Jump to content
You need to play a total of 5 battles to post in this section.
jags_domain

Idea for planes?

11 comments in this topic

Recommended Posts

139
[1NJS]
Members
424 posts

WG can you change the formation of the planes. You have a v formation but planes dont fly that way. If you make it an inverted V by pitting the point in the front it would be real.

Also with the DB they need to be flyong above 10k feet. And then DB started there attack run they would roll upside down then begin there dive. If you do it your way the piloit would red out.

Thiz will make game play different betweeb DB and TB. As it stands right now they look the same.

Also there has to be nave point for the ship and pmanes. We cant see how I get my plane here or there. We need to be able to send our planes were we won't.

Also I would really like some to type of fighter combat.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3,059
[GWG]
[GWG]
Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters
15,223 posts
8,804 battles

Actually attack formations for torpedo and dive bombers would be line astern, line abreast, and echelon.

  • Cool 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
581
[OPRAH]
[OPRAH]
Beta Testers
3,764 posts
12,470 battles

I sense a wee bit of O C D rivet counting here! This is not a simulation so how bout turn off animate small objects and then there will be only 1 plane displayed and no pesky perceived incorrect V! As for altitude correctness obsession. Use your imagination! The fighter combat you see now is all you are going to get and even less with the rework since fighters will just exist and have no player control.

May I suggest Microsoft Combat Flight Simulators 1, 2 and 3! Rise of Flight, Red Baron, Aces over Europe, Aces over the Pacific. Lucas films Battle of Britain & Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe and many more cockpit point of view real time flyers.  In Combat Flight Simulator 3 I have enjoyed many hours flying a P47 from England to Spain and back! A great way to kill several hours!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
845
[SSG]
Alpha Tester
3,385 posts
7,979 battles
51 minutes ago, jags_domain said:

WG can you change the formation of the planes. You have a v formation but planes dont fly that way. If you make it an inverted V by pitting the point in the front it would be real.

Da_zmtrWsAYsrzt.jpg

P-47's in 1943. IJN used also the "Finger Four" formation that is essentially a smaller V shape. UK and Germany also used this formation. 

51 minutes ago, jags_domain said:

Also with the DB they need to be flyong above 10k feet.

Altitude, range, speed, acceleration, etc are all condensed. What may look like 2000 feet is really 10000 feet.

51 minutes ago, jags_domain said:

And then DB started there attack run they would roll upside down then begin there dive. If you do it your way the piloit would red out.

Also, at last check, the only DB's, aside from maybe the Val as it was of similar design and all, that actually went true inverted were Stuka's, as they would essentially fly past the target slight, roll then pull into the dive. USN did in fact, more or less point the nose at the ground, but not overly sharply. Again, remember time and all is condensed. If you wish, I can link a 1943 USN dive bombing training video, and a video of the introduction of the SB2C dive bomber, making the same such maneuver. There are other video's of aircraft of US construction rolling into the attack, but do not go inverted. 

51 minutes ago, jags_domain said:

Also I would really like some to type of fighter combat.

Tier 4-5 is the simple point and click, 6 introduces strafing, a broken as hell mechanic that deletes planes, with the rework planning to remove all of this.

51 minutes ago, jags_domain said:

Thiz will make game play different betweeb DB and TB. As it stands right now they look the same.

Not sure what your on about as The TB's  start lower, then get the last bit to drop height - which is how they would fly not that low the full way, and DB'sdrop in then fly off, how much more different are you looking for when they behave the way they would have back in the day?

 

edit: also, found this right after posting this closing a tab.

divetac2.jpg

Edited by WanderingGhost

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
110
[WOLF8]
Beta Testers
491 posts
4,271 battles

Dang, I wonder what kind of G's those guys were pulling off at the bottom of thier dive... looks crazy.  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1,309
[FOXEH]
[FOXEH]
Alpha Tester
6,028 posts
9,595 battles

speaking of planes, WG if you see this thread DO NOT add the RNG upgrade thing to WOWS, its horrible in WOWP!:fish_palm:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3,059
[GWG]
[GWG]
Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters
15,223 posts
8,804 battles

The Finger Four is a fighter formation, torpedo and dive bombers seem to have used either the Vic (IJN) or the Diamond (USN) formation for transit and would shake out into their attack formation when they got to the operation area. We definitely need fighters but I don't think they should be player controlled and instead should be broken into CAP to protect the carrier and escort.

10 minutes ago, Madman7 said:

Dang, I wonder what kind of G's those guys were pulling off at the bottom of thier dive... looks crazy.  

The SBD's were stressed for 12 G's and I think the US DB's were pulling 9+ G's during pull out.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
139
[1NJS]
Members
424 posts
55 minutes ago, WanderingGhost said:

Da_zmtrWsAYsrzt.jpg

P-47's in 1943. IJN used also the "Finger Four" formation that is essentially a smaller V shape. UK and Germany also used this formation. 

Altitude, range, speed, acceleration, etc are all condensed. What may look like 2000 feet is really 10000 feet.

Also, at last check, the only DB's, aside from maybe the Val as it was of similar design and all, that actually went true inverted were Stuka's, as they would essentially fly past the target slight, roll then pull into the dive. USN did in fact, more or less point the nose at the ground, but not overly sharply. Again, remember time and all is condensed. If you wish, I can link a 1943 USN dive bombing training video, and a video of the introduction of the SB2C dive bomber, making the same such maneuver. There are other video's of aircraft of US construction rolling into the attack, but do not go inverted. 

Tier 4-5 is the simple point and click, 6 introduces strafing, a broken as hell mechanic that deletes planes, with the rework planning to remove all of this.

Not sure what your on about as The TB's  start lower, then get the last bit to drop height - which is how they would fly not that low the full way, and DB'sdrop in then fly off, how much more different are you looking for when they behave the way they would have back in the day?

 

edit: also, found this right after posting this closing a tab.

divetac2.jpg

The vid would great to watch..  the db and tb look basicly the same. It be great if the db could fly say 10k pluse angles then start the run it would make db very different then a low flying tb.  If they cant make the planes that high then maybe make the ship very small then zoom in as the planes get closer.

At to there formation unless 8 ak missing something what they are showing is not the pic you have. Its opposite from that. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
139
[1NJS]
Members
424 posts
46 minutes ago, Madman7 said:

Dang, I wonder what kind of G's those guys were pulling off at the bottom of thier dive... looks crazy.  

Maybe 7 or 8 i dont know if the plane could take that much

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
845
[SSG]
Alpha Tester
3,385 posts
7,979 battles
3 minutes ago, jags_domain said:

The vid would great to watch..  the db and tb look basicly the same. It be great if the db could fly say 10k pluse angles then start the run it would make db very different then a low flying tb.  If they cant make the planes that high then maybe make the ship very small then zoom in as the planes get closer.

At to there formation unless 8 ak missing something what they are showing is not the pic you have. Its opposite from that. 

I don't feel like opening the game again and playing a CV to see what variation of V formation they are flying, If it isn't what's in that picture, which I might as is a flying V, then I'm guessing it's a 6 plane modification of the Finger 4, with an extra 2 planes to one side as they were setup to fight in pairs, or 2 elements in smaller triangles, if you are in game playing one and can take a pic (or someone else in this thread find one), I got nothing till I decide to log back in. Which will be a while cause no drive after the last rant I just typed up on the rework. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
581
[OPRAH]
[OPRAH]
Beta Testers
3,764 posts
12,470 battles

@WanderingGhost He wants Cockpit PoV flight sim play for the planes! O C D much!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

×