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Why Was the Konig Albert Removed?

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Yeah, I never played it frequently when I first got it, and only once or twice in the last year, but having essentially a tier 4 ship placed at tier 3 ( protected tier ) is going to cause head aches for new players.

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I bought it to be a 'fun' ship, but 1) there are no missions at T3. 2) If I want to grind/train captains, I'd use the Tirpitz. 3) I'm not a stat padder.. In fact, I can't remember my last Random game. I'd rather club bots.

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Nice game.  Much carry.

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It is balanced by how often you get pulled up to tier 4 and have to fight double carriers with it's non existent AA.

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I thought about getting it back when it was on sale for half price.  I didn't because I probably would never have played it, even though it was a great ship.  It's hard on the seal pups though.

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I never thought much of the ship.  I consider Broken Ships to uptier very well, like how in the old +/-2 unprotected MM, Imperator Nikolai I in Tier IV was crushing easily Tier VI Battleships.  KA cannot handle Tier IV BBs.  Also, DDs and CVs counter KA hard, with little effort.  The strength of KA is in her armor and secondaries.  Her guns are terribly inaccurate.  She needs people dumb enough to get close to her.  The DDs don't need to do that and the Tier IV CVs laugh at KA's "AA" if you can call it that.

 

I was actually surprised getting word that WG pulled her a long time ago.  She wasn't broken like Gremyaschy, Caesar, Belfast, etc. were.  She relies on player stupidity to let her do well.

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26 minutes ago, Murcc said:

I thought about getting it back when it was on sale for half price.  I didn't because I probably would never have played it, even though it was a great ship.  It's hard on the seal pups though.

Me too, if I want to club low tiers I'll use a real mans ship, the clemson, or the kami.

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It was being used by seal clubbers and creating such whining, that WG caved and removed it.

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32 minutes ago, HazeGrayUnderway said:

Imperator Nikolai I in Tier IV was crushing easily Tier VI Battleships.

Those were the days.  I fondly recall doing this, or taking on T6 DDs in it.  Once they made the MM changed I rarely take it out anymore (it needs a new captain, the last one I messed up on).

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5 minutes ago, Wowzery said:

Those were the days.  I fondly recall doing this, or taking on T6 DDs in it.  Once they made the MM changed I rarely take it out anymore (it needs a new captain, the last one I messed up on).

I took a break from the game in November 2015 - April 2016.  When I returned I was playing Tier VI New Mexico.  I encountered Tier IV Imp.Niolai.

"LOL Tier IV BB against VI New Mexico?  This is easy!"

Then I noticed the SUPER ACCURATE Imp.Nik. guns.

Against angled BB threats, I could throw AP at base superstructure, but you can't do that really against Imp.Nik. because there's not much you can shoot at on the decks.

He wasn't played stupidly giving me broadsides to shoot at.  I couldn't maneuver to get good angles to shoot at it, I resorted to HE, but Imp.Nik. just kept firing at Big Fat NM with her Big Fat Wide Hull and Big Fat Tall, Massive Superstructures for Big AP Penetrations.

 

Tier VI BB like New Mexico against Wyoming, Myogi, any other Tier IV BB, that's an easy win.  But not against Imp.Nikolai.

Konig Albert doesn't do that.

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I don't play her much as I rarely play low tiers since all daily missions require tier 5 and up. But when I do play her, I feel dirty inside. She's exceptionally strong at tier 3.

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1 hour ago, Dunnik said:

Oh...I see.

 

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Nothing you can‘t do in a Bellerophon or so. It’s T3 - Players are bad and it’s easy to pull off a “great” victory.

The absolute differences between T3 BBs are negligible. All this “KA is sooo OP” blabla that some ppl keep parroting from time to time only shows their lack of understanding.

 

(if you want a really stupidly OP ship try Kamikaze, Belfast or Gulio Cesare),

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Konig Albert is elegant and funny.

Stong vs tier III opponents  and very effective in tier IV MMs.

 

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11 minutes ago, HazeGrayUnderway said:

I took a break from the game in November 2015 - April 2016.  When I returned I was playing Tier VI New Mexico.  I encountered Tier IV Imp.Niolai.

"LOL Tier IV BB against VI New Mexico?  This is easy!"

Then I noticed the SUPER ACCURATE Imp.Nik. guns.

Against angled BB threats, I could throw AP at base superstructure, but you can't do that really against Imp.Nik. because there's not much you can shoot at on the decks.

He wasn't played stupidly giving me broadsides to shoot at.  I couldn't maneuver to get good angles to shoot at it, I resorted to HE, but Imp.Nik. just kept firing at Big Fat NM with her Big Fat Wide Hull and Big Fat Tall, Massive Superstructures for Big AP Penetrations.

 

Tier VI BB like New Mexico against Wyoming, Myogi, any other Tier IV BB, that's an easy win.  But not against Imp.Nikolai.

Konig Albert doesn't do that.

My record for ships killed was the Nikki. 7! It was me an a CA against four T4  CA's . CA ran like a little girl and I ended up facing the CA's alone. Already had 3 kills at that point. Blapped each 1 in turn. Heh Good times!

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Nikolai is better at tier than konig. Konig is soooo slow. It’s totally lethal at 8km or less and nearly immune to everything but torpedos. However, the match is already almost over by time you get that close.

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You mean the KA that was removed and then released again for sale? 

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I mean, you have 100k damage and a pair of kills ... Okay.  And that dreadnaught is cool, I get those in my Orion all the time.  Same for the high caliber.  Those stats aren't particularly OP, it's just a good game.  Color me unimpressed.

I've seen Konig Alberts get wiped out in the first 10 minutes of battles.  As with most ships, it's not the ship, it's the driver.

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Nikolai: "The Nikolai is the most overpowered BB in this T3-4 match."

K. Albert: "Hold my beer."

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The stated reason was that it's proving too strong in the hands of experienced players. I must say I felt a little guilty. :cap_cool:

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As noted above, it actually doesn't uptier that well. It's not so much the planes -- it's fairly good at dodging torps. It's more stuff like the Orion which you're pretty much inept against.

Edit: it's really just always a problem when you have a low-tier premium where it's attractive to bring that 19-point Jesus and have some fun. We put in our Bismarck/Currywurst guys and went to town. I cringe to imagine people putting their Worcester captain in that upcoming "Premium St. Louis" Charleston. You can't balance against d***heads like us -- without nerfing the ship to ground.

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I haven't figured out an optimal build for the ship, but I still love my Konig Albert to death.

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33 minutes ago, Dunnik said:

Nikolai: "The Nikolai is the most overpowered BB in this T3-4 match."

K. Albert: "Hold my beer."

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One match doesn't change that Nikolai is the better OP ship in that Tier Bracket.

2 minutes ago, _Marines said:

I haven't figured out an optimal build for the ship, but I still love my Konig Albert to death.

The one thing I like about Konig Albert is she looks nice.

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I find it funny that It was for sale a little while back and yet few people noticed, but I did and scooped her up.

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4 hours ago, _Marines said:

I haven't figured out an optimal build for the ship, but I still love my Konig Albert to death.

Use a secondary build it suits German BBs perfectly.

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