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What ship is this? (Solved)

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Screenshots from 'Godzilla raids again' from 1955. This ship was called 'Frigate T-10' in the movie, but it's obviously a WWII era destroyer. Doesn't even look Japanese to me, the gun turrets look like USN 127s to me and the fire director on top of the superstructure is distinctly American.

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What WWII era destroyer would Japanese filmmakers have access to in 1955? Or did they use stock footage?

<Edit> It's a Gleaves.

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Just now, CAPTMUDDXX said:

I'll go with stock footage!

Very likely. Still doesn't tell me what ship it is though. :Smile_hiding:

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probably either a Benson, Gleaves or Fletcher seeing as both front mounts are enclosed, if that hull number in the second pic was just a bit more clearer itd probably be easier to know, the best i can make out is its hull number might have 1 or 2 "5"s

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1 minute ago, jmanII said:

Round bridge earlier type Fletcher.

Aren't the smoke stacks a bit tall for that? I mean, the rest fits, but still ...

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Probably a Benson-class. The funnels are too tall for it to be a Fletcher-class DD. The angle isn't great, so it's hard to tell how many main batteries it has and if they're enclosed mounts or not.

 

EDIT: WAIT! Bensons were flush-deckers, right? So it can't be a Benson-class, as it looks like the deck isn't flush from now to stern.

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8 minutes ago, Lert said:

Aren't the smoke stacks a bit tall for that? I mean, the rest fits, but still …

I see what you mean - could also be a Gleaves - they had round bridges also.

The Bensons had flat sides funnels.

Best guess is USS Thompson (DD-627) probably from stock footage:

Operating with MineDiv 11, Thompson was based on the west coast for the remainder of the year. Beginning on 8 June 1953, she played the title role in Columbia Pictures's "The Caine Mutiny", the 1954 film. Operating out of San Francisco for one week, Thompson became the Caine, while serving as the model for many of the Columbia sets used in the filming of the on-board scenes.

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5 minutes ago, GhostSwordsman said:

Probably a Benson-class. The funnels are too tall for it to be a Fletcher-class DD. The angle isn't great, so it's hard to tell how many main batteries it has and if they're enclosed mounts or not.

Best side shot I could get:

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Not a flush decker, it has a step down around the waist. Looks like 4 gun mounts, enclosed, single barrel.

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A number of Gleaves class destroyers were transferred to the JMSDF in the mid-1950s.

It could be some of these.

From Wikipedia, so accuracy may vary.

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1 minute ago, DrHolmes52 said:

A number of Gleaves class destroyers were transferred to the JMSDF in the mid-1950s.

I think we have a winner. Some people mentioned Gleaves before as well, and it looks like it fits.

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14 minutes ago, Lert said:

Very likely. Still doesn't tell me what ship it is though. :Smile_hiding:

I spent years trolling through old Janes fighting ships back in the day trying to figure out what ships were used in this and the original Godzilla.........alas I failed :(

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I'm guessing they used stock footage for the ship as Information form WikiZilla(https://wikizilla.org/wiki/Godzilla_Raids_Again#Weapons.2C_Vehicles.2C_and_Races) does not list and ships used in the film.

If the footage was of one of the ship transferred to Japan after the war. Then the ship would be ether the DD454 USS Ellyson or DD458 USS Macomb both ship were part of the Gleaves class. This Information is found in Conway's All the world's fighting ships 1922-1946 book.

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A bit off topic, but, I am all for a map with Godzilla in it. :cap_rambo:

 

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4 minutes ago, Firerizer said:

A bit off topic, but, I am all for a map with Godzilla in it. :cap_rambo:

 

I know WoWs is arcade, but I don't think even Soviet BB's could kill it.

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2 hours ago, Firerizer said:

A bit off topic, but, I am all for a map with Godzilla in it. :cap_rambo:

 

 

For Halloween my youngest daughter wants us to take on one of "Pacific Rim's" kaijus... Because as she put it: "Daddy, you guys can't fight Godzilla! He would win! Duh!" 

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