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Currently I am considering whether or not to buy the Lo Yang. I know it has a decent reputation, and the upcoming Chinese New Year camo looks good. Getting some steel as a bonus would be nice too. I have never gone up the US DD tree to play a Benson, so I don't know how Chinese Benson plays. All the videos I've found of Lo Yang are pretty dated from 1-2 years ago, when the game was different in some mechanics, and the roster of potential adversaries (all the bloody radar cruisers!) was much smaller. So I'm somewhat wary of what I see in the videos.

To all the Lo Yang owners out there: Would you recommend a purchase? How does Lo Yang fare in your opinion in the current meta? Gudbote? :cap_hmm:

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A good general purpose Lo Yang build:  http://bit.ly/2LFyoO9

ETA take a look at my German DD vids.  I talk a bit about how I deal with radar, particularly in Z-52.

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4 minutes ago, Destroyer_KuroshioKai said:

A good general purpose Lo Yang build:  http://bit.ly/2LFyoO9

ETA take a look at my German DD vids.  I talk a bit about how I deal with radar, particularly in Z-52.

Thanks, but not really what I'm asking. I deal with radar cruisers fine. Do you think Lo Yang is worth buying right now? How well do you think it does in the current meta?

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The proliferation of radar has definitely power-crept hydro, and since the slow-velocity guns aren’t great at range, the Lo Yang suffers even more than the German DD line. Also, the buff of German hydro to 6k doesn’t help either.  I’d say it’s merely “ok” now.

At T8 I prefer the Harekaze as a premium hybrid DD. It got the IJN HE pen buff but didn’t suffer the corresponding nerfs. It’s 1/2 Akizuki and 1/2 Kagero.

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The LoYang is a good boat. I bought it a while back when it was on sale in the Tech Tree and than used it to reach Rank 1 in a season of Rank. Its a C hull Benson which means only 4 guns but you get a great Hydro that can be used to control a cap while sitting in smoke or spotting Destroyers when they hid in their smoke so your team can blap them. The Torpedoes are useful and she can handle her own in a gun fight. Added bonus if you decide to go up the Pan Asia Destroyer line you have a solid Trainer. 

If you like playing Destroyers and want a good cap fighter than buy the LoYang.  

I'm also looking forward to the new camos coming for the LoYang and Anshan, another PanAsia ship I've used to reach Rank 1 twice.

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Let’s start with the good:

The Lo Yang is a very competitive ship and probably the best at her tier for contesting caps.  Her gimmick is extremely powerful against other DDs, and unless they’re a Black, or have tier IX-X German hydro, other DDs have no option but to concede an area to her. Her hydro is better than the TVIII Z-23 and comparable to the higher tier KMS hydros. 

 

The bad:

Her durability is lackluster. She has less health than the Benson, and when she inevitably gets uptiered, even IJN DDs will outgun her. Her damage is lackluster since you have the gimpy C-Hull benson with only 4 turrets and stock benson torps.

 

Overall, I think she’s slightly better than the Benson due to her ability to contest caps, but I still think she lags behind the Kidd. With the amount of radar, the Lo Yang can’t really utilize hydro + smoke like she used to. When she faces Yugumos and Shimakazes she really suffers since they have 6 guns (50% more than you!) with higher alpha and much better shell arcs. And they outspot you. 

Still, at the end of the day, she’s a US DD and they always do well. She has four decent guns and 10 decent toros to fall back on so even without the hydro she’s still a very decent ship.

TLDR: Kidd is better, but Lo Yang is fine.

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I have 7 tier 8 DDs;
Asashio
Harekaze
Cossack
Lo Yang
Kidd
Lighning
Le Terrible

I consider Lo Yang to be the best of that bunch. In one of the tier 8 ranked seasons, Lo got me to rank 10. I believe that I could've ranked out with Lo had it been tier 8 all the way. IMHO, Lo Yang is worth getting.
 

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Lo Yang is a decent destroyer that has hydro, allowing you to contest caps. It has less firepower since it only has four guns with bad arcs, and it's also not very durable, but it's still able to contest cap zones well.

A better anti-destroyer destroyer would be the Kidd imo, but it's not as versatile as Lo Yang

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hydro OP, but HP and guns and torps lacking

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Probably the best tier 8 destroyer.

Improved hydro to bully caps.

US guns.

Only downside is not being able to torp destroyers.

She is a very good mid to late game killer.

Can bully caps.

Highly recommend if your somewhat competent US destroyer player.

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I like seeing Lo Yangs on my team.

Great Hydro coupled on a stealthy DD with great smoke consumable, unlike German DDs.

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7 minutes ago, dEsTurbed1 said:

Only downside is not being able to torp destroyers.

lo yang has regular torps, not DWT

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8 hours ago, Super_Dreadnought said:

Currently I am considering whether or not to buy the Lo Yang. I know it has a decent reputation, and the upcoming Chinese New Year camo looks good. Getting some steel as a bonus would be nice too. I have never gone up the US DD tree to play a Benson, so I don't know how Chinese Benson plays. All the videos I've found of Lo Yang are pretty dated from 1-2 years ago, when the game was different in some mechanics, and the roster of potential adversaries (all the bloody radar cruisers!) was much smaller. So I'm somewhat wary of what I see in the videos.

To all the Lo Yang owners out there: Would you recommend a purchase? How does Lo Yang fare in your opinion in the current meta? Gudbote? :cap_hmm:

One of my favorite ships. I'm close to a 19 point captain with her, one point from getting Demo Expert which will make her so much more fun. She plays similar to an Atlanta and shines if you spec her for escort duty with Vigilance and Hydroacoustics. 

I've spec'd and respec'd her more times than I care to admit and I've found Preventive Maintenance, Last Stand, Survivability Expert, Superintendent, Vigilance, Demo Expert, and Concealment Expert to be optimal.

Protect your BBs from torpedoes and allow chaos theory to net you wins. 

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8 hours ago, Super_Dreadnought said:

Currently I am considering whether or not to buy the Lo Yang. I know it has a decent reputation, and the upcoming Chinese New Year camo looks good. Getting some steel as a bonus would be nice too. I have never gone up the US DD tree to play a Benson, so I don't know how Chinese Benson plays. All the videos I've found of Lo Yang are pretty dated from 1-2 years ago, when the game was different in some mechanics, and the roster of potential adversaries (all the bloody radar cruisers!) was much smaller. So I'm somewhat wary of what I see in the videos.

To all the Lo Yang owners out there: Would you recommend a purchase? How does Lo Yang fare in your opinion in the current meta? Gudbote? :cap_hmm:

Loyang is a solid ship.  

Ultimately, it depends on whether you want to and enjoy contesting capture points - the Loyang is a specialist at this; it doesnt do other things like open-water HE spamming like RU DDs do.  It struggles a bit against T10s, particularly German DDs who play a similar role but have much, much more HP.  But it is nevertheless a good, solid premium ship and worth buying if you like playing DDs and you like winning battles by taking strategic points. 

Good luck!

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It’s Prrhsps the best in its tier at cap bullying but really is not strong in other areas.

If you take the longer range torps you can have a 2nd phase to your game doing torping and spotting after your low health from knife fighting. Without the long range torps its very risky trying to torp at lower health

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For DDs with Hydro looking to leverage it against other DDs, spotting torpedoes, Lo Yang's Hydro in Tier VIII is only eclipsed by Z-52's Tier X German Hydro.

Torp Detection / Ship Detection Ranges

VIII Lo Yang 3.75km / 5.5km

VII Haida 2.5km / 3.5km

VI-X All RN DDs 3km / 3km

VI-VII German DDs 3km / 4km

VIII-IX German DDs to include VII Z-39 3.5km / 5km

X Z-52 4km / 6km

 

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On 12/29/2018 at 11:08 PM, MrDeaf said:

lo yang has regular torps, not DWT

You caught that did you....

So there is no downside. 

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Lot's of pros and cons

The best way to play her is getting some other cruiser or DD with you when you cap.

Low detection range, USN smoke and second best DD hydro in the game gives you a good advantage sniffing out the OpFor DD or protect yourself and the other boat from torps.

Use her as scout and harasser. 

 

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On 12/30/2018 at 12:00 AM, dEsTurbed1 said:

Probably the best tier 8 destroyer.

Improved hydro to bully caps.

US guns.

Only downside is not being able to torp destroyers.

She is a very good mid to late game killer.

Can bully caps.

Highly recommend if your somewhat competent US destroyer player.

Uh what?  Her torps work just fine on destroyers.

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On 12/30/2018 at 12:08 AM, MrDeaf said:

lo yang has regular torps, not DWT

Yeah, I remember a thread a while back where some guys were deriding lo Yang buyers for Ranked battles, calling them noobs who would get surprised by the failure of "its deep water torps" in DD fights.

I was like "Ummmm, guys..." but then I didn't say anything, in the event I might be up against them sometime.

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5 minutes ago, MannyD_of_The_Sea said:

Yeah, I remember a thread a while back where some guys were deriding lo Yang buyers for Ranked battles, calling them noobs who would get surprised by the failure of "its deep water torps" in DD fights.

I was like "Ummmm, guys..." but then I didn't say anything, in the event I might be up against them sometime.

Even still, those deepwater torps have caused a few DD captains to poop themselves and desperately turn in an attempt to survive... then there's that realization and internal screaming while I make a getaway or finish them off with my guns.

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