15 [S0L0] weesel_sniper Beta Testers 110 posts 9,465 battles Report post #1 Posted December 27, 2018 (edited) Got 1 yesterday I'm at 57 , just wondering. Edited December 27, 2018 by weesel_sniper Spelling Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
531 [CUTE] Shigure_DD Supertester, In AlfaTesters 2,046 posts 11,364 battles Report post #2 Posted December 27, 2018 People that started back in Alpha/CBT will have a lot more since it was pretty common back then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8,267 [GWG] BrushWolf [GWG] Supertester 27,211 posts 14,758 battles Report post #3 Posted December 27, 2018 7 minutes ago, Shigure_DD said: People that started back in Alpha/CBT will have a lot more since it was pretty common back then. They should be a lot more common than they are, some times neither team deserves the win. Not as common as they were in the early days before people started to learn that a win in the hand was worth more than a possible kill them all win later though. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,766 [SQUAD] TheKrimzonDemon Members 9,176 posts 11,689 battles Report post #4 Posted December 27, 2018 0 That's right, not one single draw in PvP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,523 [WOLF5] AJTP89 Supertester 4,446 posts 4,200 battles Report post #5 Posted December 27, 2018 Never had one in 2K battles. Now I think it's almost a bug when it happens, WG has almost eliminated them in WOWS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
531 [CUTE] Shigure_DD Supertester, In AlfaTesters 2,046 posts 11,364 battles Report post #6 Posted December 27, 2018 You used to see it a lot in the single cap mode if the time ran out it was a draw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,028 J30_Reinhardt Alpha Tester 10,267 posts 4,608 battles Report post #7 Posted December 27, 2018 29 minutes ago, Shigure_DD said: People that started back in Alpha/CBT will have a lot more since it was pretty common back then. Out of 2068 rando's, I have 29 draws. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
810 [NWNG] Counter_Gambit Members 3,072 posts 4,925 battles Report post #8 Posted December 27, 2018 I think I have 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
540 [A_51] Seaneroo Members 961 posts 30,796 battles Report post #9 Posted December 27, 2018 Three in random, eighteen in co-op. One thing that bugs me about how WG calculates W/L percentage is that they count draws as losses. The result is that if you have an equal number of wins and losses with a few draws, rather than having a 50% percentage, which is appropriate, you will have a percentage of less than 50%. Draws should count as 1/2 point rather than zero, as they are now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,550 [SYN] Kapitan_Wuff Members 8,256 posts 14,111 battles Report post #10 Posted December 27, 2018 Maybe 2, one was cause the server went down, probably the same for the other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
11,252 [WOLF3] HazeGrayUnderway Members 28,272 posts 24,681 battles Report post #11 Posted December 27, 2018 I remember at Launch, maybe late Open Beta there were a lot of draws. Lots of people complained about it and WG adjusted the system so that draws became much rarer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,801 [SALVO] Crucis Members 25,515 posts 27,504 battles Report post #12 Posted December 27, 2018 68 draws over 9964 Random battles. I fully expect that the vast majority of those were in Open Beta or just after full release before domination points were added to Standard battles. At that time, draws accounted for roughly 20% of battles, IIRC. Sometimes, it was because someone was capping out for a certain win, but then left the cap to go chase down that last enemy ship, thus screwing over his team. But most of the time, it was something much less dumb, like the two teams just battering each other and neither having the ability to take their enemy's cap in time. Adding domination points to Standard mode was desperately needed at the time, because there were simply far too many draws. 1 hour ago, BrushWolf said: They should be a lot more common than they are, some times neither team deserves the win. Not as common as they were in the early days before people started to learn that a win in the hand was worth more than a possible kill them all win later though. Very true, BrushWolf. Sometimes neither did or do deserve to win. OTOH, back then, there were times when there were teams that DID deserve to win, but just didn't have time to get to the enemy's cap or to cap it out, even if they could get there. Or those times when some schmuck actually was capping out, but cared more about chasing down that last enemy ship for more damage, thus throwing away a certain win (and more credits and XP). These were the most frustrating, because your team had done what it needed to do to win, and had someone capping out for the win, only to have that dolt throw it all away. Thankfully, with domination points, if your team does deserve to win, it'll be because they have a points lead and capping out isn't necessary. OTOH, capping is still available for trailing teams to pull one out of the proverbial hat, and turn a certain loss into a miraculous victory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
900 [NDA] vonKaiser Alpha Tester 2,902 posts 6,051 battles Report post #13 Posted December 27, 2018 I've got a few. Actually got this one a few nigths ago https://replayswows.com/replay/37832#stats Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,043 [BNKR] RagingxMarmoset Members 1,650 posts 2,806 battles Report post #14 Posted December 27, 2018 None so far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8,267 [GWG] BrushWolf [GWG] Supertester 27,211 posts 14,758 battles Report post #15 Posted December 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Crucis said: 68 draws over 9964 Random battles. I fully expect that the vast majority of those were in Open Beta or just after full release before domination points were added to Standard battles. At that time, draws accounted for roughly 20% of battles, IIRC. Sometimes, it was because someone was capping out for a certain win, but then left the cap to go chase down that last enemy ship, thus screwing over his team. But most of the time, it was something much less dumb, like the two teams just battering each other and neither having the ability to take their enemy's cap in time. Adding domination points to Standard mode was desperately needed at the time, because there were simply far too many draws. Very true, BrushWolf. Sometimes neither did or do deserve to win. OTOH, back then, there were times when there were teams that DID deserve to win, but just didn't have time to get to the enemy's cap or to cap it out, even if they could get there. Or those times when some schmuck actually was capping out, but cared more about chasing down that last enemy ship for more damage, thus throwing away a certain win (and more credits and XP). These were the most frustrating, because your team had done what it needed to do to win, and had someone capping out for the win, only to have that dolt throw it all away. Thankfully, with domination points, if your team does deserve to win, it'll be because they have a points lead and capping out isn't necessary. OTOH, capping is still available for trailing teams to pull one out of the proverbial hat, and turn a certain loss into a miraculous victory. I peaked at 14% and the rate was dropping fast when they made the changes. I don't think the changes were absolutely necessary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,801 [SALVO] Crucis Members 25,515 posts 27,504 battles Report post #16 Posted December 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, BrushWolf said: I peaked at 14% and the rate was dropping fast when they made the changes. I don't think the changes were absolutely necessary. I guess that it depends on how you view draws. I think that most players, myself included, at that time viewed the high draw rate as intolerable and said so … loudly … on this forum, causing WG to make the change. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8,267 [GWG] BrushWolf [GWG] Supertester 27,211 posts 14,758 battles Report post #17 Posted December 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, Crucis said: I guess that it depends on how you view draws. I think that most players, myself included, at that time viewed the high draw rate as intolerable and said so … loudly … on this forum, causing WG to make the change. The rate was too high but it was dropping fast so they should have waited to see where it would level out at and then decide if what if anything needed to be done. For reference I have 109 draws in 10285 matches over in WoT for a rate of right around 1% which is what I feel is a fair rate compared to the tiny fractions of that which many players that started after the change have. they should be rare but not so rare that players may not even know they exist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
15 [S0L0] weesel_sniper Beta Testers 110 posts 9,465 battles Report post #18 Posted December 27, 2018 That's what made me think about it, I haven't seen one in a while and it was a domination game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
819 [WOLFG] lAwawaIHawawal Beta Testers 4,320 posts Report post #19 Posted December 27, 2018 (edited) [Deleted] Edited January 29, 2019 by Woofship Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
837 [KIA-A] Hanger_18 Beta Testers 3,410 posts 5,761 battles Report post #20 Posted December 27, 2018 apparently 1 @SireneRacker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
395 [BUOY] lloyd1701 Members 1,104 posts 15,289 battles Report post #21 Posted December 27, 2018 1, A standard battle which went 20 minutes and ended up with 1 BB alive on each team and each team having blocked the other's cap for the exact same amount of time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
531 [CUTE] Shigure_DD Supertester, In AlfaTesters 2,046 posts 11,364 battles Report post #22 Posted December 27, 2018 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
105 [BIG-7] _Guest_ Beta Testers 391 posts 12,813 battles Report post #23 Posted December 27, 2018 One with almost 6000 battles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,836 [SIDE] thebigblue Members 4,939 posts Report post #24 Posted December 27, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, weesel_sniper said: Got 1 yesterday I'm at 57 , just wondering. Well I’m not quite as old as you and don’t really know the exact number of draws. Used to be exclusively tighty whities, then as an adult my preference turned to cotton boxers. My career field is quite active and very physical so now it’s exclusively under armor compression shorts. Chafing sucks. All told I’d say I have about 20 draws between the house, my bunk room and my various bug out bags. Edited December 27, 2018 by thebigblue 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
507 [O7] Kevik70 [O7] Beta Testers 1,615 posts 10,339 battles Report post #25 Posted December 27, 2018 Had one in Ranked, that was rather annoying since we killed their last ship a second before our last died. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites