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As someone who doesn’t have much background with naval warfare, I don’t know much about WW2 submarines. Assuming that submarines will eventually make it into World of Warships proper, how robust of a tech tree branch could the US, Japan, and Germany make? And did any other nation present in WoWs have enough of a submarine force to justify/support a branch of their own?

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This really needs to stop...

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Plenty enough to go make Submarine Tech Trees, from WWI thru the end of WWII.

US Navy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_submarine_classes_of_the_United_States_Navy

The Germans of course have a big selection to build off of:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-boat

The Royal Navy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_submarine_classes_of_the_Royal_Navy

IJN:  It looks like the Japanese climbed aboard Submarines late, first ones in the 1920s, but they have gone heavy with them ever since then until the end of WWII.

http://www.combinedfleet.com/ss.htm

The Russians also seem to have enough:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Soviet_and_Russian_submarine_classes

 

France is an interesting case.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_submarines_of_France

You can clearly see the French have a long history with submarines.  The catch for a French Submarine Tech Tree is that new, indegenous designs stop with the Fall of France.  They had new classes going into 1940 but then it stops.  So a French Sub Tech Tree Line would go only so far.

 

I haven't looked at any others yet.

 

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All I know is that is Balao class should have a pink perma-camo. 

40dvhkb5wv7z.jpg

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2 minutes ago, Kizarvexis said:

All I know is that is Balao class should have a pink perma-camo. 

40dvhkb5wv7z.jpg

Do the British get a Yellow Submarine?

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1 minute ago, HazeGrayUnderway said:

Do the British get a Yellow Submarine?

Sure, why not. :)

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8 minutes ago, Kizarvexis said:

All I know is that is Balao class should have a pink perma-camo. 

40dvhkb5wv7z.jpg

Operation petticoat for the win.

 

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Crap ton of sub designs. US, Japan and Germany easily have full tech tree. UK and France have enough designs if not actual production. For all of them WG will likely have to fudge tier 10.

Really looking forward to this. Having so much fun in the event. Just a hint of what main lines would be like. Can't wait.

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My guess is they'd start at tier 5. and would come off from the DD branches.:fish_book: this does pose a new question however! will we have a ASW DD line or ASW premiums  to counter subs if they are introduced! 

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Howdy Captains,

Here are some examples of Subs that could be added:

 

FRCHSUB.jpg

GERMSUB.jpg

USNSUB.jpg

PANSUB.jpg

IJNSUB.jpg

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On 11/2/2018 at 5:53 PM, paradat said:

Crap ton of sub designs. US, Japan and Germany easily have full tech tree. UK and France have enough designs if not actual production. For all of them WG will likely have to fudge tier 10.

Really looking forward to this. Having so much fun in the event. Just a hint of what main lines would be like. Can't wait.

Maybe not though considering subs from WWI to WWII are up for consideration and even ones built just after WWII as well.

USN, IJN, KM, RN, Italy, Spain, France, as well as some tier nations all had subs well represented in their navies. Wargaming will have plenty to choose from to add into tech trees and some for premiums. Like Dutch subs will likely only be premiums.

And I share your excitement as well, loving the subs in the event. Going to take a tour of another USN Balao Class Sub in the near future which will be nice after playing the Killer Whale in game which is either a Gato or Balao Class Sub. ( they were really similar with Balao being able to dive deeper with reinforcements steel hull.)

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On ‎11‎/‎2‎/‎2018 at 6:43 PM, Admiral_Thrawn_1 said:

Maybe not though considering subs from WWII to WWII are up for consideration and even ones built just after WWII as well.

USN, IJN, KM, RN, Italy, Spain, France, as well as some tier nations all had subs well represented in their navies. Wargaming will have plenty to choose from to add into tech trees and some for premiums. Like Dutch subs will likely only be premiums.

And I share your excitement as well, loving the subs in the event. Going to take a tour of another USN Balao Class Sub in the near future which will be nice after playing the Killer Whale in game which is either a Gato or Balao Class Sub. ( they were really similar with Balao being able to dive deeper with reinforcements steel hull.)

Yeah agreed. Finally unlocked Killer whale great fun.

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On 11/2/2018 at 6:58 PM, BladedPheonix said:

My guess is they'd start at tier 5. and would come off from the DD branches.:fish_book: this does pose a new question however! will we have a ASW DD line or ASW premiums  to counter subs if they are introduced! 

Sign me up for a Rudderow-class DE, a Jap Kaikoban, and a Flower-class corvette.

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On 11/2/2018 at 6:47 PM, Cirran said:

Operation petticoat for the win.

 

Cirran

But but, they sank a truck.  Does that mean we get torps that will traverse over islands?

For those who don't know, in Operation Petticoat they missed their target but "sank" a truck near shore. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpEcU0OEzhc

:cap_old:

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On ‎11‎/‎2‎/‎2018 at 3:58 PM, BladedPheonix said:

My guess is they'd start at tier 5. and would come off from the DD branches.:fish_book: this does pose a new question however! will we have a ASW DD line or ASW premiums  to counter subs if they are introduced! 

Nah plenty of early subs pre WW1. Easy to start at tier3 if they want to.

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On 11/2/2018 at 5:39 PM, HazeGrayUnderway said:

Do the British get a Yellow Submarine?

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Does WG have the Sea of Green map?

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35 minutes ago, Siegewolf said:

But but, they sank a truck.  Does that mean we get torps that will traverse over islands?

For those who don't know, in Operation Petticoat they missed their target but "sank" a truck near shore. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpEcU0OEzhc

:cap_old:

It was based on a real event where the docked cargo ship was missed and the torp hit the dock. The explosion flipped a bus into the water. It happened to USS Bowfin (SS-287) on her sixth patrol.

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On 11/2/2018 at 5:10 PM, Elder_Lee said:

Howdy Captains,

Here are some examples of Subs that could be added:

 

FRCHSUB.jpg

GERMSUB.jpg

USNSUB.jpg

PANSUB.jpg

IJNSUB.jpg

Sourcouf and the I-400 would be interesting as they are considered 'Carrier Class' subs which contain 2-3 pontoon airplanes which could be used for...spotting and attack I guess....will they be functional ??  Hope so! 

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1 minute ago, dionkraft said:

Sourcouf and the I-400 would be interesting as they are considered 'Carrier Class' subs which contain 2-3 pontoon airplanes which could be used for...spotting and attack I guess....will they be functional ??  Hope so! 

Could easily see that a consumable fighter and or scout plane.

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Just now, paradat said:

Could easily see that a consumable fighter and or scout plane.

The only additional thought is if the Planes are functional...and when their flight time limit runs out AND the SUB is underwater or periscope depth...the SUBS gonna have to SURFACE LOL to retrieve them !!   MAMAMIA!

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On 11/2/2018 at 4:58 PM, BladedPheonix said:

My guess is they'd start at tier 5. and would come off from the DD branches.:fish_book: this does pose a new question however! will we have a ASW DD line or ASW premiums  to counter subs if they are introduced! 

 

29 minutes ago, paradat said:

Nah plenty of early subs pre WW1. Easy to start at tier3 if they want to.

I agree with BladedPheonix that subs should start at tier 5, you see, Cruisers are introduced at T1, DDs at T2, BBs at T3, CVs at T4,... subs should start at T5 simply for "educational" purposes only, so a new player does not get overburdened with even more stuff.

But certainly some earlier premiums should be possible (i.e. the Mikasa at T2).

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2 minutes ago, CO_Valle said:

 

I agree with BladedPheonix that subs should start at tier 5, you see, Cruisers are introduced at T1, DDs at T2, BBs at T3, CVs at T4,... subs should start at T5 simply for "educational" purposes only, so a new player does not get overburdened with even more stuff.

But certainly some earlier premiums should be possible (i.e. the Mikasa at T2).

I always give new players more credit. This game is not difficult as is. 

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