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I was wandering if someone thought about intreducing US Navy Evarts or John C. Butler-class destroyer escort

Don't know exacly where they would fit in the tier system

Early ones were armed with 3 76mm dual purpose guns and 1 tripple torpedo launcher plus 20mm AA guns and the late ones 127mm DP replaced the 76mm

They went between 21 and 24 knots so faster than a Blackswan but slower than anything else

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The Butlers were one of the better Destroyer Escorts out there and were equipped for a secondary role as a surface combatant rather than purely for ASW work.  All of the Butlers as far as I can tell carried two of the ubiquitous 5 inch/38 caliber DP guns rather than the three 3 inch guns of earlier escorts and each could reach a top designed speed of around 24 knots.  

To be competitive she'd have to be placed in the lower tiers, maybe tier II.  Her guns and longer range torpedoes might allow her to offset her comparatively slow speed and shortage of torpedo tubes when compared to other DD's.  Once you reach Tier III you're probably stretching things for her a bit as her weaknesses when acting in the destroyer role would become more obvious. 

Another interesting but related type were the Escort Destroyer (not Destroyer Escorts) built by the Royal Navy.  These were more destroyer like and were envisaged as vessels capable of escorting other warships as well as convoys.  They tended to be faster (around 27 -28 knots), carry a more powerful gun battery (four 4 inch DP guns being typical)  and a few carried torpedoes (maybe two dual tube launchers).  

In WOWS, their greater speed and more powerful gun batteries would probably allow these ships to operated maybe up through Tier IV before they would be clearly overmatched. 

Really, the bread and butter for both of these classes were ASW and AA protection of convoys rather than as fleet units (thought both types were forced to function in that role in rare situations).  They would be most useful if and when WG adds Submarines to the game at which point the extensive ASW capabilities for these ships would begin to shine. 

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1 hour ago, BB3_Oregon_Steel said:

The Butlers were one of the better Destroyer Escorts out there and were equipped for a secondary role as a surface combatant rather than purely for ASW work.  All of the Butlers as far as I can tell carried two of the ubiquitous 5 inch/38 caliber DP guns rather than the three 3 inch guns of earlier escorts and each could reach a top designed speed of around 24 knots.  

To be competitive she'd have to be placed in the lower tiers, maybe tier II.  Her guns and longer range torpedoes might allow her to offset her comparatively slow speed and shortage of torpedo tubes when compared to other DD's.  Once you reach Tier III you're probably stretching things for her a bit as her weaknesses when acting in the destroyer role would become more obvious. 

Another interesting but related type were the Escort Destroyer (not Destroyer Escorts) built by the Royal Navy.  These were more destroyer like and were envisaged as vessels capable of escorting other warships as well as convoys.  They tended to be faster (around 27 -28 knots), carry a more powerful gun battery (four 4 inch DP guns being typical)  and a few carried torpedoes (maybe two dual tube launchers).  

In WOWS, their greater speed and more powerful gun batteries would probably allow these ships to operated maybe up through Tier IV before they would be clearly overmatched. 

Really, the bread and butter for both of these classes were ASW and AA protection of convoys rather than as fleet units (thought both types were forced to function in that role in rare situations).  They would be most useful if and when WG adds Submarines to the game at which point the extensive ASW capabilities for these ships would begin to shine. 

Hunt Class, Type III fits this with one set of triple torpedo tubes and two twin turrets. The Type Is had two turrets but no torps, and the Type IIs had three twin turrets but no torps. A/S escorts mostly, like the DEs. RN war emergency flotilla destroyers were also built with a modified Jervis hull and machinery but 4 single 4.7-inch guns like Gallant, some with one set of quad tubes, some without.m All were excellent dual-role ships, for fleet or escort work. Z-class and C-Ca-Ch-Cr class had 4 single 4.5-inch like the Battles, but with the 4.7-inch turret and 40-degree max elevation. Weapons class would be top of the heap in a line split. Would need a line split like the IJN DDs to fit everything in. The RN had DEs, as Captain Class frigates, be a real mixup.

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The USN built both Destroyer Escorts (DE) and Escort Destroyers (DDE). DE's were slow, convoy escorts, while DDE's were pretty much full-fledged, full speed destroyers that gave up a portion of their surface combat armament for anti-sub and anti-air weapons.   Other Allied nations had DE's, though they also called them by other designations, such as frigate or corvette.

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Well, DDE's were a postwar concept adopted by the USN in order to prolong the life and usefulness of WWII DD designs.  By and large, WW II destroyer designs were not capable of operating the larger and more capable sonar and ASW weapons outfits that were developed post war without losing a substantial part of their existing armament.  This was particularly true of the smaller Fletcher class DD's which often required the removal of over half their gun mounts and all of their torpedo armament to fill this role.  

Around 1962, the navy realized that the missions of destroyers had evolved to erase the mission differences between DDE's and DD's and merged the classification into the DD designation. 

While DDE's did exist post war, none of the ships which carried that designation were built to that design.  All DDE's had been constructed as DD's and for the most part were still considered part of their named classes (Fletcher, Allen M Summer, Gearing) and were converted to ASW and Air Defense specialist vessels.  

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