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I realized that barracuda seems to be the "average" submarine so to speak, and that the Zipper has only freezing torpedoes while the Gerfalcon has more torpedo tubes, but unfortunately I fail to see what other distinguishing features each one has (including torpedo tube forward/rear orientation), not to mention I'm completely in the dark about Sea Lowe and Killer whale.

So I guess my questions are:

  • What makes each submarine different from each other?
  • What role does each one play in the op? I heard one submarine in particular—Zipper, was it?—was good for spotting the Black Lair, but that's about all I'm aware of.
  • What captain skills should each one have?

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It's old, but still some explanations of each sub's pros and cons

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Certain ones have secondary artillary, some only have torps, some are faster.

Capt skills...you can invest in secondary skills if you have a cannon, but torpedoe skills should be a priority. Survivability should be a priority. Concealment has little use in my opinion, you should be submerged by the time you are spotted.

Rpf is not useful, and vigilance is questionable, so far the bots dont fire many torps.

Using all that info there should be very few choices for 19pts. Obviously some leeway for playstyle.

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I specced my Barracuda captain for secondaries.  I see no reason to play the others as they give up secondaries for better torpedoes.  I suspect im alone on this one.

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I dont believe flamu gave details about capts... but with port viewer, his vid, and my comments that should be enough to do it the first ones.

Personally not impressed with seelowe, i keep returning to gerfalcon. and i havent played with killer whale yet.

 

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1 hour ago, Avenge_December_7 said:

I realized that barracuda seems to be the "average" submarine so to speak, and that the Zipper has only freezing torpedoes while the Gerfalcon has more torpedo tubes, but unfortunately I fail to see what other distinguishing features each one has (including torpedo tube forward/rear orientation), not to mention I'm completely in the dark about Sea Lowe and Killer whale.

So I guess my questions are:

  • What makes each submarine different from each other?
  • What role does each one play in the op? I heard one submarine in particular—Zipper, was it?—was good for spotting the Black Lair, but that's about all I'm aware of.
  • What captain skills should each one have?

There are differences in speed, Torpedo tubs positions and quantities, HP totals for the subs, times they can stay submerged and time it takes to recharge Oxygen bar on surface. Also some of the subs have secondary deck guns.

Captain skills are the same for all the subs. Preventive Maintinence, Adrenaline Rush, Last Stand, Torpedo Armaments Expert. No if a sub has deck guns add in Advanced Fire Training and Basic Fire Training and they might set some fires if you are surfaced.

You want to travel on the surface in your sub to keep oxygen meter charged and only submerge when you get spotted. Doing this means you usually have enough air to last you for your fights or at least most of the time you are fighting.

Tap C key once and you will go to periscope depth, tap C key second time and it will take you to next level which is below periscope depth and allows you to safely pass underneath enemy ships with out ramming them which would kill you. But unless you are needing to go under a ship you will only need to submerge to periscope depth. Now it’s important to remember to surface to recharge your air supply as soon as you are out of danger since otherwise it might trigger the “Emergency Blow” feature which is an auto surface system fir the sub when oxygen runs out, and it could happen at bad moment if you do not manage things well.

Now when you get to Rasputin which is the ship that says “ ATTACK “ above it, do not have your entire team immediately attack it since not only does it result in lower XP scores, but also only 4 stars since you need to sot the Black Castle first before killing Rasputin. And personally I prefer getting castle spotted and killing as many of Rasputin escort ships as possible before killing Rasputin since escort ships will keep spawning and usually you have 6-8 extra minutes anyway.

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12 minutes ago, c3shooter said:

I dont believe flamu gave details about capts... but with port viewer, his vid, and my comments that should be enough to do it the first ones.

Personally not impressed with seelowe, i keep returning to gerfalcon. and i havent played with killer whale yet.

 

Killer Whale is a lot of fun, 10 Torpedo tubes, 1 deck guns, reasonable submerged time limits, recharges air on surface at nice fairly brisk pace, and decent speed. You get 4 regular Torps + 2 freeze Torps in the bow tubes, and 2 regular Torps and 2 Freeze Torps in the Stern tubes. Currently my record in it is 10 kills and 400k Damage. And 6-8 kills are what I get on average along with 200-300k Damage.

Having stern Torpedo tubes is nice because you don’t always have to turn your sub around just to fire since you can simply shoot behind you. Gerfacon is fun as well I agree once you learn how to use all it’s unique characteristics to your advantage.

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1 hour ago, Avenge_December_7 said:

I realized that barracuda seems to be the "average" submarine so to speak, and that the Zipper has only freezing torpedoes while the Gerfalcon has more torpedo tubes, but unfortunately I fail to see what other distinguishing features each one has (including torpedo tube forward/rear orientation), not to mention I'm completely in the dark about Sea Lowe and Killer whale.

So I guess my questions are:

  • What makes each submarine different from each other?
  • What role does each one play in the op? I heard one submarine in particular—Zipper, was it?—was good for spotting the Black Lair, but that's about all I'm aware of.
  • What captain skills should each one have?

Zipper has the lowest detect, and can abuse the air requirements.

Gerfalcon has two thirds of its armament mounted on its butt, making it either largely useless in a game where time is an issue, or a drive by torp spammer, your choice.

Seelowe has lots of torps, faster, harder hitting torps, it is used as a shotgun once Putin and friends all spawn in the middle.

Barracuda has the worst detection and is played for laughs as you gun down ships rather than torp them.

Killer whale is fast, good torps, , stern tubes if you remember to use them.

Captain skills :I take PM, LS, TAE, FP, then SE, BOS, then flip a coin for the last three points. Not that it really matters, the operation is pretty simple, regardless of skill selection.

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7 minutes ago, Doombeagle said:

Putin

Cant believe, i never noticed that...

Now the question is...Is it coincidence?

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1 hour ago, c3shooter said:

Cant believe, i never noticed that...

Now the question is...Is it coincidence?

Rasputin is an actual historical figure. 

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1 hour ago, Avenge_December_7 said:

I realized that barracuda seems to be the "average" submarine so to speak, and that the Zipper has only freezing torpedoes while the Gerfalcon has more torpedo tubes, but unfortunately I fail to see what other distinguishing features each one has (including torpedo tube forward/rear orientation), not to mention I'm completely in the dark about Sea Lowe and Killer whale.

So I guess my questions are:

  • What makes each submarine different from each other?
  • What role does each one play in the op? I heard one submarine in particular—Zipper, was it?—was good for spotting the Black Lair, but that's about all I'm aware of.
  • What captain skills should each one have?

Zipper Sub is the fastest at diving and surfacing than all other submarines.
Gerfalcon is the fastest submarine, at 31 knots.
Seelowe has very potent torpedoes, because all of it is forward facing
Barracuda has the best Secondaries.

Killer Whale is basically a combination of the 4.

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On 11/3/2018 at 4:01 PM, Hatework said:

Rasputin is an actual historical figure. 

That I knew, and from what I remember he was more of a southsayr type. But none-the-less I can't really explain the other part of my comment without going into psychology and politics, and the last time I did that, the thread was closed and I got a vacation, so...

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