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So I managed to snag a 30% off coupon for my anniversary of this account playing for 2 years. 

Thinks to self "Great! I can buy some christmas containers without forking out my life savings

 

Reads fine print: "This coupon can only be used on undiscounted items" 

Peers into Premium Shop 

 

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It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas

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Can I just get an F 

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Many industries do not allow the stacking of coupons with already discounted items.

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2 minutes ago, Kizarvexis said:

Many industries do not allow the stacking of coupons with already discounted items.

Many businesses recognize when a customer believes the prices are too high.

WG, on the other hand...just drives us from the market in search of whales.

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3 minutes ago, Kizarvexis said:

Many industries do not allow the stacking of coupons with already discounted items.

The amount of money that they charge and call a discount is pretty high for a lot of people if I'm being honest, in comparison to many other games out there. 

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So don't spend money. That is the best way to show a business that you disagree with their prices. WG does not comb through these forums tho. They may or may not see this thread. Write a letter and mail it to WG. That is so rarely done now days that it may very well get more attention to the issue.

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Might want to change the title to avoid unnecessary mod involvement.

Just get 5 creates... You will fill happy about your self. Or dont spend at all and feel sorry for yourself for your solitary reason.

Is there a healthy solution to this physiological equation ?

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5 minutes ago, Navalpride33 said:

Might want to change the title to avoid unnecessary mod involvement.

Just get 5 creates... You will fill happy about your self. Or dont spend at all and feel sorry for yourself for your solitary reason.

Is there a healthy solution to this physiological equation ?

Incredibly tone deaf reply.

The man is complaining about how expensive everything is...and your solution is for him to GAMBLE at the casino. :Smile_facepalm: With an attitude like that, other countries are going to follow Belgium's lead...

 

Also, dude...don't buy Christmas containers. Pick a ship or premium time that you want to buy and get what you want. Gambling is for the rich whale. If you aren't the whale, don't do it.

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14 minutes ago, Kizarvexis said:

So don't spend money. That is the best way to show a business that you disagree with their prices. WG does not comb through these forums tho. They may or may not see this thread. Write a letter and mail it to WG. That is so rarely done now days that it may very well get more attention to the issue.

We do actually comb through these forums daily, and at all hours.

You have a significantly higher chance having your feedback seen here. I'm not sure a physical letter would even get to someone who could relay the feedback. 

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26 minutes ago, iEatChickenMcNuggets said:

So I managed to snag a 30% off coupon for my anniversary of this account playing for 2 years. 

Thinks to self "Great! I can buy some christmas containers without forking out my life savings

 

Reads fine print: "This coupon can only be used on undiscounted items" 

Peers into Premium Shop 

 

......................

 

It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas

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Can I just get an F 

We obviously appreciate the feedback.  While of course coupons aren't going to stack with discounted items, we certainly want to make sure you can make use of those.  We'll continue to make improvements where we can with this system.

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Actually depends on what you are after.  The boxes are a gamble if you are after a ship.  I stock up for the year on signals and camos, so I count on the Santa boxes to replenish.  Unfortunately, no Premium time drops this year, so I will have to use the Doubloons I get to buy it.    The gifts give 50 flags for $1 when they cost $3+ per 100.  I incidentally got 7 ships so far this year.  It is a bit irritating, though, when you can't use the coupons on everything.  i used mine on a set of undiscounted Black Friday boxes and got a couple of ships out of them.   That was an unintended successful gamble.  On the other hand, I was not able to use two WOWP coupons that are expired and two WOT coupons that are good for a few months because I didn't want any of the things that were not discounted.

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8 minutes ago, Navalpride33 said:

Might want to change the title to avoid unnecessary mod involvement.

Just get 5 creates... You will fill happy about your self. Or dont spend at all and feel sorry for yourself for your solitary reason.

Is there a healthy solution to this physiological equation ?

There isn't a healthy solution; I cannot wait until countries start to regulate gambling crates in gaming. Would make things a lot more better for gaming communities everywhere. 

 

6 minutes ago, Daniel_Allan_Clark said:

Incredibly tone deaf reply.

The man is complaining about how expensive everything is...and your solution is for him to GAMBLE at the casino. :Smile_facepalm: With an attitude like that, other countries are going to follow Belgium's lead...

 

Also, dude...don't buy Christmas containers. Pick a ship or premium time that you want to buy and get what you want. Gambling is for the rich whale. If you aren't the whale, don't do it.

I kind of wanted Christmas containers because I'm not after just ships, but the flags and camo that they give as well. Some doubloons would also be good. I am not one of those players that rage when I don't get a missouri after spending hundreds on these things lol. 

 

There really isn't a healthy solution to this, it's either you spend big or go home. At the end, the house always wins. 

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I think the point isn't to stack discounts.  The point is you cant use the coupon on a discounted item at all.  If the item is even 1 percent discounted, you can not use your coupon.  This is very strange behavior.

Usually the way it works is, the highest discount applies and the other discount is ignored.

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2 minutes ago, iEatChickenMcNuggets said:

There isn't a healthy solution; I cannot wait until countries start to regulate gambling crates in gaming. Would make things a lot more better for gaming communities everywhere. 

 

I kind of wanted Christmas containers because I'm not after just ships, but the flags and camo that they give as well. Some doubloons would also be good. I am not one of those players that rage when I don't get a missouri after spending hundreds on these things lol. 

 

There really isn't a healthy solution to this, it's either you spend big or go home. At the end, the house always wins. 

Fortunately, WG crates should be safe because the minimum value has always exceeded the cost of the crates.  I envy those players rolling in flags and camos - I am definitely not one of them.  And, I am not a whale - I buy a box or two here or there with occasional groups of five.  mainly small and medium.  I hope those that have issues with the crates just don't buy them and not mess it up for those of us that use them as gifts and to stock up.  Of course, that is just my opinion.

Truthful admission - I did not find the Halloween containers this year very rewarding and wish I had had the willpower to only buy a few.  that Steel Rat camo had me hooked, unfortunately.  That is the only time over the years in which I did not value the contents as much and will be leery of next year's Halloween containers.

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1 minute ago, ExploratorOne said:

Fortunately, WG crates should be safe because the minimum value has always exceeded the cost of the crates.  I envy those players rolling in flags and camos - I am definitely not one of them.  And, I am not a whale - I buy a box or two here or there with occasional groups of five.  mainly small and medium.  I hope those that have issues with the crates just don't buy them and not mess it up for those of us that use them as gifts and to stock up.  Of course, that is just my opinion.

Truthful admission - I did not find the Halloween containers this year very rewarding and wish I had had the willpower to only buy a few.  that Steel Rat camo had me hooked, unfortunately.  That is the only time over the years in which I did not value the contents as much and will be leery of next year's Halloween containers.

"Minimum value has always exceeded the cost of the crates"
[edited]. The 'value' of the pixels on the screen is precisely zero. They can not be converted into anything outside of the game. The 'value' quoted by WarGaming is pure fantasy.
 

It is circular reasoning to refer to the prices WarGaming sets on items as though that were the actual value of the item. It is not. The governments going after gambling rackets will not use such silly definitions...

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15 minutes ago, iEatChickenMcNuggets said:

There isn't a healthy solution; I cannot wait until countries start to regulate gambling crates in gaming. Would make things a lot more better for gaming communities everywhere. 

???? I dont see any gambling in these creates, to be honest everything was presented and tried be others.

Mega creates--- Doubs, Camos, Signals with a good chance 1/56 o get a ship. The only reason the chances are less is when you have all the ships in the game to begin with.

Big creates--- gives coal, signals, doubs, and a 1/56 chance of a ship. this is a sweat deal IMO.

Small creates---- of the "discounted" items.

WOWS has been doing this event for as long as I can remember  3 yrs at least. Its disappointing people would sour the experience of their event.

Value is in the eye of the beholder. One thing for sure, if you don;t have any ships now its a time to get a creates. Remember its a choice not to participate, as it is  not to sour the event for others.

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1 minute ago, Old_Baldy_One said:

I think the point isn't to stack discounts.  The point is you cant use the coupon on a discounted item at all.  If the item is even 1 percent discounted, you can not use your coupon.  This is very strange behavior.

Usually the way it works is, the highest discount applies and the other discount is ignored.

I came to the conclusion a while ago that the tiny discounts (WOWP is good at those) are placed there to purposefully exclude them.  It does not surprise me because businesses give coupons to move items that aren't selling as well.  i was surprised I could snag a bundle of Black Friday boxes with the coupon.  Right now, you can only get 5 Gifts with that coupon because they are not discounted, which is unfortunate.

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1 minute ago, Navalpride33 said:

???? I dont see any gambling in these creates, to be honest everything was presented and tried be others.

Mega creates--- Doubs, Camos, Signals with a good change 1/56 o get a ship. The only reason the chances are less is when you have all the ships in the game to begin with.

Big creates--- gives coal, signals, doubs, and a 1/56 chance of a ship. this is a sweat deal IMO.

Small creates---- of the "discounted" items.

WOWS has been doing this event for as long as I can remember  3 yrs at least. Its disappointing people would sour the experience of their event.

Value is in he eye of the beholder. One thing for sure, if you don; have any ships now its a time to get a creates. Remember its a choice not to participate, as it is  not to sour the event for others.

GL/HF

Happy Holidays.

 

Yet more marketing posts.
 

Why would I spend money on this game? To get a pixel ship that will be nerfed into oblivion (or more likely, has already been nerfed into oblivion)?

The actual odds to get there would have me spend the equivalent of a AAA game...to get a crap ship?

Coal is free....I get it by playing the game. Signals are free...I get them by playing the game. Doubloons are essentially just cash. I could just buy doubloons. I don't need to gamble for them.
 

Sure, it's a fun event. But it's like going to a casino. If you have the money and want to randomize what you get...that's fine, be the whale.

But if you aren't the whale...don't do it. Buy what will make you happy and be sure to get what you want.

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1 minute ago, Daniel_Allan_Clark said:

"Minimum value has always exceeded the cost of the crates"
[edited]. The 'value' of the pixels on the screen is precisely zero. They can not be converted into anything outside of the game. The 'value' quoted by WarGaming is pure fantasy.
 

It is circular reasoning to refer to the prices WarGaming sets on items as though that were the actual value of the item. It is not. The governments going after gambling rackets will not use such silly definitions...

The value of my R/C planes is exactly zero most of the time because i cannot get to the flying field very often.  Those thousands are similar to the amounts spent on golf equipment, the flying lessons I took, and the car accessories I have bought over the years.  The two boats in my back yard are now a liability because I have to move them and have nothing to tow them with anymore.  Value is relative. 

I have coworkers who collect sneakers.  These are guys that will drop $600 on a pair of sneakers.  One of them has over a 100 pairs.  And we are not very highly paid by any stretch of the imagination.  Value is relative.  As a musician, programmer, and writer, my product is intagible.  People pay for my work and effort, not the item.  i don't like the style Picasso paints in, but other value it at 6 figures.  I do not pay for the pixels in WOWS, I pay for the experiences, which are "real".  Value is relative.

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You could sell your R/C planes, your golf equipment, your car accessories, your boats, the sneakers.

They have actual value in the real world.

We cannot sell our flags, our camos, our ships to someone else in the real world. Ergo, the item has no value.

Casinos sell a fun experience in a great atmosphere. So does WarGaming. That doesn't change the fact that the experience is non-transferable and has no outside WG value. It doesn't change the fact that WG is a casino...and that the loot crate system is gambling and should be regulated as such.

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4 minutes ago, Daniel_Allan_Clark said:

But if you aren't the whale...don't do it. Buy what will make you happy and be sure to get what you want.

Perfect, in my opinion.  Keep the choices available and make the one that makes sense to you.

For example, I don't go to casinos and buy maybe four lottery tickets a year, most often as part of an office pool for the camaraderie.  My choice.

This thread is about coupons, though.   have only received one that was good on anything.  I think it was a 20%.  I think it would be nice if the one Anniversary coupon per year was good on anything.  That would make it special and something to look forward to.

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14 minutes ago, Daniel_Allan_Clark said:

You could sell your R/C planes, your golf equipment, your car accessories, your boats, the sneakers.

They have actual value in the real world.

We cannot sell our flags, our camos, our ships to someone else in the real world. Ergo, the item has no value.

Casinos sell a fun experience in a great atmosphere. So does WarGaming. That doesn't change the fact that the experience is non-transferable and has no outside WG value. It doesn't change the fact that WG is a casino...and that the loot crate system is gambling and should be regulated as such.

For a small percentage of what I put into them.  And, with a lot of time an effort (I have been an active ebay and classified seller in the past.)

I think the disconnect is the idea that money has intrinsic value.  money is an item that allows us to translate effort.  In simpler cultures a dairy farmer trades milk with a wheat farmer for flour.  In our culture it is very difficult to do the same thing.  Even in simpler cultures they have developed tokens that allow exchange.  I buy things on the basis of the number of hours of my effort they cost.  Money itself is a renewal resource and only has value when it used.

The last paragraph lost me and i did not expect you to take that path.  Gambling results not only in no return, it results in actual negative returns.  outside of the professional gamblers who actually make money, the vast majority of gamblers and lottery winners end up worse off than they started.  Unless you need the items being sold in the crates, you shouldn't buy them unless you want a thrill.  At no time have I gone negative through WG crates - I can't even equate Casino gambling to the crates.  but that is just me. 

I guess entrepreneurship should be restricted instead of encouraged.  If you want to talk about gambling with the option to irretrievably lose everything, that would be a good place to start... 

(Sorry for derailing this thread and ranting, but I guess I had to vent because it is irritating having other people trying to restrict something benign that I enjoy.  Can't players just not buy the crates instead of trying to take them away from the rest of us?  It is no skin off of their back if I spend funds that I worked hard to earn.)

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No worries.

I'm not trying to restrict it...so much as warn people who are at risk of losing money they need for other things (like rent and food) that when you go into WG's casino...you won't be getting anything tangible but the experience out of it.

I see so many whiny posts about how [edited] the RNG on the loot crates are...and I just want to smack people. It's gambling, of COURSE the RNG is [edited]. You don't have to buy the crates!

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2 hours ago, Daniel_Allan_Clark said:

and your solution is for him to GAMBLE at the casino.

2 hours ago, Daniel_Allan_Clark said:

The 'value' of the pixels on the screen is precisely zero

Gambling defined: Place a bet...you lose you get zero...you win you get a payout...but as far as you say whether you get the cheapest payout possible or if you happen to get the most expensive item you can possibly get from a game you still lose because that item is a pixel item & still worth zero...that's not gambling no matter which way you define it.

But Grats on being the 1st person to throw the "brainwashed media puppet" word of the ____(fill in blank w/any time frame you wish...day/week/month/year/minute/hour/second...etc./etc./etc.) out there"...at least in this thread.

BTW...money has no intrinsic value either...it's just an idea...backed by confidence...if the country issuing the $ is winning all of it's wars there's confidence that it will be able to back up the "value" of it...but once it starts to lose it's wars the "value" of it's $ drops.

Try taking any of your coins to a recycler & see how much your $ is really worth...& then on the flip side...try buying the paper that the bills are printed on & I guarantee you it's gonna be a lot more expensive than $1.00 for a sheet of it the size of a dollar bill...yet billions of 1 dollar bills are printed on it & truthfully the dollar is not worth the paper it is printed on.

So how do you regulate the value of pixels when the $ they charge for it is just as valueless/inflated in value?

 

2 hours ago, iEatChickenMcNuggets said:

I cannot wait until countries start to regulate gambling crates in gaming

Why are you jumping on the "gambling" bandwagon...if that's truly your viewpoint then why are you adding to the "problem" by buying Santa crates in the 1st place?

I bet you didn't use the term gambling last year when Santa crates were in the game...why start now?

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5 hours ago, Old_Baldy_One said:

I think the point isn't to stack discounts.  The point is you cant use the coupon on a discounted item at all.  If the item is even 1 percent discounted, you can not use your coupon.  This is very strange behavior.

Usually the way it works is, the highest discount applies and the other discount is ignored.

Not strange at all and as many have pointed out - many places do not allow stacking a discount on top of a discounted item. 

 

  The 'value' of the pixels on the screen is precisely zero. They can not be converted into anything outside of the game. The 'value' quoted by WarGaming is pure fantasy.

Incorrect - like anything else it a value which is what the majority would pay for one and that is it.  Much like anything else, it is basic business - business 101.  You may not agree with it and you can vote on that like any other business by not buying.

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