174 Fog_Cruiser_Tone Members 813 posts Report post #1 Posted March 2, 2015 I do not play WoT or WoWP, and wasn't around for either's launch... so I have a question: when the game begins, how do the pre-order packages and premium items work? Like, what -- generally -- do packages come with? And how do premiums work... if you buy a premium T5, do you just get to jump into T5 right away? (Fighting, I would assume, almost exclusively against other people who bought that same ship because nobody else has ground their way up to that tier)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,548 [EPOXY] Tedster_ Wiki Editor, Members, Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters, Beta Testers 5,899 posts 13,624 battles Report post #2 Posted March 2, 2015 in those games, there were three packages. a cheap package, a medium package, and an expensive package. each contained a different vehicle, and varying amounts of gold/prem time to fill out the rest of the price. as for MM, you had stuff like this for a while in WoT. there is a reason that the WoWP preorders topped out at T5: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,661 Macabe Alpha Tester, Members, In AlfaTesters, Beta Testers 12,413 posts Report post #3 Posted March 2, 2015 Expect 3 packages. In terms of ships: Destroyer package: probably around $20-$25 tier 3/4 Cruiser package: ~$40-60 tier 5/6 Battleship: ~ $70-80 tier 8 warplanes was missing the tier 8 bit If it's anything like WoWP/WoT packages, it'll look similar to that. Premiums give you 1.5x the credits and exp that a regular ship/tank/plane would normally give per battle. They're exceptionally good at credit, free xp, and crew skill grinding. Also.you can put the crew from a different vehicle into the premium vehicle without penalty to performance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,548 [EPOXY] Tedster_ Wiki Editor, Members, Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters, Beta Testers 5,899 posts 13,624 battles Report post #4 Posted March 2, 2015 after the WoT launch MM, I doubt we will ever see a T8 prem preorder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,661 Macabe Alpha Tester, Members, In AlfaTesters, Beta Testers 12,413 posts Report post #5 Posted March 2, 2015 after the WoT launch MM, I doubt we will ever see a T8 prem preorder. That lasted for almost 2 months, i remember that and i registered 2 weeks after. It had the 4/5 tier matchmaking. It was bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
174 Fog_Cruiser_Tone Members 813 posts Report post #6 Posted March 2, 2015 So if you buy, say, the cruiser package, and you now have a ship at T5, can you begin working towards T6? Or do you have to earn tiers 1-4 first, and only then can you progress higher? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,548 [EPOXY] Tedster_ Wiki Editor, Members, Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters, Beta Testers 5,899 posts 13,624 battles Report post #7 Posted March 2, 2015 So if you buy, say, the cruiser package, and you now have a ship at T5, can you begin working towards T6? Or do you have to earn tiers 1-4 first, and only then can you progress higher? the way tech trees work, experience earned on premiums can be converted with IRL money currency to research stuff on other lines. each vehicle is part of a line, and xp earned on each one is used to research the next vehicle. premiums also earn additional money which you use to buy the vehicles themselves along with repairing them and rearming them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,661 Macabe Alpha Tester, Members, In AlfaTesters, Beta Testers 12,413 posts Report post #8 Posted March 2, 2015 (edited) So if you buy, say, the cruiser package, and you now have a ship at T5, can you begin working towards T6? Or do you have to earn tiers 1-4 first, and only then can you progress higher? It's a standalone object completely unrelated to your tier progression. You'd still being going tier 1->2->3 and so on for whatever line you choose. You can take the experience you earn in that ship and convert it to free experience which is usable to research anything that is next in the line. Ted is a ninja... Edited March 2, 2015 by Macabe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
663 Khovax Alpha Tester 1,440 posts 2,164 battles Report post #9 Posted March 2, 2015 if you upgraded you account to a premium account you will receive an enhanced income and experience gain. Also premium vehicles are vehicles that you can buy with real money (unless they are a gift vehicle) and they enjoy an enhanced income and a reduced repair cost. premium vehicles stand alone on the tech tree, don't research in to anything cant be researched in to... you just buy them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
174 Fog_Cruiser_Tone Members 813 posts Report post #10 Posted March 2, 2015 Can you pay a subscription for WG's games in order to simply offset the micro-transaction elements? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,661 Macabe Alpha Tester, Members, In AlfaTesters, Beta Testers 12,413 posts Report post #11 Posted March 2, 2015 (edited) Can you pay a subscription for WG's games in order to simply offset the micro-transaction elements? No. You can pay for say 6 months of premium time and that will give you 1.5x the credits and xp from all battles but i don't think that's what you were asking or was it? Have you ever played WT? It's like that. They essentially copied WG's model. Edited March 2, 2015 by Macabe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,548 [EPOXY] Tedster_ Wiki Editor, Members, Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters, Beta Testers 5,899 posts 13,624 battles Report post #12 Posted March 2, 2015 Can you pay a subscription for WG's games in order to simply offset the micro-transaction elements? yes you can. you can buy premium account which gives everything +50% credit and xp gen rates, meaning you can make money in even the highest level vehicles in the game, and high tier premiums make even more money. WG's system is one of the best IMO, as it is a time vs money system, meaning you can get almost every ingame advantage you can buy with IRL money by expending time grinding credits or xp in mid level vehicles. "premium" vehicles are actually (usually) underpowered compared to same-tier vehicles, but earn far more money or xp. for example, at tier 8 in tanks, a regular tank may earn 50k+ credits on a good game, but a premium tank can earn 150k+ credits for a similar performance game. Have you ever played WT? It's like that. They essentially copied WG's model. except with more P2W Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
174 Fog_Cruiser_Tone Members 813 posts Report post #13 Posted March 2, 2015 No. You can pay for say 6 months of premium time and that will give you 1.5x the credits and xp from all battles but i don't think that's what you were asking or was it? I dunno, heh. I don't like microtransactions... and I would like to avoid them if possible. But if I'm going to have to pay to transfer the experience off a premium ship (that I get through a preorder package), than I was wondering if there was some kind of sub I could pay to avoid that. If not, I'm not sure why I'd want the premium ship... even if it's cool... if I have to pay extra to make it useful. Please forgive my newness to all this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
174 Fog_Cruiser_Tone Members 813 posts Report post #14 Posted March 2, 2015 yes you can. you can buy premium account which gives everything +50% credit and xp gen rates, meaning you can make money in even the highest level vehicles in the game, and high tier premiums make even more money. WG's system is one of the best IMO, as it is a time vs money system, meaning you can get almost every ingame advantage you can buy with IRL money by expending time grinding credits or xp in mid level vehicles. "premium" vehicles are actually (usually) underpowered compared to same-tier vehicles, but earn far more money or xp. for example, at tier 8 in tanks, a regular tank may earn 50k+ credits on a good game, but a premium tank can earn 150k+ credits for a similar performance game. except with more P2W What do the premium accounts cost? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
663 Khovax Alpha Tester 1,440 posts 2,164 battles Report post #15 Posted March 2, 2015 I dunno, heh. I don't like microtransactions... and I would like to avoid them if possible. But if I'm going to have to pay to transfer the experience off a premium ship (that I get through a preorder package), than I was wondering if there was some kind of sub I could pay to avoid that. If not, I'm not sure why I'd want the premium ship... even if it's cool... if I have to pay extra to make it useful. Please forgive my newness to all this. affraid not... Micro transaction is the name of the game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,661 Macabe Alpha Tester, Members, In AlfaTesters, Beta Testers 12,413 posts Report post #16 Posted March 2, 2015 (edited) What do the premium accounts cost? 250 gold for a day, 650 for a week. Or you can buy it straight from the gift shop. Will post link in a moment. https://na.wargaming.net/shop/wot/premium/ Edited March 2, 2015 by Macabe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
174 Fog_Cruiser_Tone Members 813 posts Report post #17 Posted March 2, 2015 $12.59/month isn't too bad. That's less than I had to pay for WoW at least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
31 Lisfield Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters 190 posts 7,826 battles Report post #18 Posted March 2, 2015 Ted and macabe nailed it. I would like to make a footnote that Wargaming tends to sell special packages at weekend or in big festivals, spend your money wisely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,548 [EPOXY] Tedster_ Wiki Editor, Members, Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters, Beta Testers 5,899 posts 13,624 battles Report post #19 Posted March 2, 2015 I dunno, heh. I don't like microtransactions... and I would like to avoid them if possible. But if I'm going to have to pay to transfer the experience off a premium ship (that I get through a preorder package), than I was wondering if there was some kind of sub I could pay to avoid that. If not, I'm not sure why I'd want the premium ship... even if it's cool... if I have to pay extra to make it useful. Please forgive my newness to all this. how it works is you buy a "premium currency" in bulk, which you spend on the other stuff, or you can buy right from the gift shop. 250 gold for a day, 650 for a week. Or you can buy it straight from the gift shop. Will post link in a moment. https://na.wargaming.net/shop/wot/premium/ if you buy in longer stretches it gets better. 24000 gold ($100 with 1k gold left over) for one year, bringing the cost under $10/month. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
181 [DERE] Flamadiddle Beta Testers 539 posts 983 battles Report post #20 Posted March 2, 2015 I dunno, heh. I don't like microtransactions... and I would like to avoid them if possible. But if I'm going to have to pay to transfer the experience off a premium ship (that I get through a preorder package), than I was wondering if there was some kind of sub I could pay to avoid that. If not, I'm not sure why I'd want the premium ship... even if it's cool... if I have to pay extra to make it useful. Please forgive my newness to all this. If you don't want to pool up EXP in a ship that can't level like a premium, then there will be a little box that you can check called 'accelerate crew training'. This will speed up crew training at the cost of not building up any ship exp, only crew and free exp. Premiums also make good crew trainers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
54 DracoArgentum Alpha Tester 149 posts 89 battles Report post #21 Posted March 2, 2015 Also in WoT most stuff goes on 50% sale, I'd expect that to carry over to WoWS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
41 Fog_Battleship_H44 Beta Testers 881 posts Report post #22 Posted March 2, 2015 Expect 3 packages. In terms of ships: Destroyer package: probably around $20-$25 tier 3/4 Cruiser package: ~$40-60 tier 5/6 Battleship: ~ $70-80 tier 8 warplanes was missing the tier 8 bit If it's anything like WoWP/WoT packages, it'll look similar to that. Premiums give you 1.5x the credits and exp that a regular ship/tank/plane would normally give per battle. They're exceptionally good at credit, free xp, and crew skill grinding. Also.you can put the crew from a different vehicle into the premium vehicle without penalty to performance. why battleship package so pricy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3 [HMCS] Hunter_D_ [HMCS] Beta Testers 16 posts 12,648 battles Report post #23 Posted March 2, 2015 I hope they have a carrier package as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,929 _Sarcasticat_ Beta Testers 19,049 posts 8,131 battles Report post #24 Posted March 2, 2015 I can't wait to see some of the German prems! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
52 EAGLESQUAD1 Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters 424 posts 1,878 battles Report post #25 Posted March 2, 2015 There is also 2 types of in-game money. There is credits that you earn from doing battles and there is gold which is bought with real money in WoT. They tend to do sales on their shop packages on holidays and special days. I use my premiums in WoT to grind credits and train crews. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
