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PSA about P.E. Friedrich AA

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Just wanted to give those who may not know this a heads up over the Weekend and Holidays which means a lot of CVs. I have found that the P.E. Friedrich while not an Atlanta does still seem to have surprising AA when my CV planes have attacked the ships. So wanted to give anyone using tier V-VII CVs a heads up about it ( Have not tried using a tier 8 against it yet).

And anyone that can afford to buy the ship can have some fun trolling the CVs that are plentiful at the moment lol. I did find these turn of events intriguing so wanted to share it, since was quite the surprise when you don’t lose planes to tier VI BBs like that unless it’s a QE of course. Minimum of 17 days until I get to possibly try my hand at being PEF side of such battles lol.

When I havenot been using my CVs and playing in a mid tier ship with weaker AA, I find escorting a PEF has been nice idea. Since I figure if I keep them safe from DD attacks then perhaps they can keep me safer from air attacks. After all team work even with random players you have never met before is always a nice way to play the game. :Smile_smile:

Good Luck and Fair Seas to all of you, and hopefully have an awesome Christmas and New Years. :Smile_honoring:

 

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Thanks, I'll steer clear with my Independence as i dust the snow off her flight deck: :Smile_honoring:.

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4 minutes ago, killsbane67 said:

Yes I noticed this with my Fred and spec for AA for ranked is a nice surprise for unsuspecting CV drivers.  

Lol enjoy it, took heavy aircraft losses on attack run with my torp bombers and have the skill that gives me extra Bomber per qidron and came away with only one bomber after that run.:Smile_amazed:

That’s when I realized the fun little bit of info about the P.E.F. AA lol. And since it has been unpleasant against other PEFs ( of course I needed to confirm in couple other battles to be entirely certain) it must be is base AA, since I doubt they were all AA Spec. So you should be able to have some fun. :Smile_smile:

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When CV rework goes live, her long range AA won't be so effective.

I have only eaten 1 bomb and 1 torp out of 3 matches.

I don't even bother with priority targeting the planes.

They melt so easily.

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Notser stated in his t6 tanked spirit video, P.EF AA scales extremely well with manul AA.

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6 minutes ago, Crokodone said:

Notser stated in his t6 tanked spirit video, P.EF AA scales extremely well with manul AA.

He is correct, PEFs AA is mostly frontloaded with massed 105s that get the max boost from manual AA.

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14 minutes ago, Crokodone said:

Notser stated in his t6 tanked spirit video, P.EF AA scales extremely well with manul AA.

Unless you have a dedicated captain, most captains will be secondary spec'd because you'll be using your GK, Bismarck, whatever German captain.  The AA is still very decent in that scenario. I didn't like that vid because he was using a captain build that isn't realistic to what most people will be throwing in there. 

On that note,  no one has mentioned her secondaries to any length and they are great when you get up close and personal. With flag, mine are at 7.6km range. 150mm with 37.5mm pen is also no joke at T6.  People don't know the ship well yet and there is some shock when those things start going off :-)

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1 hour ago, Admiral_Thrawn_1 said:

( Have not tried using a tier 8 against it yet).

Tested it on GZ
 

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20 minutes ago, General_Lee_Miserable said:

Unless you have a dedicated captain, most captains will be secondary spec'd because you'll be using your GK, Bismarck, whatever German captain.  The AA is still very decent in that scenario. I didn't like that vid because he was using a captain build that isn't realistic to what most people will be throwing in there. 

On that note,  no one has mentioned her secondaries to any length and they are great when you get up close and personal. With flag, mine are at 7.6km range. 150mm with 37.5mm pen is also no joke at T6.  People don't know the ship well yet and there is some shock when those things start going off :-)

Indeed, and many like myself that can’t pay cash for the ship will not be able to even possibly get the ship until 4th stage of event drops, and even then it will be tricky enough for people to get their hands on it. But when that time comes more people will be able to gain first hand experience with the ship and become more familiar with it. 

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47 minutes ago, General_Lee_Miserable said:

Unless you have a dedicated captain, most captains will be secondary spec'd because you'll be using your GK, Bismarck, whatever German captain.  The AA is still very decent in that scenario. I didn't like that vid because he was using a captain build that isn't realistic to what most people will be throwing in there. 

On that note,  no one has mentioned her secondaries to any length and they are great when you get up close and personal. With flag, mine are at 7.6km range. 150mm with 37.5mm pen is also no joke at T6.  People don't know the ship well yet and there is some shock when those things start going off :-)

37mm is the midships plating of Arizona. That means P.E.F could potentially secondary spam the tankiest usn BB and every and any cruiser in ranked to death; this is very significant. Especially when the torpedo range of most DDs will be within that secondary range.

As for Notser's captain build, some people have allot of captains laying around. And if a reserve captain isn't available, it takes around ~160 [not exact] elite commander exp to go from 1pt to 10pts if memory serves. That way you can choose to have secondaries or stealth. Its when younstart going for 14pts when captains start becoming expensive.

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15 minutes ago, TheDreadnought said:

I have a secondary specced PEF... and shot down 14 planes with her my first game.

I use my tank build bismark with bft and aft, no manual secondaries, and was able to shoot down most planes before being dropped on in ranked.

I was using aa and 2ndary flags also.

This ship us so stupid against planes that I only target the torpedo bombers.

Secondaries are so nice.

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My first initial impressions of this ship after using her in two battles was "OMG! What a superb piece of expletive term used to indicate solid bodily waste!" However, I did remember something @LittleWhiteMouse said in her review about captain's skill setup so I went back and checked out the AA/Secondary build and took my 12 pt captain from my Tirpitz and dropped him in the PEF. I reset his skills with PT, EM, AR, BFT & AFT. I also changed some of my 3rd and 4th upgrades to SBM2 and STM2.

Talk about a night and day difference. After playing my first four games with this ship and hardly getting any damage to speak of. My second game out with the new build has been the best so far. I'm starting to like this ship a little more and will probably add her to my premium BB play list.

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I gave up on full secondary spec; for whatever reason, I just haven't clicked well with her base accuracy. So Aim Mod instead of Secondary Mod was the only switch, and it has helped improve my shot consistency some.

But yeah, the boost to AA from still having AFT and BFT has resulted in more than one surprised and pissed off CV player.

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Yeah EM, AR, BFT, and AFT are pretty standard issue skills for my BBs if I am not sure what else to do, and they really suit German ships well. Reason I do those skills is for turret traverse, improved AA defense, and improved secondary gun performance vs DDs to at least scare the DDs enough to launch Torps farther out or sometimes not at all.

Other good skills for a ship like PEF would be SI, and CE to go with the above skills. My Gneisenau / Scharnhorst Captain would be great in P.E.F. especially since he is about level 18 and lacks the manual Secondaries skill that Bismarck gets in favor of stealth and all round performance at tier 7.

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