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Atago or Kidd???

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I completely regretted not getting the Atago during the summer sale and here we are again.

 

But the Kidd looks amazing because A) my grandpa served on the USS Bryant (Fletcher class) and B) it's a great ship and can be used competitively. Both are on sale and I would love help deciding. I like to play both classes and understand the T8 MMing :(  Both look like they're still fun in random though.

 

I have 11k doubloons

Kidd = 7735 (from 9100)

Atago = 9095 (from 10700

 

Any suggestions?? Thanks in advanced o7

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Both are excellent. You can't go wrong with either. Atago is a silent hunter with excellent stealth, torps, and HE, but the DPM is a little lacking. Kidd is a capture point bully that is amazing when top tier but lacks the torps to keep up in the tier 10 games you will see all too often. It's close but I'd say Atago and get her right now so you can have this fabulous camo (you need Yamamoto collection for it to look like this but man is it the best 1k doubloons i have spent on this game.)World_of_Warships_Screenshot_2018_08.23_-_17_01.58_08-1.thumb.png.3168c6ce0698b76e755cc533bf570d6a.png Okay maybe don't buy the ship based off of the camo, pick the one you think you will play more. I have both, I like both. 

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You are up at the top of the US DD line and the IJN CL/CA line. I would say that Atago would be more forgiving with it's heal and you can use it as the 203mm Mogami and make your Mogami a 155mm boat. Kidd has great AA, but only 1 set of torps.

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I don't have the Kidd but I can back up the others that the Atago is an excellent ship. The guns are a shorter range than I would like but they hit very hard and are accurate. The ship itself has good concealment and is maneuverable enough to get into position and angled well her hull seemed pretty decent too. I'm only an average player but in the last two ranked seasons I found her a really useful and capable ship. Easily one of my best premiums.   

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Atago all the way.

 

Some people like the Kidd, but honestly at its tier its not the top dawg. A LoYang will school it everytime in a capture point regardless of the repair party consumable, and it's more geared towards AA. Which is kinda useless at the moment. But it's just my opinion.

 

The Atago however is a beautiful cruiser. Stealthy, Tanky. Deadly. And it has the sexiest camo in game... :)

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Atago is by far the easier ship to play, and she's competitive even when bottom tier. Kidd is good but you have to have a basically dedicated captain for her, where as atagos captain works perfectly with zao.

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You guys are awesome. Sounds like most are leaning to the Atago. I think she's a gorgeous ship as well. Might be the choice right now...Good point about the AA being a selling point but until the CV rework comes I'm not sure how valuable it'll be.

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1 minute ago, Daniel__Plainview said:

Might be the choice right now

If I was you, I would chip in a bit more and get both

Save me the feeling of regret again and again and again. Both ships are equally fun, and if you do so, it is consider better as you are also funding the game developer to make the game better.

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1 hour ago, ElectroVeeDub said:

Atago all the way.

 

Some people like the Kidd, but honestly at its tier its not the top dawg. A LoYang will school it everytime in a capture point regardless of the repair party consumable, and it's more geared towards AA. Which is kinda useless at the moment. But it's just my opinion.

 

The Atago however is a beautiful cruiser. Stealthy, Tanky. Deadly. And it has the sexiest camo in game... :)

When it comes to t8 dd cap bullies there is the Kidd and everyone else. LoYang and Akuzuki are great T8 dds and better at every other aspect of dd play, but bidding in smoke with hydro on doesn’t stop the Kidd from charging a LoYang down tanking he spam and dodging torps then delivering a lockout blow. Heal up and cap another. I don’t play kidd in randoms due to her limited usefulness but in ranked my wr is high, and I wreck dds in caps

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3 minutes ago, wstugamd said:

When it comes to t8 dd cap bullies there is the Kidd and everyone else. LoYang and Akuzuki are great T8 dds and better at every other aspect of dd play, but bidding in smoke with hydro on doesn’t stop the Kidd from charging a LoYang down tanking he spam and dodging torps then delivering a lockout blow. Heal up and cap another. I don’t play kidd in randoms due to her limited usefulness but in ranked my wr is high, and I wreck dds in caps

Then I challenge you to a duel. :)

No hydro = fail cap contester. Your only hope would be to rush the smoke, and hope you don't get deleted by torps. The LoYang was a ranked favorite for good reason.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Daniel__Plainview said:

I completely regretted not getting the Atago during the summer sale and here we are again.

 

But the Kidd looks amazing because A) my grandpa served on the USS Bryant (Fletcher class) and B) it's a great ship and can be used competitively. Both are on sale and I would love help deciding. I like to play both classes and understand the T8 MMing :(  Both look like they're still fun in random though.

 

I have 11k doubloons

Kidd = 7735 (from 9100)

Atago = 9095 (from 10700

 

Any suggestions?? Thanks in advanced o7

Go with Atago. Kidd is a one trick pony. If there isn't a cv, which there seldom is, that AA is useless, and one rack of slow loading, slow moving torps just doesn't cut it. The heal sounds nice, but in practice it doesn't do much for you unless you back off to a nice quiet spot to heal, meanwhile the other guys take that cap you were going to contest.

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11 minutes ago, ElectroVeeDub said:

Then I challenge you to a duel. :)

No hydro = fail cap contester. Your only hope would be to rush the smoke, and hope you don't get deleted by torps. The LoYang was a ranked favorite for good reason.

Yup. No contest. Kidd dies 9 times out of 10 vs a Lo Yang. With only a single torp launcher and no hydro, it just can't compete. Especially if the Yang has any backup. Those heals are nice, but you have to live to use them and even then you have to wait for the cooldown on each one.

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9 hours ago, ElectroVeeDub said:

Then I challenge you to a duel. :)

No hydro = fail cap contester. Your only hope would be to rush the smoke, and hope you don't get deleted by torps. The LoYang was a ranked favorite for good reason.

 

 

I accept.

Dodging torps is essential. That the only times I have been sent to port early in a game, but with RDF I tend to keep her pointed in the right direction. I out gun and out HP everything else. Kidd is simply OP at capping. Very mediocre after that.

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Atago is a better choice for the less skilled player had many games play out both good and bad. I used to be quite good at playing her and now I am out of practice.

Kidd is best in experienced hands had a game in season 9 in ranked while I wiped the floor with two enemy dd's and a cruiser when I was half health in the Kidd.

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11 hours ago, ElectroVeeDub said:

A LoYang will school it everytime in a capture point regardless of the repair party consumable

Why do you say that? Kidd has another turret, much more HP, and the heal. The only way a LoYang could win is if he landed torps, or the Kidd was oblivious and let the LoYang sneak up. 

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Atago all the way.  I have had mine since long before heal.

 

When maxxed, it has ridiculous stats.   9.1 detect.  10 km torps x 16.  37.4 knots with speed flag makes it 1/2 a knot slower than a boosted Mahan without a speed flag. durrr.  8 inch guns that whap with HE.  With rudder upgrade is turns harder than some DDs.  It's throttle response is very good. 

It has a citadel the size of two barn doors. If you get broadside, you will vaporize. Not sink... vaporize. It has cr@p AAA for its tier. Its AP is not really worth it except for certain situations, and is still a crapshoot. If a CV takes an interest, you are done. You have turn broadside to someone when under air attack, and that's the ball game.

It rules island groups if it can get in unspotted. In open water, if you can her in front of a battle line you can lay 16 torps into them without ever being seen.

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If you division up with a CV, the Kidd has amazing AA.  Otherwise I would go with the Atago, she's uniquely amazing. 

Edit:  it looks like my stats are a little better with the Atago...

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15 hours ago, Daniel__Plainview said:

I completely regretted not getting the Atago during the summer sale and here we are again.

 

But the Kidd looks amazing because A) my grandpa served on the USS Bryant (Fletcher class) and B) it's a great ship and can be used competitively. Both are on sale and I would love help deciding. I like to play both classes and understand the T8 MMing :(  Both look like they're still fun in random though.

 

I have 11k doubloons

Kidd = 7735 (from 9100)

Atago = 9095 (from 10700

 

Any suggestions?? Thanks in advanced o7

Atago is a lot of fun. Its greatest feat is the ability to do several distinct roles pretty well. It can spam from range, torp ambush up close, escort B.B. on a push and chase away dd.

The guns rof is a little low and the rang is sort of disappointing but the arcs are nice and the HE is excellent. The torps have great arcs, good damage, decent reload and have good range. The ship itself turns well, has great speed and very respectable concealment. The heal is a huge plus and hydro is nice to have depending on the role you choose to play. 

It is squishy and you better be on your toes around B.B. when bottom tier but I like that kind of excitement. Somebody compared it to a zao and although I kinda get where the are coming from I don’t think it’s the best comparison. The zao is FAR superior in every meaningful way even considering tier for tier. I’d say Atago is an upgraded Mogami  and leave it at that.

I have no experience with kidd. Nothing meaningful to say about it.

 

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16 hours ago, Daniel__Plainview said:

I completely regretted not getting the Atago during the summer sale and here we are again.

 

But the Kidd looks amazing because A) my grandpa served on the USS Bryant (Fletcher class) and B) it's a great ship and can be used competitively. Both are on sale and I would love help deciding. I like to play both classes and understand the T8 MMing :(  Both look like they're still fun in random though.

 

I have 11k doubloons

Kidd = 7735 (from 9100)

Atago = 9095 (from 10700

 

Any suggestions?? Thanks in advanced o7

I wrote my thoughts on the Kidd awhile back and have kept it pretty well updated. Take a look and see what you think. I love the Kidd. One of my favorite ships in the game. 

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I'm a cruiser person so I say Atago (and I plan on getting myself this ship in October). 

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