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I have been on the fence about getting this ship since I already have a stable full of BBs. But I finally made the decision to pick it up, being it's a very historical class in the Royal Navy.

I fully outfitted it and decked it out with camo and flags. Spent 10 minutes generating captains until I found one I liked with a good name and portrait. I looked at her armor layout to see what weaknesses she had and was pleasantly surprised to find heavy armor over a  citadel sunken well below the waterline - the complete opposite of the Nelson.

I took her into a co-op match for her first battle to get a feel for her and decided to play conservatively to make sure she survived.

And guess what? I was focused by the red bot CV and ALL their BBs even though other ships were spotted (the planes came straight at me spotted me first). The first hit did nearly 10k damage from max range and the second, a somewhat broadside hit, NAILED my nearly non-existent citadel and instantly took me to 1/3 health. The dive bombers then hit me and set me on fire, and I didn't last long after that, since all the red bots saw me practically dead, and in a slow BB, even angled and trying to get to cover (they set me on fire again  - 2 fires this time) and shelled me till I was dead. I was one of only two ships sunk on my team, the other was our DD.

So I rage sold the ship back in port and dismissed the commander. If someone who has nearly 15k co-op battles under his belt, with a lot of BB experience can't survive with max defense outfittlng and playing cautiously, something is VERY wrong with your coding. (Is there something in it which says new ships are the PRIME targets? Or is the armor layout shown in the game completely wrong and KGV actually has a massive citadel easily hit like the Nelson?)

But hey, thanks for allowing me to avoid the grind going up the tech tree on this ship. You just saved me a ton of time and real money I would spent on accelerating it to max stats to match my other ships. :Smile_honoring:

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14 minutes ago, capncrunch21 said:

If someone who has nearly 15k co-op battles under his belt

https://na.wows-numbers.com/player/1014929343,capncrunch21/

Hmmmmmm. Well since we're talking un-verified stuff I'm married to Emma Watson, know where Hoffa is buried, and am worth more than Bezos, Buffett, and Gates combined.

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Plays SINGLE match, gets focused and sunk, sells her and says something is wrong, all the while not actually telling us what he was facing?

 

 

 

Bit more information please.:cat_paw:

 

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2 minutes ago, J30_Reinhardt said:

https://na.wows-numbers.com/player/1014929343,capncrunch21/

Hmmmmmm. Well since we're talking un-verified stuff I'm married to Emma Watson, know where Hoffa is buried, and am worth more than Bezos, Buffett, and Gates combined.

WG knows my stats.

I'm glad my hidden stats foiled a stat-shamer like you - LOL!!!

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So, one whole match in a ship, and somehow you're the authority on how good or bad the ship is. Aha.

 

No.

 

Clearly, you tried to play her like a normal BB, except, she isn't one. Clearly, you tried to use all 3 turrets at once, when you shouldn't have. Someone with so many co-op rounds should know that the bots are lethally accurate, and if you expose your sides, which you have to, fully, to get all 3 turrets on KGV in action at once, you'll get obliterated. Also, clearly, you didn't maximize her AA, which you should have. More, you took a no rank captain on her, when ships benefit greatly from captains skills. Even more than that, RN BB's are very HE-negative, meaning HE wrecks them about as well as their HE wrecks other BB's, it's known as "balance."

 

tl;dr: One match, the experience of Yoda gives you not. Again, try you must.

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Hidden stats

Wants to be taken seriously

 

What's the connecting factor in here that I'm missing? These two don't mix well...

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Please tell us more about how bad KGV is, from your extensive experience of being humiliated by bots in a single co-op match. :fish_palm:

 

https://na.wows-numbers.com/ship/4182718416,King-George-V/

Stats don't lie. As of this post, by NA server stats, KGV is a close third in average win rate, and second in average damage.

 

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25 minutes ago, pewpewpew42 said:

Hidden stats

Wants to be taken seriously

 

What's the connecting factor in here that I'm missing? These two don't mix well...

^Bingo.  

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LOL....the SIMP guys I used to know in WoT were best of the best.  You have no right to be in a clan using that name.

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Look guys, I'm simply saying that with the skills and experience I have (which I have no need to e-peen through a public display of stats) that something is goofy in the state of St. Petersburg when I am singled out in a new ship and despite my best efforts and as much defensive equipment I could put on it - am the first one killed in a freaking co-op match (and one of only two ships killed on our side all together).

The KGV is by all stats a good ship, yet the bots in two shots reduce me to 1/3 health  - and then burn/blast me down the rest of the way within a pitiful amount of time. Come on - SOMETHING AINT RIGHT HERE. And I'll be damned if I am gonna play into whatever screwball coding WG has going on.  

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I dunno about his rage quit, just got this BB and am trying to figure out how to play it. I have a new captain, so not high skills yet.

Short range: So far it's not a very good brawler, seems to get cit-hit pretty easily and even angling doesn't help against many other T7 BBs, let alone T8+. Example, tried angling against an Alabama, it still wrecked me pretty bad. It doesn't seem to start fires any more often than other ships, so I don't see the point in doing HE -- it does dish out OK damage. It's fairly fast and maneuverable (for a BB), but so far that just means  get into trouble faster than I can get out.

Middle Range: Have trouble keeping this distance, probably play style since I like Brawler BBs like New Mexico and Bismark. Might be the best distance for ths BB.

Long Range: Too inaccurate, this is not a sniper.

Any ideas?? 

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On 12/17/2018 at 12:05 AM, capncrunch21 said:

Look guys, I'm simply saying that with the skills and experience I have (which I have no need to e-peen through a public display of stats) that something is goofy in the state of St. Petersburg when I am singled out in a new ship and despite my best efforts and as much defensive equipment I could put on it - am the first one killed in a freaking co-op match (and one of only two ships killed on our side all together).

The KGV is by all stats a good ship, yet the bots in two shots reduce me to 1/3 health  - and then burn/blast me down the rest of the way within a pitiful amount of time. Come on - SOMETHING AINT RIGHT HERE. And I'll be damned if I am gonna play into whatever screwball coding WG has going on.  

You bought a six sided die that was advertised to roll a 4, 5 or 6 sixty percent of the time and rolled it once, got a 1, declared it crap and threw it away.  You had an inadequate sample size to justify what you did.  Period.

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On the flipside, I've taken KGV fully decked out with a Dunkirk captain into Co-op and come out with three secondary kills of all things, and LIVED. RNG giveth and taketh away, maybe give the ship more of a chance.

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33 minutes ago, NeptunesInferno said:

Anybody who loses in Co-op, like ever, should quit the game permanently.   Don’t understand the co-op specialists. How does winning 95% of the time remain fun? 

Losses can be fairly easy in the early early morning when it's just you, another guy from another country, and the rest bots.

Co-op maintains its fun for me because I challenge myself to get as much base XP as possible in the shortest amount of time.

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35 minutes ago, NeptunesInferno said:

Anybody who loses in Co-op, like ever, should quit the game permanently.   Don’t understand the co-op specialists. How does winning 95% of the time remain fun? 

Yeah that is stupid. I have never "lost" a game of Galaga, Defender, Pac Man, etc etc, but they were fun. The same could be said of hundreds of games, does not make them any less fun. Not sure what the attraction of competitive video games are, I see zero point in it but whatever floats your boat. I would never tell anyone how to live their life or how they should spend their spare time and money. Course I don't feel the need to dictate to others like some sort of computer game nazi, must come with age/maturity.. 

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4 minutes ago, Taylor3006 said:

Yeah that is stupid. I have never "lost" a game of Galaga, Defender, Pac Man, etc etc, but they were fun. The same could be said of hundreds of games, does not make them any less fun. Not sure what the attraction of competitive video games are, I see zero point in it but whatever floats your boat. I would never tell anyone how to live their life or how they should spend their spare time and money. Course I don't feel the need to dictate to others like some sort of computer game nazi, must come with age/maturity.. 

 That’s very fair. I’m being cranky I guess .

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I only play co-op. I have only 11k battles done but I know: when ai focus on you....you are dead. All bot with los shoot at you and all planes come to you.

 

 

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KGV is pretty awesome in Randoms actually.  Although I haven’t played her in 8.0 yet.

Duke of Yuk might finally come into her own in the new CV meta with her better AA.

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I didn't care for KGV either, but it's not an objectively -bad- ship. Statistically, it's actually rather nice, for a tier 7, aside from the bad firing arcs that require you to give too much broadside to bring the back turret to bear. Co-op is a terrible environment for it, however, because it lacks alpha strike potential against battleships and even has trouble outright deleting cruisers if they're angled (which bot cruisers usually are). It's a pure HE spammer, and requires longer games in order to have an impact by stacking fires and just burning down enemies. Its play-making potential is almost nonexistent. This is probably why I hated it so much; it is very difficult to punish enemies for making mistakes or take advantage of other opportunities to knock somebody out quickly.

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King George V is one of my favorite BBs at any tier!!! 55% WR, average around 60K damage with her & high total around 150K damage. Personal best of 19 fires which is my highest total with any ship. I skipped the T8 Monarch and bought the T9 Lion with my free XP as she's very similiar to the KGV. Only thing I wish is her HP pool was larger. They are just fun ships to play and love to burn down bigger/badder ships. Play them to their strengths and expert loader is a must so you can change shell type quickly as needed.

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KGV has a 51% win rate for me, and 55K average damage. Its better than my Monarch and Iowa. Only my Montana does better at 65K average damage.

My beloved Bismarck and North Carolina come in at 45K average damage.

Just one game ? One and done ?

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