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What happen to Myoko? I remember it being a solid ship, now as I grind snowflakses on these ARP + dragon ships I unable to perform at all. I get citadeled or receive heavy damage at any angle and all I can respond is few thousand damage with HE, as AP bounce off even light cruisers and where they hit the damage is even more laughable. Was it heavily nerfed by some major game update or something? Or it's just me derping around?.. 

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The Myoko family got a sigma buff and turret rotation buff recently. Other than that nothing has changed. It's you and not the ship, Myoko has always been a floating citadel.

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alright. maybe i just expected zao-like performance at her tier.  been too long since i took her for a ride

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Wow I remember when the ship was a tier 8, even at 7 she still sucks. 

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 Bad bote. Play OP Russian cruisers instead.

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29 minutes ago, Preteen said:

 Bad bote. Play OP Russian cruisers instead.

NYET!

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42 minutes ago, alex08060 said:

Wow I remember when the ship was a tier 8, even at 7 she still sucks. 

 

33 minutes ago, Preteen said:

 Bad bote. Play OP Russian cruisers instead.

 

I beg to differ....

 

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It's a strong bote when played to it's strengths. The HE hits hard and the AP will flat wreck a broadside cruiser. The torps have horrible angles but have good range and hit like a truck. It's not an open water bote unless you can do it and nobody notice you.

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13 minutes ago, theLaalaa said:

 

 

I beg to differ....

 

 This is Nachi which is a premium ship, stronger than regular tech tree ships. Also it is only 1 game, confirmation bias.

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10 minutes ago, Preteen said:

 This is Nachi which is a premium ship, stronger than regular tech tree ships. Also it is only 1 game, confirmation bias.

Nachi is only premium by symbol.. it's not better than the standard Myoko, it is the Standard Myoko with a uinque skin and ARP  (which make it Premium, in name only, not in bonuses or ability)  In fact it's slightly worse than the Tech Myoko, as the ARP ship can't use any other camo and loses out on additional Stealth bonus.

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13 minutes ago, Preteen said:

 This is Nachi which is a premium ship, stronger than regular tech tree ships. Also it is only 1 game, confirmation bias.

Nachi is exactly identical to Myoukou in every way except for the fact that she (and all other ARP clones) can't use camouflage, which actually makes her slightly worse than her regular counterpart.

Also ARP ships don't get premium bonuses. They aren't really premium ships at all, just exclusives.

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7 minutes ago, Flashtirade said:

Nachi is exactly identical to Myoukou in every way except for the fact that she (and all other ARP clones) can't use camouflage, which actually makes her slightly worse than her regular counterpart.

Also ARP ships don't get premium bonuses. They aren't really premium ships at all, just exclusives.

 If Nachi is not a premium ship then explain why she falls in the category of premium ships when it comes down to snowflake coal reward. You are so wrong. I am hyper unicum, I know those things better. Next.

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4 minutes ago, Preteen said:

then explain why she falls in the category of premium ships when it comes down to snowflake coal reward.

Because of an ability to accept other captains without retraining, perhaps?

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6 minutes ago, Preteen said:

 If Nachi is not a premium ship then explain why she falls in the category of premium ships when it comes down to snowflake coal reward. You are so wrong. I am hyper unicum, I know those things better. Next.

seeing that you are probably being sarcastic,  but yeah, it's not a "Premium" as defined by other premiums who get  Additional bonuses baked into the Camo of the ship, ( Bonus XP, Silver, Reduced costs, etc)  ARP ships are only listed as Premium due to their Uniqueness/Exlusivity, and the ability to accept any other ARP commander (at the time they were introduced) and now IJN as well, without penalty.

 

In the Event you aren't being Sarcastic,  Lord help your ignorance.

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1 hour ago, Capt_PepsiHolic said:

It's a strong bote when played to it's strengths. The HE hits hard and the AP will flat wreck a broadside cruiser. The torps have horrible angles but have good range and hit like a truck. It's not an open water bote unless you can do it and nobody notice you.

^This.  You can get severely punished by showing broadside and unfortunately with relatively short range guns you have to be just close enough to shoot but no closer (which is hard to do).  Also, I run the 203s (and still do well) and I believe most people run the 152s with IFHE (I won't make the switch until I have the extra skill points for that to give it a try).  I have the ARP ships as well and play them the same as my Myoko.  I do notice that people love to focus the Myoko/ARP ships and that's not fun at all.  Best games are where I am kiting ships or where I am able to hit ships that are focused on other closer ships.

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6 minutes ago, dashtardly said:

^This.  You can get severely punished by showing broadside and unfortunately with relatively short range guns you have to be just close enough to shoot but no closer (which is hard to do).  Also, I run the 203s (and still do well) and I believe most people run the 152s with IFHE (I won't make the switch until I have the extra skill points for that to give it a try).  I have the ARP ships as well and play them the same as my Myoko.  I do notice that people love to focus the Myoko/ARP ships and that's not fun at all.  Best games are where I am kiting ships or where I am able to hit ships that are focused on other closer ships.

Myoko/ARPs are all 203. The Mogami has the 152/203 option.

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4 minutes ago, Capt_PepsiHolic said:

Myoko/ARPs are all 203. The Mogami has the 152/203 option.

Thanks for the clarification (I got the two mixed up).  I was thinking of the Mogami. I only have the ARP Myokos (and no longer have the Tech Tree Myoko in my port).

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Actually mogami has the 155mm, not 152.

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7 minutes ago, mixmkz said:

Actually mogami has the 155mm, not 152.

I guess the 3mm makes a big difference to the Japanese.  :Smile_trollface:

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Myoko and her clones could do with a regular Cruiser Repair Party in lieu of any other gimmicks; maybe a modest base concealment buff to better compete against CSM+CE built Mogamis and Atagos too.

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16 minutes ago, YamatoA150 said:

Myoko and her clones could do with a regular Cruiser Repair Party in lieu of any other gimmicks; maybe a modest base concealment buff to better compete against CSM+CE built Mogamis and Atagos too.

The IJN CAs no longer need any buffs.  All the IJN 203mm armed CAs got "Zao accuracy" and land a horrifying amount of shells.

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I play my Southern Dragon occasionally, not so much because I love the Myoko but it's just so freaking cool to look at, it's the only clone that I've left skinned. I'll have to take it for a spin this morning.

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3 hours ago, Citrusss said:

What happen to Myoko? I remember it being a solid ship, now as I grind snowflakses on these ARP + dragon ships I unable to perform at all. I get citadeled or receive heavy damage at any angle and all I can respond is few thousand damage with HE, as AP bounce off even light cruisers and where they hit the damage is even more laughable. Was it heavily nerfed by some major game update or something? Or it's just me derping around?.. 

Honestly I think it is just playing in an unfamiliar ship. I just ground out of it to the next tier and kept it. I thought it was an excellent ship and I loved her.

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