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https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/public-test/public-test-080/

But wait, what is this I see WG?

"The new concept assumes that players are only capable of effectively controlling one thing at a time: either a squadron or the aircraft carrier. You can control an aircraft carrier only when all of your squadrons are ready for takeoff, or returning to the ship. An aircraft carrier is controlled with the WASD keys like other ships, or via the Tactical Map."

Um, WG you might want to rephrase that better.

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""The new concept assumes that players are only capable of effectively controlling one thing at a time: either a squadron or the aircraft carrier."

Like I said before, WG is showing their true colors as to just how low an opinion they have of their customers.

 

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Wargaming should remove concealment, aa, smoke, secondaries, WASD movememnt control & simultanous gunnery control from all warships. Because obviously "players are only capable of effectively controlling one thing at a time"

In future, we kindly ask WG to remove WASD directional control over battleships, cruisers and destroyers, when captains decide to aim and fire their guns (aiming and firing at the same time, is also questionable, maybe that shouldn't be allowed either.)

Wargaming does not think we are stupid, no obviously not, just intellectually challenged.

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1 hour ago, Hurlbut said:

 

Um, WG you might want to rephrase that better.

I think they mean what they say, they have been saying this since last September.

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If you play CVs, or have friends or clanmates who play CVs, I cannot stress how important it is to get on the PTS for 0.8.0 and then give WG your feedback.

DO NOT let them claim that no one spoke up before this went live.

 

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11 minutes ago, KilljoyCutter said:

If you play CVs, or have friends or clanmates who play CVs, I cannot stress how important it is to get on the PTS for 0.8.0 and then give WG your feedback.

DO NOT let them claim that no one spoke up before this went live.

 

No one likes it, but honestly, WG's opinion of the average player in this game is spot on...most of them can't walk and chew gum. 

The issue is not that these people are all incapable, simply that the game isn't engaging enough to keep them playing, or bother to learn the complicated mechanics in what is in reality an arcade game.....

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32 minutes ago, KilljoyCutter said:

If you play CVs, or have friends or clanmates who play CVs, I cannot stress how important it is to get on the PTS for 0.8.0 and then give WG your feedback.

DO NOT let them claim that no one spoke up before this went live.

 

Not just CV players. I'm going to be checking out the new flak mechanics, survivabilty, etc.

If it looks like it's going to be pointless to play anything else but a CV, you can bet I'll squawk 7700 on 121.5 MHz loud and clear.

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1 hour ago, So_lt_Goes said:

Not just CV players. I'm going to be checking out the new flak mechanics, survivabilty, etc.

If it looks like it's going to be pointless to play anything else but a CV, you can bet I'll squawk 7700 on 121.5 MHz loud and clear.

The PTS isn't likely to have enough players to fill matches with all live players.  It will be just like the TST tests where you won't really know how things are going to be until it goes live.

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1 hour ago, Slimeball91 said:

The PTS isn't likely to have enough players to fill matches with all live players.

Perhaps, but I would happily bet a sixer of cold ones that this is the most popular PT ever.

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4 hours ago, So_lt_Goes said:

Not just CV players. I'm going to be checking out the new flak mechanics, survivabilty, etc.

If it looks like it's going to be pointless to play anything else but a CV, you can bet I'll squawk 7700 on 121.5 MHz loud and clear.

I also plan to do this. Spec AA and test good and bad AA botes against the Refark.

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I'm quite for the rework but....jeez. Say it's a balance issue or something to bring a rise in confidence. I'm all for fessing up though I don't think many of those already skeptical are going to take that well. You naughty people with all that hand/eye coordination.....look at what you made them do!

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11 minutes ago, Sumseaman said:

I'm quite for the rework but....jeez. Say it's a balance issue or something to bring a rise in confidence. I'm all for fessing up though I don't think many of those already skeptical are going to take that well.

Agreed. I’m for the rework as well be wow WG really? You could be a little more diplomatic about it. 

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4 hours ago, Sumseaman said:

I'm quite for the rework but....jeez. Say it's a balance issue or something to bring a rise in confidence. I'm all for fessing up though I don't think many of those already skeptical are going to take that well. You naughty people with all that hand/eye coordination.....look at what you made them do!

 

3 hours ago, Forgottensoldier117 said:

Agreed. I’m for the rework as well be wow WG really? You could be a little more diplomatic about it. 

It's like an insult layer cake.

They expect us to be dumb enough to believe that it's about balance and better gameplay, when it's just about the console version and sharing dev work across platforms.

Then their excuses (such as "our players aren't able to walk and chew gum at the same time") are just as insulting as the lie.

 

 

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1 minute ago, KilljoyCutter said:

 

It's like an insult layer cake.

They expect us to be dumb enough to believe that it's about balance and better gameplay, when it's just about the console version and sharing dev work across platforms.

Then their excuses (such as "our players aren't able to walk and chew gum at the same time") are just as insulting as the lie.

 

 

I don’t think it’s just about console version. I think RTS controls come with a lot of baggage the keep a lot of people from being able to enjoy the current CVs. I’m staying optimistic about the rework but I really dislike that the line about not being able to control two things at a time it’s just a flat out stupid thing to say in an official post on the homepage. 

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9 hours ago, KilljoyCutter said:

If you play CVs, or have friends or clanmates who play CVs, I cannot stress how important it is to get on the PTS for 0.8.0 and then give WG your feedback.

DO NOT let them claim that no one spoke up before this went live.

 

While I am sure the change had something to do with balance, I think this change is all about porting it over to the consoles. Everything about the new interface screams console controller ease, and XBox consoles run on a version of windows 10.....

While they say it has to be that users can only control one thing at a time, what they are really saying is that Console users do not have the controls to do that. What we want to do is reduce the work we have to do to get WoWS on consoles.

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I strongly encourage all people who play dds or CVs join so that WG can get serious feedback to help fix problems I expect will potentially wreck both classes.

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4 hours ago, Forgottensoldier117 said:

Agreed. I’m for the rework as well be wow WG really? You could be a little more diplomatic about it. 

What the hell, I'll play devil's advocate here.  You all realize that they are Russian and this would hardly be the first time there has been questionable translations to English in their patch notes right?

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10 minutes ago, _HatTrick_ said:

What the hell, I'll play devil's advocate here.  You all realize that they are Russian and this would hardly be the first time there has been questionable translations to English in their patch notes right?

Your right a translation issue it might be but still someone along the line probably should have noticed it and tried to have it worded less bluntly. 

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22 minutes ago, Billy2Hawks said:

While I am sure the change had something to do with balance, I think this change is all about porting it over to the consoles. Everything about the new interface screams console controller ease, and XBox consoles run on a version of windows 10.....

While they say it has to be that users can only control one thing at a time, what they are really saying is that Console users do not have the controls to do that. What we want to do is reduce the work we have to do to get WoWS on consoles.

Broken record time,  but it is not about the console version.  The fact that it will work better for consoles is a byproduct of the rework.  BUT if the version that worked on PC was profitable and attracted a large enough part of the playerbase,  they wouldn't be changing it.  It's basic business,  if a product works,  keep pushing it,  if it doesn't,  change it.  Not enough people were playing the ship class,  translating into less money spent paying for free experience to ship tiers,  less money spent on premiums,  so on and so fourth.  If I had to wager I'd say the sales on their premium CV's were less then other ship classes.

CVs were and are not popular currently.  Wargaming is trying to change that into something that more people are likely to enjoy.  The sheer amount of tinfoil hattery and sticking of fingers into ears and screaming "LA LA LA!" is gettin' real old.

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12 hours ago, KilljoyCutter said:

""The new concept assumes that players are only capable of effectively controlling one thing at a time: either a squadron or the aircraft carrier."

Like I said before, WG is showing their true colors as to just how low an opinion they have of their customers.

 

To be fair, WG isn't wrong.  People can't even understand how to island hide or stop shooting till they get to cover.  Very simple concepts, that are beyond most of the player base.

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So, FAQ on CV Rework is up. 52 minute long. Weeeee. So they said the beta tests, or implied, show the core mechanics of the Rework is sound enough for live release/PT. That they'll balance individual ships once the Rework is on live server.

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21 hours ago, Hurlbut said:

https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/public-test/public-test-080/

But wait, what is this I see WG?

"The new concept assumes that players are only capable of effectively controlling one thing at a time: either a squadron or the aircraft carrier. You can control an aircraft carrier only when all of your squadrons are ready for takeoff, or returning to the ship. An aircraft carrier is controlled with the WASD keys like other ships, or via the Tactical Map."

Um, WG you might want to rephrase that better.

On reddit Sub says it is a translation error. 

 

@Radar_X might want to chime in now. 

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