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Yes another Worcester thread, needs fixing please adjust it some. Its not as squishy as made out to be. In crease it rudder shift or something,

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6 minutes ago, vikingno2 said:

Yes another Worcester thread, needs fixing please adjust it some. Its not as squishy as made out to be. In crease it rudder shift or something,

Fix the pen on 100mm ijn lazer cannons first.

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20 minutes ago, vikingno2 said:

Yes another Worcester thread, needs fixing please adjust it some. Its not as squishy as made out to be. In crease it rudder shift or something,

Can you provide some more info please? Situations perhaps?

Personally I've seen the Worcester get annhilated from both perspectives, even from a Tier 9 it can almost be one shot (the most I've hit one for was 3 cits in my MO). 

In turn I've had it done to me...

 

So I'm kinda at a loss here as to why you think it's not as squishy or squishy at all.

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16 minutes ago, BURN_Miner said:

So I'm kinda at a loss here as to why you think it's not as squishy or squishy at all.

Simple. He got burned to the waterline by one that was properly angled and took his return fire in the belt.

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15 hits with AP from a Conq around 12-8 km did about 8 k of damage

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6 minutes ago, vikingno2 said:

15 hits with AP from a Conq around 12-8 km did about 8 k of damage

Replay or screenshots?

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1 minute ago, JCC45 said:

Replay or screenshots?

Not really needed. 8k damage from 15 AP hits seems cromulent enough. Just a bit of bad luck with angles / shells hitting the belt.

Apparently he wants Wooster to auto-explode the moment he shoots at it, even though it behaves like every other cruiser if your shells have a bit of unfortunate RNG.

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No I don't want it the explode, and no need for you condescending tone. Its need some adjusting they are in every game now for a reason. The Stalingrad does not have allot of games yet, so I will discount it for the time being. Best win rate for cruisers, great damage always, its concealment is less than its radar. It's destroyer like ability to maneuver it the biggest issue to me.  No I don't have replay or screen shots. Just playing against them all the time.

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Stats are probably still a bit inflated due to the release not being too far in the past.

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After playing this game for over 3 years I'd like to say such thread rarely initiate any actions within WoWS/WG. Remember they have a kajillion tons of data they can peruse. Things need to be way out of balance before they even consider doing anything. 

Also, generally speaking, those who just got a paddlin by one or more Worcesters are usually the ones asking for a nerf. Or they've witnessed it occurring. Why, even I asked for some nerfs on the ship. 

But then I completed the grind and bought her. 

Life's completely different as an owner/operator. Let her be. There will be other ships. 

56 minutes ago, vikingno2 said:

15 hits with AP from a Conq around 12-8 km did about 8 k of damage

Perhaps the problem is with the Conq as almost everyone knows HE is her primary ammo, yes? 

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59 minutes ago, vikingno2 said:

15 hits with AP from a Conq around 12-8 km did about 8 k of damage

You want them to make Worcester squishier because you could not one shot it? This has to be the silliest post I have ever seen.

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18 minutes ago, RipNuN2 said:

Stats are probably still a bit inflated due to the release not being too far in the past.

Untrue.

I have it. Therefore:

No stats can survive ME, the Great Stats Deflatorator!!!!!!

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8 minutes ago, Vaffu said:

You want them to make Worcester squishier because you could not one shot it? This has to be the silliest post I have ever seen.

Why silly, Conq has great AP even angled the Worcester should taken more damage. Its great that I get comment like "he probably  want to one shot kill".  How about not try and guess what I want and just read. I was commenting that there need to be some adjustment. Maybe less concealment , maybe make it move more like a Cruiser less like a DD.  The silliness here is there are over 200k worth of battle fought in a Worcester and stats do back up what I am saying.

 

To others your right nothing will probably get done but its the only recourse available to me. After all the Khab did get adjusted after enough feed back.  

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2 minutes ago, vikingno2 said:

Why silly, Conq has great AP even angled the Worcester should taken more damage. Its great that I get comment like "he probably  want to one shot kill".  How about not try and guess what I want and just read. I was commenting that there need to be some adjustment. Maybe less concealment , maybe make it move more like a Cruiser less like a DD.  The silliness here is there are over 200k worth of battle fought in a Worcester and stats do back up what I am saying.

 

To others your right nothing will probably get done but its the only recourse available to me. After all the Khab did get adjusted after enough feed back.  

I did read and that is what you are asking for just in different words.  The RNG did not smile upon you. I have np landing citadels on  them with a DM even at 16 km plus so it is your aim or just the RNG.

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While we're at it, let's nerf the Yamato and Musashi guns.  A single hit from 26km+ really hurts.  Everything.

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17 minutes ago, Vaffu said:

I did read and that is what you are asking for just in different words.  The RNG did not smile upon you. I have np landing citadels on  them with a DM even at 16 km plus so it is your aim or just the RNG.

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Then you cant read, you said "This has to be the silliest post I have ever seen." Not that maybe it was just bad RNG.   It is not what I asked for your just wrong. I recommended increasing the rudder shift some. You somehow re-imagine that into I want a One Shot Kill. That just [edited]. I also said its not a squishy and lead to believe; if a Mino would have been in the same position it would have been wrecked. I use the Mino because others have used that as a reference point, in terms of armor weakness.  I want to make that clear incase you want to somehow re-explain what I am basically saying.

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If you were using AP to a bow on Wooster, shoot at the guns to break them...  Woosters whose guns get knocked out are often less effective...  And as was said, if you are in a Conq, bow on you should have been shooting HE anyway.  You can do more HE damage in 2 salvos to a bow on Wooster.  His DC is only 15 seconds, by the time you reload he should be ready to set on fire again.

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1 minute ago, GrimmeReaper said:

If you were using AP to a bow on Wooster, shoot at the guns to break them...  Woosters whose guns get knocked out are often less effective...  And as was said, if you are in a Conq, bow on you should have been shooting HE anyway.  You can do more HE damage in 2 salvos to a bow on Wooster.  His DC is only 15 seconds, by the time you reload he should be ready to set on fire again.

No, no, NO!  It needs to be 1-shotted!

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1 minute ago, GrimmeReaper said:

If you were using AP to a bow on Wooster, shoot at the guns to break them...  Woosters whose guns get knocked out are often less effective...  And as was said, if you are in a Conq, bow on you should have been shooting HE anyway.  You can do more HE damage in 2 salvos to a bow on Wooster.  His DC is only 15 seconds, by the time you reload he should be ready to set on fire again.

Thank you, I'll stick with HE on them form now on.

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Honestly if I was my opponent I would be on here talking about DesMoines not Worcester.

Worcester might be the new cool thing everyone wants to pick on...... but to me Des is still the King of the sea.

 

 

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1 hour ago, vikingno2 said:

No I don't want it the explode, and no need for you condescending tone. Its need some adjusting they are in every game now for a reason. The Stalingrad does not have allot of games yet, so I will discount it for the time being. Best win rate for cruisers, great damage always, its concealment is less than its radar. It's destroyer like ability to maneuver it the biggest issue to me.  No I don't have replay or screen shots. Just playing against them all the time.

Adjusting? Like what?

Worcester has:

1) no torpedoes

2) no turtle back

3) 25mm plating

4) crap health at 45,400

 

When the day dawns when wg removes turtleback and stealth torping entirely, then we can complain about someone not even having the fastest guns at t10.

 

Especially while driving the most unbalanced OP ship in the game: CONQUEROR!!!!

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41 minutes ago, Crokodone said:

Adjusting? Like what?

Worcester has:

1) no torpedoes

2) no turtle back

3) 25mm plating

4) crap health at 45,400

 

When the day dawns when wg removes turtleback and stealth torping entirely, then we can complain about someone not even having the fastest guns at t10.

 

Especially while driving the most unbalanced OP ship in the game: CONQUEROR!!!!

Read the post, for the 3rd time recommend increasing the rudder shift

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1 minute ago, vikingno2 said:

Read the post, for the 3rd time recommend increasing the rudder shift

The ship is sluggish as it already is. Conqueror and Harugumo should be on the nerf block, not some ship that performs well only within a specific niche.

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