my steel on the Black... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
113 [H_] S16_Hunter Members 749 posts 12,097 battles Report post #5 Posted January 14, 2019 Souped up Ognevoi? looks like it maybe kind of fun to play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,265 RyuuohD_NA Members 2,767 posts 93 battles Report post #6 Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) "5.6km concealment on a Russian DD?? Oh no!! IJN Torp DDs are garbage again!!!!" Edited January 14, 2019 by RyuuohD_NA 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
135 [CUTER] antismart Retired WoWS Community Contributors 174 posts Report post #7 Posted January 14, 2019 21 minutes ago, Preteen said: Insane HP pool with heal, speed boost, DFAA and smoke. Crazy torps, crazy concealment. Looks like a standard premium ship to me. Game is hard baka. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,733 [SYN] mofton [SYN] Members 8,751 posts 15,279 battles Report post #8 Posted January 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, RyuuohD_NA said: "5.6km concealment on a Russian DD?? Oh no!! IJN Torp DDs are garbage again!!!!" Shh, don't tell them that Yugumo actually has 136k DPM to the 108k of the Neustrashimy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
514 [BUN] Sledgehammer427 Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 2,534 posts 4,616 battles Report post #9 Posted January 14, 2019 24 minutes ago, Battleship_ContediCavour said: It doesn't belong in the timeframe of this game - it's the equivalent of adding a Forrest Sherman class DD for the U.S. Just another case of "we have standards unless it's Russian, in which case anything goes." Not true in the slightest. The VMF maintained a very traditional gun-navy even after the advent of ship-borne surface-to-surface missiles. The Neustrashimiy is not much different from the Ognevoi, if you really look into it. It doesn't have missiles, it doesn't have anything out of the ordinary. Because the Kotlin class is one of the last traditional destroyers the USSR built, doesn't mean its some super futuristic starship. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,832 [BASIN] shadowsrmine [BASIN] Members 4,333 posts 16,747 battles Report post #10 Posted January 14, 2019 43 minutes ago, NoZoupForYou said: She can cap (5.6 concealment), she can smoke, she can AA, she can torp... she just doesn't excel at anything. She's a swiss Army knife you can build and play however you want. her only big letdown are her guns. Two in the Front and Two in the rear. Oh... she can also heal as well. Ahhhhhh A Russian RN Destroyer NTY I have the Only RN Destoyers I like Gallant,Cossack, I don't need or want a Russian RN Wannabe too 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
786 [TOG] Bill_Halsey Members 4,213 posts 25,120 battles Report post #11 Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) Only 4 guns at 4.5 sec base reload means you won't be winning gun duels. OTOH, 5.6 km detect + heal + fletcher type torps means a good capper/scout and torp boat. A DD equivalent of the Atago. Edit: Surprised they stick hydro/radar into her. She had that being a post WW2 build. Edited January 14, 2019 by Bill_Halsey More content Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest 0 posts Report post #12 Posted January 14, 2019 Well, it is good that WG have understood, ships that have a diverse range of gameplay/spec pathways (swiss army knife/multi tool), are more enjoyable for their owners, in the long run. One trick ponies tend to fall out of favour, and out of meta, very quickly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
786 [TOG] Bill_Halsey Members 4,213 posts 25,120 battles Report post #13 Posted January 14, 2019 I would had liked it if you had the option of either radar/hydro installed. YY radar or hydro from 3-5 km depending on how it balances out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,004 [KSC] yashma Clan Supertest Coordinator 5,231 posts 8,352 battles Report post #14 Posted January 14, 2019 So just a quick note on the pronunciation......it's pronounced: ney-oo-straw-she-me *ney rhymes with hey 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
724 Prof_Nutbutter Members 1,739 posts 10,757 battles Report post #15 Posted January 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Battleship_ContediCavour said: It doesn't belong in the timeframe of this game - it's the equivalent of adding a Forrest Sherman class DD for the U.S. Just another case of "we have standards unless it's Russian, in which case anything goes." You should be happy it actually existed amiright brohan? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
94 [BEARS] Kraayt [BEARS] Beta Testers 288 posts 8,533 battles Report post #16 Posted January 14, 2019 Looks like it will have to be a time will tell ship. I generally like a ship that has a specific strength to build around, even if it has great weakness elsewhere. If the Nesty is a jack of all trades, master of none, then I suspect it will gradually become a port queen since most people only have so much time to play the game and focus on either a campaign (whatever that may be) or the most pleasurable ships in their inventory. Kinda makes me think of the Kidd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,588 [CRMSN] Cobraclutch Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 6,009 posts 4,623 battles Report post #17 Posted January 14, 2019 Interesting, I'll pass though not very appealing as a ship. Rather just play the ogvenoi TBH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
278 [RZN] Frederick_The_Great Members 1,724 posts 11,839 battles Report post #18 Posted January 14, 2019 been a few weeks since i seen this ship in action. gunna have to look into it some more it seems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,589 SilverPhatShips Members 4,491 posts 20,684 battles Report post #19 Posted January 14, 2019 Well Zoup im a dd main here looks like an interesting destroyer I'm sure I'll buy it, if its not steel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,275 [WG-CC] SireneRacker Privateers, Members 9,091 posts 7,978 battles Report post #20 Posted January 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Battleship_ContediCavour said: It doesn't belong in the timeframe of this game - it's the equivalent of adding a Forrest Sherman class DD for the U.S. Just another case of "we have standards unless it's Russian, in which case anything goes." I mean, it's not like we got a T10 BB which, according to WG, is a hypothetical design from the late 40s/early 50s. Or this: But nah, Russian Bias it is, right? :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,613 Super_Dreadnought Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters, Beta Testers 14,000 posts 5,814 battles Report post #21 Posted January 14, 2019 I also watched Mejash's preview of Neutrashimy. I agree with him and Zoup: 'Jack of all trades, master of none.' Seems alright at everything without excelling in anything. Big effective health pool though, so I imagine a ship that is designed to stay alive long enough, that it can make a difference despite its general averageness at everything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
219 [GLF] AnimaL21 Members 1,041 posts 17,145 battles Report post #22 Posted January 14, 2019 Lets say there was someone that couldn't stand the gameplay of fletcher nor that of grozovoi, and sold off both, would this person like or hate this premium ship? Is it a downtiered groz or a better ogne? Asking for a friend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,768 [WOLF2] HazardDrake Beta Testers 6,724 posts 12,914 battles Report post #23 Posted January 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Kraayt said: Kinda makes me think of the Kidd. Except able to deal damage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,836 [SIDE] thebigblue Members 4,939 posts Report post #24 Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, SireneRacker said: I mean, it's not like we got a T10 BB which, according to WG, is a hypothetical design from the late 40s/early 50s. Or this: But nah, Russian Bias it is, right? :D Henri has significant drawbacks that make it vulnerable to all ship types. Visible from the moon and easy to hit as opposed to outspotted by only a couple and difficult to hit. Also hiv is part of a logical line progression. I’m not saying it bias but it’s weird the us, German, Japanese and brit dd are all boringly predictable non steel progressions (except Kidd) and this Russian boat gets gimmicks unusual for its nation. Maybe that’s a benefit of it being a premium, it can be a little dif from the line. Whatever, if it’s decent and accessible for modest do/coal/cash I’ll get one. Edited January 14, 2019 by thebigblue Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,275 [WG-CC] SireneRacker Privateers, Members 9,091 posts 7,978 battles Report post #25 Posted January 14, 2019 52 minutes ago, thebigblue said: Henri has significant drawbacks that make it vulnerable to all ship types. Visible from the moon and easy to hit as opposed to outspotted by only a couple and difficult to hit. From all the footage I saw on YT, I never heard Neustrashimy being labeled overpowered. 53 minutes ago, thebigblue said: I’m not saying it bias but it’s weird the us, German, Japanese and brit dd are all boringly predictable non steel progressions (except Kidd) and this Russian boat gets gimmicks unusual for its nation. Actually, on the German DDs I disagree heavily. And that's something I dislike about them. I find the progression from V-170 up until Z-46 to be really awkward, since the main guns and their performance change drastically with every Tier. Also, I want to clarify that the person I replied to specifically talked about timeframes, and how Neustrashimy would not belong into the game according to that. And well, if there was a timeframe to be applied to the game, we'd have to remove a number of French ships before even touching the Russian ships people complain about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites