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Is The Gaede Worth The Grind?

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I've been obsessed with my V-170 ever since they came out, and I have never purchased the T-22. Is the Gaede (and later tier Germans) worth the Tugboat-22 grind? 

 

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I really enjoyed Ernst Gaede and Leberecht Maass. And have had fun with Z-23 and Z-46. I think it is worth it, but I am a DD main. But for the sake of full disclosure, the T-22 was probably my most painful grind. Whatever is good about the ship, I never was able to find it and sold the ship as soon as I had the ability to get the Ernst Gaede.

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3 minutes ago, silverdahc said:

If you like dd play then yes

Well what kind of DD play? I enjoy gunboats mostly. 

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2 minutes ago, Snipereagle23 said:

Well what kind of DD play? I enjoy gunboats mostly. 

Well each dd line is situational but yes they are gun boats and when they get hydro they really become fun

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1 minute ago, silverdahc said:

Well each dd line is situational but yes they are gun boats and when they get hydro they really become fun

Hmm. Alright, I might take the plunge. Thanks. ;) 

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In my experience, Gaede and Maass are best for the bad puns.

Getting hydroed by a Gaede? He picked you up on his Gaedar.

Maass is short for "Ma(fat)a__", "Maassive" or "Massively Asinine"

 

They are pretty awful for anything else EXCEPT, after the BB AP vs DD nerf goes through, perhaps rushing BBs, because you won't be eating any full pens or double-dips anymore.

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I don't see the need to play the German loli boats. I have T10s in all the DD lines except the British. Yes I have seen a few well played Z-52 but frankly the rest of the line just seems uninteresting and bland. 

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17 hours ago, RedSeaBear said:

I don't see the need to play the German loli boats. I have T10s in all the DD lines except the British. Yes I have seen a few well played Z-52 but frankly the rest of the line just seems uninteresting and bland. 

Wait a Minute I know you. You were the one on Notser's channel. In the Fletcher. You really helped me improve my DD gameplay last year. Thanks. 

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7 minutes ago, Snipereagle23 said:

Wait a Minute I know you. You were the one on Notser's channel. In the Fletcher. You really helped me improve my DD gameplay last year. Thanks. 

Glad I could help, 

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The Gaede and the Maass are mediocre boats, concealment hurts them and the slow gun rotation makes then awkward; things pick up with the Z23, which is decent enough but the Z46 is very good and so is the Z52, by this time the AP is rather potent and your get 10 and 10.5 km torps, and take TAE and you have good quick reloads of your torps, both get very good hydro (esp.Z52).  I hated the T22, Gaede was better, Maass was kind of bland.  The premiums, T61 is quite a decent boat for it's tier and the Z39 (T7) is really a T8 boat and is quite decent.  Overall, the low tires 1-4 is good, and the T8-10 is good.  The rest are Meh.

 

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I hope the Gaede is worth the grind; I just got it last night.  First time out I had favorable matchingmaching and scored 40k damage without upgrades (oops), camo, or flags, and with a captain 'in training'.  We'll see what happens with my beginner's luck tonight.

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The Erny is a fun ship that contains more features that are conducive to high tier gameplay. You have torpedos that are competent and long range, you have guns that are capable of competing with dangerous American knife fighters, witch also can penetrate well. The hydro is super nice with a ship detect of about 5km and when combined with vigilance and the hydro upgrade bought with coal you have a vision control monster when dealing with caps. Honestly my favorite ship out of every tier 6 right now.

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I sold the Gaede because I felt it's been pretty power crept, and having to depend mostly on AP in this day and age is not a great thing. It wasn't terrible per se, but it wasn't great either. I'll revisit the German DD's eventually, but I feel the Russian/IJN/RN boats are more my style and fit the current meta accordingly.

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Personally, I thing the Maass and Z-23 are the most fun of the line.

The Maass is the first real cap bully ship around, and eats for lunch any T5 or T6 DD in a cap with little to no effort.  The slower turret rotation means it does have problems against the T7+ US and PA DDs, so you do have to tone it down a bit.  And yeah, the detection range is pretty bad.

That said, I really liked the Maass. You can play it as a torp boat on many of the maps and score torp hits comfortably. It does surprisingly well with AP on light cruisers on many of the maps if you learn to gunboat in it.  You just avoid cap brawls against T8+ DDs.

 

As to the Z-23, well, the 150mm guns are just awesome. Decent rotation on the turrets and massive HE and AP damage are just a joy to work with. And the 10km torps are pretty much the best in the game when it comes to reliably hitting targets.  I regularly take down enemy light cruisers with my Z-23, as they forget that I can easily citadel them with the 150mm AP, and thus reliably do 8k+ per salvo.  You'd be surprised at the number of US and RN cruiser drivers who think that even when they're on low health, they can beat me anytime.  Seldom works out well for them - I think my record is against a Cleveland driver who thought he could ignore me while trying to kill a Bismark instead - down 20k health in under 10 seconds, he changed his tune, but not fast enough to get nuked, 9 citadels and 33k damage in less than 25 seconds.   That's right, I managed to murder an almost FULL HEALTH Cleveland in a gunfight because he ignored me for a dozen seconds.  That's the kind of thing you can do in a Z-23, and you can't in pretty much any other DD.

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