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PSA: West Virginia '41 is a monster!

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Uptiers well in Tier 8 games.  Crushes Tier 6 opponents like insects!

Includes a free "Delete Cruiser" button.

In Tier 8 games you just have to remember you're not tough enough to tank.  You're a fire support battleship, not a charge leader.  That said, I had one game where a Bismarck thought he could sneak around an island and kill me. At a distance of 9km, I completely obliterated him and made him regret his life choices.   Those 406s are NOT to be underestimated.

Don't believe the anti-hype.  This boat is fantastic when played well.

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Every boat is fantastic when played well.  The vast majority of the player base is going to get wrecked trying to live long enough and maneuver smartly enough to bring those guns to bear.  I suspect most players will make one or two nice volleys and then exit to port after getting smoked.  Ships with only ONE gimmick are dodgy bets for regular players, the skill ceiling isn't how well you can use the guns - it's staying afloat long enough through the game to make them work all match.

The Warspite and her 15" guns that could overmatch at tier 6 were the rage early in WoWs development.  The ship didn't get released after closed beta was over and many players were quite sad.  Then once it was released in open beta, it flooded the server, but once its secrets were revealed ( squishy citadel, takes lots of HE damage ) it quickly faded.  They essentially gave the ship away for free as part of the early British event.  In any case, while you might be racking up great numbers in it, the average player is simply not skilled enough to make that kind of ship work regularly.

 

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From what i seen of this shp on streams, videos and in game seems kinda meh ship.

 

The guns seems both good and bad at the same time. They hit like a truck, which can be a bad thing when top tier since they can overpen a lot.  Another problem is that the guns seems inconsistent, troll disperion.

 

The rest of the ship its pretty meh, very soft, slow speed, poor AA and poor concelament.

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6 minutes ago, Krupp_Sabot said:

LWM review strongly disagrees It sounds like a T6 Roma overpens for days.

That's my point.  LWM's review missed the mark I think.  A lot of the drawbacks become irrelevant with smart play.

She does suck against carriers.  But honestly you don't see them much.   When you do, half the time they don't target you.

I get very few overpens.  Lots of citadels and deleted cruisers.

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5 minutes ago, TheDreadnought said:

That's my point.  LWM's review missed the mark I think.  A lot of the drawbacks become irrelevant with smart play.

She does suck against carriers.  But honestly you don't see them much.   When you do, half the time they don't target you.

I have feeling that will change once word gets out that her AA is worse that the AZ. As far as the guns i have the Mutsu and she has strong guns with garbage shells but even then i still saw alot of over pens and too many TVIIIs.

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10 minutes ago, TheDreadnought said:

She does suck against carriers.  But honestly you don't see them much.   When you do, half the time they don't target you.

She is still new.  Once the CVs learn she has no worthwhile AA to speak of, that will change to her detriment.

 

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Just now, Krupp_Sabot said:

I have feeling that will change once word gets out that her AA is worse that the AZ. As far as the guns i have the Mutsu and she has strong guns with garbage shells but even then i still saw alot of over pens and too many TVIIIs.

I have Mutsu also, and her guns are an order of magnitude less effective than WV's.

But hey, don't like her. . . don't buy her.  I debated even posting this and instead just letting her bad reputation remain, while I hoovered up damage with her.  But I thought I'd be nice instead.  But please, feel free to pass if she's not your thing.  The fewer out there, the better as far as I'm concerned.

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I HAD to suffer the Colorado to get N. CAROLINA. 

Now you want me to buy a worse Colorado just to club T6?

One of the tiers with almost guaranteed CV's?

 

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10 minutes ago, TheDreadnought said:

I have Mutsu also, and her guns are an order of magnitude less effective than WV's.

But hey, don't like her. . . don't buy her.  I debated even posting this and instead just letting her bad reputation remain, while I hoovered up damage with her.  But I thought I'd be nice instead.  But please, feel free to pass if she's not your thing.  The fewer out there, the better as far as I'm concerned.

Sure thing thing If i am in the market for a T6 USN BB I always wanted the AZ anyway since it is where i live now.

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Will definitely check it out!

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6 minutes ago, Markk9 said:

WV-41 burns very well...

Only if they shoot you.

Just was in a tier 7 battle where I did 96k damage and had only about 320k potential damage.  They were practically ignoring me.  The odd thing was that for the longest time in this battle, it felt like I was getting nothing but overpens.  But finally closer to the end of the battle, I got some nice juicy BB targets and started wrecking face.

 

 

Here's my PSA/quickie review.  The WV41 has very powerful guns that are a little trolly with her dispersion but can really do massive damage to any BBs she encounters.  At the same time, those 16" guns can seem like overpen machines when facing poorly armored tier cruisers, so pick your targets wisely.  

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Yeah, no. This ship is awful, but the guns are decent. Big, slow, no armor? It’s easy to outplay, and will only pay dividends against distracted opponents who show too much ankle, or those who don’t understand how overmatch works. The total package comes out to mediocrity, nothing more. 

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  Have you tried it in any PVE modes, OP?   Curious to see how it fares against bots.

  In pve, a bot CV will target you- or not- pretty much at random.   I've had them spend entire matches trolling my AA spec Buffalo or North Carolina- for little to no effect, save awarding me lots and lots of plane kills.  I've also had them totally ignore me in a ship with crap AA...   Cruddy AA isn't quite the liability as it appears on the surface in those modes- it's just luck of the draw whether or not YOU are in the crosshairs that match.

  And while bots are both infamous and REALLY obnoxious for lighting fires- they don't go out of their way to "farm" BB's for EZ damage like cruisers do in pvp.  (no- they like to charge you, and dump undodgeable torps instead, lol)

  So, I'm VERY interested to see how Wee-Vee41 does.

  After all, you simply cannot have too many US BB's, right?   It'll be mine before the end of this weekend- I'm just curious to hear others' experiences in it.  (I tend to get REALLY good RNG luck- or REALLY bad RNG luck on weekends- so a ship that seems to suck harder than a lot lizard could turn out to be a keeper some other day.)

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4 hours ago, TheDreadnought said:

Uptiers well in Tier 8 games.  Crushes Tier 6 opponents like insects!

Includes a free "Delete Cruiser" button.

In Tier 8 games you just have to remember you're not tough enough to tank.  You're a fire support battleship, not a charge leader.  That said, I had one game where a Bismarck thought he could sneak around an island and kill me. At a distance of 9km, I completely obliterated him and made him regret his life choices.   Those 406s are NOT to be underestimated.

Don't believe the anti-hype.  This boat is fantastic when played well.

WeeGee wont make a bad premium BB. The forums would burn down in under an hour.

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22 minutes ago, The_Painted_Target said:

WeeGee wont make a bad premium BB. The forums would burn down in under an hour.

So, Duke of York, pre-AP shell buff Ashitaka, and Mutsu aren't considered bad premiums by the playerbase anymore?

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5 hours ago, landcollector said:

Counter-PSA: WV41's guns are monsters, the rest of her is garbage.

Someone doesn’t know how to dodge and bounce fuso, NC, and Bismarck guns at the same time while in turn deleting them in return. Make sure you got steering gears mod 2 on and simply randomly hold on A and D button while clicking the delete button on ships

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6 hours ago, TheDreadnought said:

Uptiers well in Tier 8 games.  Crushes Tier 6 opponents like insects!

Includes a free "Delete Cruiser" button.

In Tier 8 games you just have to remember you're not tough enough to tank.  You're a fire support battleship, not a charge leader.  That said, I had one game where a Bismarck thought he could sneak around an island and kill me. At a distance of 9km, I completely obliterated him and made him regret his life choices.   Those 406s are NOT to be underestimated.

Don't believe the anti-hype.  This boat is fantastic when played well.

Tier 6 BB

20 knot full speed

Bad deck armor(3 inches)

I'm assuming that Wee Vee hasn't run into a Massachusetts yet, has it? 

She isn't going to be able to run anywhere.

For those complaining about a lack of the 1944 refit, imagine a 20 knot BB with the same armor as originally built, but up against Yamatos, Republiques and Montanas/Iowas. It will be slaughtered.

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33 minutes ago, embeddeddear97 said:

Someone doesn’t know how to dodge and bounce fuso, NC, and Bismarck guns at the same time while in turn deleting them in return. Make sure you got steering gears mod 2 on and simply randomly hold on A and D button while clicking the delete button on ships

Her deck armor is a liability, especially against later tier BB's. 3 inch armor isn't going to help much vs. plunging fire.

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2 hours ago, Fletcher7_1944 said:

  Have you tried it in any PVE modes, OP?   Curious to see how it fares against bots.

  In pve, a bot CV will target you- or not- pretty much at random.   I've had them spend entire matches trolling my AA spec Buffalo or North Carolina- for little to no effect, save awarding me lots and lots of plane kills.  I've also had them totally ignore me in a ship with crap AA...   Cruddy AA isn't quite the liability as it appears on the surface in those modes- it's just luck of the draw whether or not YOU are in the crosshairs that match.

  And while bots are both infamous and REALLY obnoxious for lighting fires- they don't go out of their way to "farm" BB's for EZ damage like cruisers do in pvp.  (no- they like to charge you, and dump undodgeable torps instead, lol)

  So, I'm VERY interested to see how Wee-Vee41 does.

  After all, you simply cannot have too many US BB's, right?   It'll be mine before the end of this weekend- I'm just curious to hear others' experiences in it.  (I tend to get REALLY good RNG luck- or REALLY bad RNG luck on weekends- so a ship that seems to suck harder than a lot lizard could turn out to be a keeper some other day.)

Mouse gave it a favorable review for Coop. However it will have the same USN standard issue of being left behind in a faster paced battle.

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1 hour ago, MacArthursPipe said:

Tier 6 BB

20 knot full speed

Bad deck armor(3 inches)

I'm assuming that Wee Vee hasn't run into a Massachusetts yet, has it? 

She isn't going to be able to run anywhere.

For those complaining about a lack of the 1944 refit, imagine a 20 knot BB with the same armor as originally built, but up against Yamatos, Republiques and Montanas/Iowas. It will be slaughtered.

I have, and I butchered it from well outside 11.3km.

As a Massachusetts Main I know both sides of that battle really well.

Of course, this was a Massachusetts B... so probably some clueless noob who didn’t know how to play her, as opposed to a specialist like myself.  

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But bottom line, if you’re having to compare her to the best battleship of a Tier 2 tiers higher, it’s hard to make the argument that she sucks.  Just sayin...

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Good ship, it is much better than average when fighting higher tiers.

 

1 hour ago, MacArthursPipe said:

Her deck armor is a liability, especially against later tier BB's. 3 inch armor isn't going to help much vs. plunging fire.

 

Do you honestly believe that any T6 BB is sufficiently armed or armored to fight T8 BBs at long range? The only defense you have is angling so you eat full pens instead of citadels.

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