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The Channel Dash: Scharnhorst & Gneisenau

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The destroyer Richard Beitzen can be seen. In the wake of the destroyer the Scharnhorst followed by the Gneisenau.

 

For those of you have have both like myself, or have tried both, which is your favourite and why, or are you decided? If WG had not decided to apply some historical liberty with the guns, would it make a difference?

I love the Scharnhorst but a good game in the Gneisenau is just as sweet.

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11 February 1942

On this day, the German battleships Gneisenau and Scharnhorst, as well as the heavy cruiser Prinz Eugen, escape from the French port of Brest and make a mad dash up the English Channel to safety in German waters.

The Gneisenau and Scharnhorst had been anchored at Brest since March 1941. The Prinz Eugen had been tied to the French port since the Bismarck sortie in May 1941, when it and the battleship Bismarck made their own mad dash through the Atlantic and the Denmark Strait to elude Royal Navy gunfire. All three were subject to periodic bombing raids–and damage–by the British, as the Brits attempted to ensure that the German warships never left the French coast. But despite the careful watch of British subs and aircraft, German Vice Admiral Otto Ciliax launched Operation Cerberus to lead the ships out of the French port.

The Germans, who had controlled and occupied France since June 1940, drew British fire deliberately, and the Gneisenau, Scharnhorst, and Prinz Eugen used the resulting skirmish as a defensive smoke screen. Six German destroyers and 21 torpedo boats accompanied the ships for protection as they moved north late on the night of February 11.

In the morning, German planes provided air cover as well; ace pilot Adolf Galland led 250 other fighters in an unusually well coordinated joint effort of the German navy and Luftwaffe. The British Royal Air Force also coordinated its attack with the Royal Navy Swordfish squadron, but a late start–the RAF did not realize until the afternoon of February 12 that the German squadron had pushed out to sea–and bad weather hindered their effort. All three German warships made it to a German port on February 13, although the Gneisenau and Scharnhorst had been damaged by British mines along the way.

The British lost 40 aircraft and six Navy Swordfish in the confrontation, while the Germans lost a torpedo boat and 17 aircraft. The “Channel Dash,” as it came to be called, was extremely embarrassing to the British, as it happened right under their noses. They would get revenge of a sort, though: British warships sunk the Scharnhorst in December 1944 as the German ship attempted to attack a Russian convoy. The Gneisenau was destroyed in a bombing raid while still in port undergoing repairs, and the Prinz Eugen survived the war, but was taken over by the U.S. Navy at war’s end.

from: https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/the-channel-dash

 

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The German battleships Scharnhorst and Gneisenau together in 1939.

 

 

 

 

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I own Scharn and just got Gneisenau. Played the latter on the Test Server, and I LOVE those longer caliber 15 inch guns than Bayern. They pack SO much more damage and penetration!

 

Scharnhorst is fun for when I'm craving a historical ship in all it's historical glory in port, but I'm not quite as good with her.

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Gniesenau.

Because I managed to stalk up on a NC with spotting help and a tiny little piece of rock and devastate the poor sod.

Scharny...? Never even come close to managing to do something like that... Just don't get it; apparently.

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"Wars are not won by evacuations. But there was a victory inside this deliverance, which should be noted. "   Winston Churchill

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Surprise is a HUGE thing in war. Huge. 

Washington at Trenton, Rev War

Japanese Pearl Harbor 

German attack on Russia in June 1941

Stonewall Jackson at Chancellorsville in May 1863

I could go on and on...etc. blah blah 

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1 hour ago, legoboy0401 said:

I own Scharn and just got Gneisenau. Played the latter on the Test Server, and I LOVE those longer caliber 15 inch guns than Bayern. They pack SO much more damage and penetration!

 

Scharnhorst is fun for when I'm craving a historical ship in all it's historical glory in port, but I'm not quite as good with her.

Scharn....gotta get close....then she is deadly. NO Sniper....no. Inside 5k she will kill any ship in the game. It's those torps...BB killer. 

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1 hour ago, dmckay said:

Stonewall Jackson at Chancellorsville in May 1863

"Let us cross the river and rest in the shade of that tree."

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55 minutes ago, dmckay said:

Scharn....gotta get close....then she is deadly. NO Sniper....no. Inside 5k she will kill any ship in the game. It's those torps...BB killer. 

Who said I like sniping in Scharnhorst? I've started playing her as a super-heavy cruiser(she dies quickly when she tries to push and gets focused by HE-spamming cruisers, blame IFHE) and I try to be around anywhere from 9-12 km away, nothing anywhere near her max range. IMO, her max range should be reduced, because the top 2 km of her range are pretty much useless.

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    I like them both, Gneis has that top notch AA and has heavier guns for alpha strike. Scharn has good DPM and eats cruisers faces like its on bath salts. Both are great ships and fun to play and both play differently.

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I like both, both have permanent spots in my port, but I prefer Scharnhorst over Gneisenau. The change in guns and secondary battery really changes how the ships feel and play.

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13 minutes ago, Lert said:

I like both, both have permanent spots in my port, but I prefer Scharnhorst over Gneisenau. The change in guns and secondary battery really changes how the ships feel and play.

I'm sure you and LWM make a deadly duo.

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