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We really need to get some Italian ships out there to fight the French Cruisers
 
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T I:   Eritrea                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_sloop_Eritrea
T II:  Nino Bixio                 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nino_Bixio-class_cruiser
T III: Taranto
T IV: Giussano (lighter armor than Mont) / Cadorna about the same     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giussano-class_cruiser
T V:  Montecuccoli (lighter armor than Duca)                                             https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_cruiser_Raimondo_Montecuccoli
T VI: Trento
T VII: Duca d'Abruzzi (already done) should be here
TVIII: Zara [Premium Gorizia]                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zara-class_cruiser  
                    [Premium Bolzano]         https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trento-class_cruiser
 
Having had the T VI-VII done already doesn't leave a lot of wiggle room. Just killing time. :) 
 
*Adjusted it after viewing a few other lists on here and looking further into other ships.
Looks like WoWs development has started to work on this finally.
Lineup
I Eritrea
II Nino Bixio
III Taranto
IV Giussano
Montecuccoli
VI Trento
VII Zara (has no torps) messing with the design WoWs
VIII Verona
IX Torino
X Milano
 
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This is a pretty good suggestion. I think what WG should do is if they want to change a prem ship to a tech tree ship make a prem ship that's the same class as Duca or Abruzzi then give them those 2 ships for free and the tech tree ships for free, maybe throw in a perma camo. I don't think players would be mad about this, and that way the line can have the best suited ships rather then fill in the gaps with paper ships. I think they should've done this with the French BB's make Dunkerque a tech tree ship and add Strasbourg as a premium.

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I really want the Italian cruisers, contrary to most player I LOVE the Abruzzi. However, I doubt Zara will be T9, its a 1920s ship. I think they will put Trento at T7, Zara at T8, one Ansaldo project at T9, and the other at T10.

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Trento is definitely not Tier 8 worthy. That's like having the current New Orleans at Tier 8. Zara is definitely tier 8, Spanish project cruiser at Tier 9 and the Russian project at Tier 10. 

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The Washington Naval Conference of 1922 required naval parity Between the navies of France and Italy!! Where is it??

We are waiting!! :cap_tea:

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On 12/29/2018 at 12:02 PM, Guy_Number_One said:

I really want the Italian cruisers, contrary to most player I LOVE the Abruzzi.

If they'd just move the darn boats out of the way of the X turret it would solve a lot of her problems if you ask me. Still a fun ship though.

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On 12/7/2018 at 1:48 AM, Totenliste said:
We really need to get some Italian ships out there to fight the French Cruisers
 
Cruisers
T I:   Eritrea                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_sloop_Eritrea
T II:  Nino Bixio                 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nino_Bixio-class_cruiser
T III: Piemonte (slightly lower armor and less guns (2) than St. Louis but has 3 Torp Tubes and same speed) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_cruiser_Piemonte
T IV: Giussano (lighter armor than Mont) / Cadorna about the same     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giussano-class_cruiser
T V:  Montecuccoli (lighter armor than Duca)                                             https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_cruiser_Raimondo_Montecuccoli
T VI: Duca d'Aosta (already done)
T VII: Duca d'Abruzzi (already done)
T VIII: Trento  [Premium Bolzano]         https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trento-class_cruiser
T IX: Zara [Premium Gorizia]                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zara-class_cruiser
 
Having had the T VI-VII done already doesn't leave a lot of wiggle room. Just killing time. :) 
 
*Adjusted it after viewing a few other lists on here and looking further into other ships.

Giussano and Montecuccoli are my picks for tier 4 and 5 as well, but Trento and Bolzano are a bit of a stretch for tier 8. They're at least nominally treaty cruisers, contemporaries of the likes of Pensacola, Northampton/Portland (Indianapolis), Aoba, York/Exeter, and the County class. Zara, on the other hand...

The identity of the Regia Marina was in many ways built around its cruisers, especially the 8"-gunned heavy cruisers. To reflect this, I think the tech line will probably transition to heavy cruisers starting at tier 6, with Trento, leaving the Ducas to represent the later, more advanced iterations of the 6" Condotierri cruisers. Bolzano at tier 7. For tier 8, Zara is the obvious choice, since (like the Hippers and Mogamis) it flagrantly flouted the treaty requirements, and that tier (with the exception of Myoko and its clones) is where we start to see the post-treaty ships making their appearance. 9 and 10 are going to have to be paper ships, likely some Ansaldo designs. Maybe Pola as a tier 8 premium, since it was built to a slightly different design from the rest of the Zaras.

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i'd like to add a premium to the list: the Capitani Romani class. think baby Condottieri class. 8x135mm guns on a miniturized hull with the same 12km torps. its a light-light cruiser. im thinking tier 5. I would certainly prefer a ship like this to the DD they want to add. Who likes this?

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On 4/4/2019 at 5:26 PM, dawggunner said:

i'd like to add a premium to the list: the Capitani Romani class. think baby Condottieri class. 8x135mm guns on a miniturized hull with the same 12km torps. its a light-light cruiser. im thinking tier 5. I would certainly prefer a ship like this to the DD they want to add. Who likes this?

I don't know if you've seen it, but I did a write-up on it not too long for Scipione Africano as a tier V premium cruiser. if you haven't;

https://forum.worldofwarships.com/topic/177716-scipione-africano-tier-v-italian-light-cruiser/

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On 12/29/2018 at 10:02 AM, Guy_Number_One said:

I really want the Italian cruisers, contrary to most player I LOVE the Abruzzi. However, I doubt Zara will be T9, its a 1920s ship. I think they will put Trento at T7, Zara at T8, one Ansaldo project at T9, and the other at T10.

Whelp looks like WoWs has finally started to work on this.

Looks like I got 4 right of 7 though not sure I agree making the 2 Ducas into 2 different Condottieri class of the same tier I mean the Trento was an entirely different hull then the VI/VII Duca and the VII Zara as well. I mean technically this would make the Duca d'Aosta a IV and the Abruzzi a V. 

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